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Invisibleredgreenvines
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Re: Is AI art truly creative? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 2
    #28626429 - 01/18/24 08:02 PM (9 days, 17 hours ago)

there is a lot of consistency to the works you are showing and generally they are flamingorgeous.

I did a few related to my brain theory stuff


They did not really express what I meant to express, but I did not spend that much time with it.

In any case just as photography provides art when a photographer is present and asks "what will it look like if I frame it like this and click NOW!?" the same what would it look like process is going on in the AI artist's creative process, although the tool is not bending light to film or sensors, he is bending ideas and pixels to a screen. It's still art.

As to whether it stands the test of time. well. NFT's are a rage right now.
I like my hand drawn and painted paintings more than anything I have done with AI.
But I think I am weirder than you and most people.







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Re: Is AI art truly creative? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #28627972 - 01/19/24 11:58 PM (8 days, 13 hours ago)

I think AI art is helpful for contextualising complicated or lengthy discussions, to kind of encapsulate the theme of a discussion, sometimes better than others, but with a little jiggling, generally quite capable.


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Re: Is AI art truly creative? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28628237 - 01/20/24 07:53 AM (8 days, 5 hours ago)

Cuteness + psychedelia =



While the basic image we have all seen before, the textures and interplay of colors breathe new life into it.


To counterbalance all that cuteness, here is a much more original image. A simulated oil painting of a battle-weary Samurai.



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Re: Is AI art truly creative? [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28628472 - 01/20/24 11:51 AM (8 days, 2 hours ago)

I read a paper recently about "Centaurs" and "Cyborgs"

Centaurs, the paper claimed, are a style of AI user which has a clear delineation between the human-oriented task, and the AI oriented task. Centaurs tend to use their human expertise where it fits the best, and AI expertise where it fits the best. But there is next to no overlap. If they use AI, they let AI do the work and don't interfere. If they use their expertise, they don't augment it with AI. Cyborgs by contrast tend to have no clear delineation. The mix and mingle between AI tech and their expertise has no clear delineations.

I think this is kind of interesting in terms of AI art. Some may use it as a brainstorming point and then take their skill into the world. This image sums that up to me. This is an AI generated sculpture. But for someone who enjoys sculpting, it may be inspiration to create the physical form itself.



I think there are use cases where ChatGPT writes the majority of a prompt. This is much closer to a cyborg approach. Initial thought mixed with AI assistance to create a blended product. Then using that blended product to create an AI art generation.

All in all, I think it's interesting to ponder the way AI is integrating with humanity. I'm not sure I would classify all uses as artistic, but who am I to judge? I see most lay-people generating naked women. Is that art? I don't think there is much forethought, creativity, or direction.

Personally I find the leading edge to be where the most creativity happens, and it is that creativity which keeps me engaged with the medium. Which came first, the chicken or the egg?





AI upscalers are interesting too. The way they can not only increase the resolution, but in so doing, add details that were not in the original generation. There isn't much artistic control in this process, even if the resulting image has new qualities. But having the knowledge to apply an upscaler is born from playing with the medium. So it's quite cyborgy from the jump I think.


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Re: Is AI art truly creative? [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #28628912 - 01/20/24 05:29 PM (7 days, 20 hours ago)

We Are Safe:





Africa - Genesis of Humanity



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