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Snowmageddon 2024 * 7
    #28625568 - 01/18/24 06:45 AM (10 days, 8 hours ago)



Anyone else been getting walloped with snow this week? We have got between 20-40cm daily since Sunday. This is the view out my back window. I cleared the gazebo roof off two days ago. I love the snow but this is getting insane.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28625643 - 01/18/24 08:08 AM (10 days, 6 hours ago)

Total this year we have gotten 3-4 inches.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: vandago]
    #28625646 - 01/18/24 08:12 AM (10 days, 6 hours ago)

Here we got dumped on too, yesterday.  Not as badly, but still enough to make going outside a pain in the butt.

Im still going outside though.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 7
    #28625662 - 01/18/24 08:33 AM (10 days, 6 hours ago)



Just finished plowing and shoveling the property. Have to also keep the pee and poop express way clear.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke] * 1
    #28625664 - 01/18/24 08:34 AM (10 days, 6 hours ago)

Yeah we are in like the 4 inch range but with more coming tonight, they are saying up to 6. The zub zero temps were more annoying.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus] * 2
    #28625707 - 01/18/24 09:24 AM (10 days, 5 hours ago)

When I look at these Pics it makes me glad I live in Hawaii.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: JonBongGroovy]
    #28625708 - 01/18/24 09:29 AM (10 days, 5 hours ago)

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When I look at these Pics it makes me glad I live in Hawaii.



But you can't easily get to all the other states.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28625709 - 01/18/24 09:31 AM (10 days, 5 hours ago)

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When I look at these Pics it makes me glad I live in Hawaii.



But you can't easily get to all the other states.



I'd be flying anyway if they weren't in the neighbor state area.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28625711 - 01/18/24 09:34 AM (10 days, 5 hours ago)

We got dumped on in the last 48 hours and are expecting more.
Not a lot. Few inches


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: loladoreen]
    #28625741 - 01/18/24 10:13 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: christopera]
    #28625746 - 01/18/24 10:21 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

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I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28625784 - 01/18/24 10:54 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

Kids and snow days are difficult.
Our job is only appealing to them when they are not there!!!! LOL
We have a daycare they can go to when snow happens, but sometimes it closes also.
It is definately very challenging.
Sometimes they can go to a friends house, if you trust them.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: loladoreen]
    #28625800 - 01/18/24 11:07 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

It’s finally above freezing here. Longest sub freezing stretch in a decade according to the weather guy. Four days 🤣


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: loladoreen]
    #28625802 - 01/18/24 11:07 AM (10 days, 4 hours ago)

We do play dates with my kid and my neighbor's kids occasionally on snow days. The problem is I run a medium size high end car garage and there is no working from home for that. You can't work on cars that aren't in front of you, and you don't get paid if you don't put in hours.

She is a good mom to be honest. She sees our son often. Things just didn't go the right way for her. I try to take care of her despite the circumstances. Life can be hard...


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: christopera]
    #28625832 - 01/18/24 11:40 AM (10 days, 3 hours ago)

I love the snow I'm a snowmobiler and love the outdoors in the winter. This was just a lot all at once ha ha


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28625862 - 01/18/24 12:09 PM (10 days, 2 hours ago)

I’ve been hiding from the snow down in Mexico this whole time.

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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: SARAtonin]
    #28625919 - 01/18/24 01:18 PM (10 days, 1 hour ago)

Nice photos I like the snow :grin:

It's really warm here and I've just been bicycling up the mountain. Eating calabrese tangerines

I'm from Ontario and will probably be returning into some snow. Love walking around in it


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus] * 4
    #28625972 - 01/18/24 02:14 PM (10 days, 53 minutes ago)

That is a fat stack of pow!  Man, I'd kill for some snow.  Last year at Mt Baldy (hours drive from Los Angeles) was ridiculously killer!  Powder for days and no one around. This year though's a pittance on the west coast for the slopes.

Suppose I shouldn't really be complainin'... :biggrin:

   


I'll be out in Utah skiing Park City first week of February.  Hope they get a little more action between now and then, but near term forecast shows slightly above average temps across most of the nation. :bored:


Deeez is what's I want! :yesnod:

   
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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Purple sunset]
    #28626052 - 01/18/24 03:21 PM (9 days, 23 hours ago)

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Nice photos I like the snow :grin:

It's really warm here and I've just been bicycling up the mountain. Eating calabrese tangerines

I'm from Ontario and will probably be returning into some snow. Love walking around in it




I live in Ontario, this is where the snow is ha ha! A good portion of the province got a dumping so depending where you live you definitely will be returning to some white stuff!


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: geokills]
    #28626055 - 01/18/24 03:22 PM (9 days, 23 hours ago)

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That is a fat stack of pow!  Man, I'd kill for some snow.  Last year at Mt Baldy (hours drive from Los Angeles) was ridiculously killer!  Powder for days and no one around. This year though's a pittance on the west coast for the slopes.

Suppose I shouldn't really be complainin'... :biggrin:

   


I'll be out in Utah skiing Park City first week of February.  Hope they get a little more action between now and then, but near term forecast shows slightly above average temps across most of the nation. :bored:


Deeez is what's I want! :yesnod:

   
    Mt Baldy last season, waiting for Chair 3 to open :tongue2:





I want to go-to Park City to snowmobile. Hit the mountains and shred the gnar ha ha! Park City is definitely a bucket list destination for me


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus] * 3
    #28626701 - 01/19/24 03:15 AM (9 days, 11 hours ago)

GOOD LORD!

:holyfuckdude: :whattefuck2:
That is a lot of Fuukin' snow! :lol:

We got some snow in Oregon too. In my area, we got a good 3-4 inches, which is somewhat rare for this area, especially in January.









I wanted to hit my bong but it was frozen! Grrrrr!



My favorite part was playing with my 4x4 R/C Truck. Wish I had a spare battery!







Then it rained and make it extra-slick. Scary to walk on but it sure was cool-looking:





On the last day of the storm, it rained again as the temperatures warmed up and it left this spooky white fog-mist in the air. Earlier in the week, I was reading The Well of Ascension, a Mistborn series book, so this weather was really trippy to see in person:


It was quite the storm. So many weather patterns came thru, one after another. Mother Nature on a whirlwind of emotions.


A beautiful, unexpected, surreal Winter Wonderland.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28626788 - 01/19/24 06:44 AM (9 days, 8 hours ago)

Bong rippin and RC car driftin! Looks fun!


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28626791 - 01/19/24 06:48 AM (9 days, 8 hours ago)

Woke up to less than an inch. Booo!


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626822 - 01/19/24 07:40 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.




That's interesting in a "wow what a fucking idiot" way


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626829 - 01/19/24 07:47 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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christopera said:
I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.




That's interesting in a "wow what a fucking idiot" way




There is no need to be a dipshit just because someone said something that you disagree with.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626839 - 01/19/24 07:54 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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christopera said:
I am super into getting snow. It's been a pain as a single parent though. Today is the only day he's gone to school. I took him to work with me yesterday, but he only has so much patience for sitting in an office while I work. With 6 inches of snow coming, there's a good chance they will cancel tomorrow too. Which has used up the full allotment of snow days with several months worth of potential snowy weather to come. My kids school district has 20k kids, and when things get iffy, they just cancel the day. What a pain.

:huxleyfacepalm:



That does suck.  And if your ex-wife was around, she would probably be able to care for your son while you were at work.

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your divorce, but it just seems it would have been better for your child if you were still together.  I feel that having two parents is the minimum for rearing a child right.  If the government made a law tomorrow that heavily restricted divorces when children are involved, I wouldn't complain.




That's interesting in a "wow what a fucking idiot" way




There is no need to be a dipshit just because someone said something that you disagree with.




Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626848 - 01/19/24 08:00 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

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Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.




You didn't have to insult me to get your point across.  If you think my idea is bad, attack my idea, not me.  First you call me a fucking idiot and now you say I am narcisstic.  You need to apologize to me.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: geokills] * 1
    #28626849 - 01/19/24 08:03 AM (9 days, 7 hours ago)

When i see photos like yours I immediately think "that would be a great cover image for a book!"

Logical_Chaos has great ones too.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626872 - 01/19/24 08:30 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:

Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.




You didn't have to insult me to get your point across.  If you think my idea is bad, attack my idea, not me.  First you call me a fucking idiot and now you say I am narcisstic.  You need to apologize to me.




Yeah except that I don't though, actually.

I will acquiesce to your request though, and call your idea fucking stupid.

Your idea is profoundly and irrecoverably stupid, foolish, and shortsighted in the extreme, as well as being both insanely dumb and also sillier than a sockful of sapsuckers.   


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626873 - 01/19/24 08:31 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:

Sorry, I just can't fathom the narcissism it takes to think you know what's best for someone else's relationship, despite being fully transparent about knowing nothing about it.




You didn't have to insult me to get your point across.  If you think my idea is bad, attack my idea, not me.  First you call me a fucking idiot and now you say I am narcisstic.  You need to apologize to me.




Yeah except that I don't though, actually.




You don't think you need to apologize to people for calling them a fucking idiot?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626877 - 01/19/24 08:33 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Who would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626878 - 01/19/24 08:35 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Who would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




You don't know its bad to call people a fucking idiot?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626880 - 01/19/24 08:36 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #28626881 - 01/19/24 08:38 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




I see, so you are too ill-bred to know that it's bad to call people a fucking idiot.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Joh.Ke]
    #28626882 - 01/19/24 08:39 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

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Joh.Ke said:
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Ima Trooper said:
Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




I see, so you are too ill-bred to know that it's bad to call people a fucking idiot.




Why is it bad? If I see a red car, I'll say "Look at that red car". If I see a fucking idiot, I'll say "wow, look at that fucking idiot."

Is it bad to call a red car, red?


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Oops, I meant to say "why" and mistyped.

Why would I say I'm sorry if I'm not at all?




I see, so you are too ill-bred to know that it's bad to call people a fucking idiot.




Why is it bad? If I see a red car, I'll say "Look at that red car". If I see a fucking idiot, I'll say "wow, look at that fucking idiot."

Is it bad to call a red car, red?




Then you need to prove that I am objectively a fucking idiot.  Chances are, I say something you disagree with, however you are too stupid to articulate why you dislike my idea, so instead you just attack me personally.


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    #28626891 - 01/19/24 08:52 AM (9 days, 6 hours ago)

Hmm, ok.

Your idea that government should make it more difficult for married people with children to get divorced is idiotic because that would only make people who already hate each other stay together. Children form their ideas of what a good relationship is by observing the relationships closest to them, and there is none closer than their parents. Them normalizing the relationship of two people who basically hate each other but are forced to stay together by government decree will lead them to have a profoundly wrong idea of what a good relationship should look like, leading to even more fucked up relationships (likely with children) who continue the cycle of trauma, anger, and sadness.

Also it's a massive governmental overreach in general.

So that's why your idea is fucking idiotic.


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Hmm, ok.

Your idea that government should make it more difficult for married people with children to get divorced is idiotic because that would only make people who already hate each other stay together. Children form their ideas of what a good relationship is by observing the relationships closest to them, and there is none closer than their parents. Them normalizing the relationship of two people who basically hate each other but are forced to stay together by government decree will lead them to have a profoundly wrong idea of what a good relationship should look like, leading to even more fucked up relationships (likely with children) who continue the cycle of trauma, anger, and sadness.

Also it's a massive governmental overreach in general.

So that's why your idea is fucking idiotic.



Thank you for expounding.

As for why I suggested such an idea: you know how sometimes the wife (usually it's the woman, but can sometimes be the man) just says she is "not happy in the marriage", or cites any such frivolous reasons as the grounds for initiating a divorce, which breaks apart an otherwise OK marriage.  Mainly I want to prevent this from happening because I feel that the welfare of the children should come ahead of the parents' happiness, unless there is something serious going on like abuse or infidelity.  But I think you have a point too.  And I think we would need to sit down at a table and hash something out that can adequately address the issue I mentioned above, while not forcing two people who hate each other, to stay together.

You mentioned government overreach, and yes I agree what I suggested would indeed be one instance of such overreach.  However, the thing is, the government already reaches into quite a few aspects of our lives, forcing us to do things we don't want to do.  One example: laws concerning child abandonment.  The government is essentially saying that parents have to rear their child.  When you think about it, this is forcing people to do what they don't want to do, and constitutes a violation of their bodily freedom.  But guess what?  Most of us agree that such a law is reasonable.  So this tells me that there are instances where the government can compel people to do things against their wish, as long as there is something more important at stake, namely, the welfare of a child.  And we just need to extend this line of reasoning to divorces.  Yes to force an unhappy wife to stay in her marriage is encroaching on her freedom and bodily autonomy.  However, it is for the welfare of the children in said marriage, which trumps all, as we found earlier.  And since we already established a precedent where the government can make parents do things against their wish, this is why I feel that we can make them do what they don't want to do in yet another area.


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Hmm, ok.

Your idea that government should make it more difficult for married people with children to get divorced is idiotic because that would only make people who already hate each other stay together. Children form their ideas of what a good relationship is by observing the relationships closest to them, and there is none closer than their parents. Them normalizing the relationship of two people who basically hate each other but are forced to stay together by government decree will lead them to have a profoundly wrong idea of what a good relationship should look like, leading to even more fucked up relationships (likely with children) who continue the cycle of trauma, anger, and sadness.

Also it's a massive governmental overreach in general.

So that's why your idea is fucking idiotic.



Thank you for expounding.

As for why I suggested such an idea: you know how sometimes the wife (usually it's the woman, but can sometimes be the man) just says she is "not happy in the marriage", or cites any such frivolous reasons as the grounds for initiating a divorce, which breaks apart an otherwise OK marriage.  Mainly I want to prevent this from happening because I feel that the welfare of the children should come ahead of the parents' happiness, unless there is something serious going on like abuse or infidelity.  But I think you have a point too.  And I think we would need to sit down at a table and hash something out that can adequately address the issue I mentioned above, while not forcing two people who hate each other, to stay together.

You mentioned government overreach, and yes I agree what I suggested would indeed be one instance of such overreach.  However, the thing is, the government already reaches into quite a few aspects of our lives, forcing us to do things we don't want to do.  One example: laws concerning child abandonment.  The government is essentially saying that parents have to rear their child.  When you think about it, this is forcing people to do what they don't want to do, and constitutes a violation of their bodily freedom.  But guess what?  Most of us agree that such a law is reasonable.  So this tells me that there are instances where the government can compel people to do things against their wish, when there is something more important at stake, namely, the welfare of a child.  And we just need to extend this line of reasoning to divorces.  Yes to force an unhappy wife to stay in her marriage is encroaching on her freedom and bodily autonomy.  However, it is for the welfare of the children in said marriage, which trumps all, as we found earlier.  And since we already established a precedent where the government can make parents do things against their wish, this is why I feel that we can make them do what they don't want to do in yet another area.




Not being happy in the marriage, is, to me, not frivolous. The point of a relationship to be happy, or at least happier than if you were not in one. So if someone isn't happy in the marriage, that's not an "otherwise OK" relationship. If you were on fire, but your credit score was good, your car's oil didn't need changing, and your shoes fit well, would you say that you were "otherwise OK"? No, you'd be screaming and trying to put yourself out. Because the FIRE is the important thing.

We also disagree that the parents staying together in an unhappy relationship is somehow better for the children. It's not. "Staying together for the kids" leads to exactly what I mentioned before, the children having a wildly inaccurate template of what a good relationship should be.

Your point about it being a government overreach, but that's ok because the government ALREADY overreaches, is...Well let's just say I disagree that because something wrong is already happening that we should say fuck it and double down.


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Not being happy in the marriage, is, to me, not frivolous. The point of a relationship to be happy, or at least happier than if you were not in one. So if someone isn't happy in the marriage, that's not an "otherwise OK" relationship. If you were on fire, but your credit score was good, your car's oil didn't need changing, and your shoes fit well, would you say that you were "otherwise OK"? No, you'd be screaming and trying to put yourself out. Because the FIRE is the important thing.




Maybe the point of being in a relationship is to be happy but I think for a marriage, the bar should be set higher, especially when there are children involved.  Once your marriage produced a child, your priority should not be your personal happiness anymore.  It should now be about giving the child the most stable and best possible environment to grow up in.

Your fire analogy is not accurate.  I would not liken a woman feeling "unhappy" to being on fire.  Of course, maybe some of them are genuinely extremely unhappy, this is possible.  However, what I meant is that a lot of them simply dissolve a marriage just because they are not 100% satisfied with it, despite there not being any glaring flaw in said marriage.  I know it's bad that a third party such as the society tries to determine levels of happiness in a private relationship, but I really think it needs to be done because there is a pandemic of women breaking up with their husbands for pretty much no good reasons.

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We also disagree that the parents staying together in an unhappy relationship is somehow better for the children. It's not. "Staying together for the kids" leads to exactly what I mentioned before, the children having a wildly inaccurate template of what a good relationship should be.




This is a valid point and I should keep this in mind as I try to modify and improve my suggestion.

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Your point about it being a government overreach, but that's ok because the government ALREADY overreaches, is...Well let's just say I disagree that because something wrong is already happening that we should say fuck it and double down.



Actually, I didn't say governmental overreach is always wrong.  I said that when there is something more important at stake, then government intrusion into people's lives can sometimes be justified.

Furthermore, if you are against government overreach in my suggested idea, but you don't actively protest against similar overreach in, say, child abandonment laws, this means you are inconsistent in the application of your sense of justice.


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Not being happy in the marriage, is, to me, not frivolous. The point of a relationship to be happy, or at least happier than if you were not in one. So if someone isn't happy in the marriage, that's not an "otherwise OK" relationship. If you were on fire, but your credit score was good, your car's oil didn't need changing, and your shoes fit well, would you say that you were "otherwise OK"? No, you'd be screaming and trying to put yourself out. Because the FIRE is the important thing.




Maybe the point of being in a relationship is to be happy but I think for a marriage, the bar should be set higher, especially when there are children involved.  Once your marriage produced a child, your priority should not be your personal happiness anymore.  It should now be about giving the child the most stable and best possible environment to grow up in.

Your fire analogy is not accurate.  I would not liken a woman feeling "unhappy" to being on fire.  Of course, maybe some of them are genuinely extremely unhappy, this is possible.  However, what I meant is that a lot of them simply dissolve a marriage just because they are not 100% satisfied with it, despite there not being any glaring flaw in said marriage.  I know it's bad that a third party such as a society tries to determine levels of happiness in a private relationship, but I really think it needs to be done because there is a pandemic of women breaking up with their husbands for pretty much no good reasons.

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We also disagree that the parents staying together in an unhappy relationship is somehow better for the children. It's not. "Staying together for the kids" leads to exactly what I mentioned before, the children having a wildly inaccurate template of what a good relationship should be.




This is a valid point and I should keep this in mind as I try to modify and improve my suggestion.

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Your point about it being a government overreach, but that's ok because the government ALREADY overreaches, is...Well let's just say I disagree that because something wrong is already happening that we should say fuck it and double down.



Actually, I didn't say governmental overreach is always wrong.  I said that when there is something important important at stake, then government intrusion into people's lives can sometimes be justified.

Furthermore, if you are against government overreach in my suggested idea, but you don't actively protest against similar overreach in, say, child abandonment laws, this means you are inconsistent in the application of your sense of justice.




I can be as selective as I want to be in what I decide to protest about, it doesn't make anything more, or less wrong than if I didn't protest about it. If you want the entire list of everything going on in the world that I feel is fucked up then we'd be here all night.

I'm not sure how many unhappy marriages you've been raised in, but it is not an example of a "stable and best possible environment" for a child as you seem to think.

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about women, and that rubs me the wrong way. You are basically saying that the majority of women want out of their marriage because they selfishly want to be happy and that the man is usually doing nothing wrong. I find this a fundamentally flawed and misogynistic belief, and I give your opinions and your ideas less weight because I feel that your judgement cannot be trusted.

You seem very biased, which causes your premise to be slanted incorrectly from the very beginning, and any argument you follow down that path only leads to you being further from the conclusion that an unbiased view would find given the same set of information.


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    #28626995 - 01/19/24 10:18 AM (9 days, 4 hours ago)

We've tried a world without no-fault divorce and it's fucking terrible, hard pass. And until someone can provide empiric info that children do better in a loveless marriage (at best) than an amicable divorce where both parties co-parent than I see no reason to believe it would be any better for children.

BTW, If you cannot do this (amicably co-parent after a divorce) or your partner cannot do this and is not mature to y'all have fucking NO business having children together - don't stick your dick in someone who is incapable of putting their own small selfish shit aside for the sake of their literal child. Unfortunately, it's not common and people are garbage, but that doesn't make it any less pathetic.

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Not geared toward you ImaTrooper, I agree with you - just this sudden push to rollback no-fault divorce from short-sighted ideologues.



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I can be as selective as I want to be in what I decide to protest about, it doesn't make anything more, or less wrong than if I didn't protest about it. If you want the entire list of everything going on in the world that I feel is fucked up then we'd be here all night.




Perhaps I shouldn't have said protest.  I don't mean that people have to be actively protesting.  What I am trying to say is that when one feels one thing is bad, but is totally fine with another thing that is fundamentally the same, this means one is being inconsistent.

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I'm not sure how many unhappy marriages you've been raised in, but it is not an example of a "stable and best possible environment" for a child as you seem to think.




This is why I said your argument that forcing people to stay in an unhappy marriage can be worse for the child has some merit.  But my point is rather that people should not only think about their personal happiness when evaluating their marriage.  There is something else at stake, namely the welfare of their child.

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You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about women, and that rubs me the wrong way.




No.  I mentioned that there are also men who act this way, in post #28626924, on page 2.  I did mention women again without mentioning men, because it was easier to type.  I fully acknowledge that a man can also dissolve a marriage for no good reason.  This is not an exclusively female phenomenon.

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You are basically saying that the majority of women want out of their marriage because they selfishly want to be happy and that the man is usually doing nothing wrong. I find this a fundamentally flawed and misogynistic belief, and I give your opinions and your ideas less weight because I feel that your judgement cannot be trusted.




See above.

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You seem very biased, which causes your premise to be slanted incorrectly from the very beginning, and any argument you follow down that path only leads to you being further from the conclusion that an unbiased view would find given the same set of information.




I don't have any premise, because I am not arguing about a logical problem.  I am just proposing a possible solution for what I see as a problem.  Question for you: do you agree that there are people (not just women), who dissolve a marriage for frivolous reasons?


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    #28627007 - 01/19/24 10:30 AM (9 days, 4 hours ago)

I'll bite:

Yes. Do you think that's exclusive to one sex?

More questions for you:

What would you regard as frivolous? If someone's gonna jump ship over something like a petty fight, would you not agree that it'd probably be stupid to stay married to such a person in the first place? Furthermore, why do you believe government intervention is married above people dealing with the consequences of their own actions? There are mechanisms in place for people to protect themselves like prenups. After a certain point, don't you think any free society allows people to avoid staying in a marriage they don't want to, and furthermore be adults and deal with the consequences of that?


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1-3” inches they said



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Yes. Do you think that's exclusive to one sex?

More questions for you:

What would you regard as frivolous? If someone's gonna jump ship over something like a petty fight, would you not agree that it'd probably be stupid to stay married to such a person in the first place? Furthermore, why do you believe government intervention is married above people dealing with the consequences of their own actions? There are mechanisms in place for people to protect themselves like prenups. After a certain point, don't you think any free society allows people to avoid staying in a marriage they don't want to, and furthermore be adults and deal with the consequences of that?


Don't pull the 'save the children' act without actual proof to back up your claims if you're trying to come across like you're actually objective.




"Pulling an act"? "I am trying to come across like I'm actually objective"?  Sounds like you have a problem with me.  Come back to me when you are less biased.


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I apologize, I meant the "save the children" act in a trope sense - because it's a very common argument that people make and commonly without backing it up, not because of you individually.


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I apologize, I meant the "save the children" act in a trope sense - because it's a very common argument that people make and commonly without backing it up, not because of you individually.



Thank you.

And to answer your question:

Indeed we would need to determine what constitute frivolous reasons, and this is hugely problematic because it's not only subjective, it's also really not the business of a third party to try and determine such a thing in a private matter like marriage.  However, I believe that this is a minor technical detail that can be worked out later.  First we would have to  reach the consensus that government involvement in divorces is needed.  And we are still stuck on this first phase.


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Well this thread certainly derailed in strange direction.

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Hit a snow squall near Harpers Ferry, WV and all hell broke loose on the highway



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I rock studded snows on my truck and my wife the same on her SUV. I'm lucky I live right at the cut off if I lived any further south they aren't allowed. I can drive south with them and if I get pulled over the cop sees my address and cant do shit except the typical lecture about how studded tires are worse on dry roads and all this crap. I've lived in the north my entire life and know they are the tits on hard pack and icy roads there's no safer tire. I just take them off before the roads get dry.


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    #28627457 - 01/19/24 04:24 PM (8 days, 22 hours ago)

Tfw this threads topic goes from snow to people's icy ass ex's :howdy:


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    #28627835 - 01/19/24 09:34 PM (8 days, 17 hours ago)

We got 6 inches of snow today. The good thing is that I got triple time to go plow it for 9 hours so no bitching from me.


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I saw 67 degrees forecasted for this Sunday, a handful of days ago we were covered in 4 inches of ice :lolsy:


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: koods]
    #28634660 - 01/25/24 03:37 PM (2 days, 23 hours ago)



Nearly 1/2 the CONUS is under a dense fog warning. The largest extent ever.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: koods] * 1
    #28634800 - 01/25/24 06:18 PM (2 days, 20 hours ago)

What are all the non-gray colors in that map? :sherlock:

You dense fog folk are like another country over here on the west coast :tongue2:

But seriously, pray for snow in Utah!  Flyin' out to Park City next Thursday! :snow: :jamming:


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: geokills]
    #28634815 - 01/25/24 06:28 PM (2 days, 20 hours ago)

Greens are flood watches and warnings. Maroon is flash flood warning.  Purple is winter weather advisory.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: koods]
    #28635140 - 01/26/24 12:55 AM (2 days, 14 hours ago)

63° at 3am in January 🤔



Officially 81° at DCA the warmest January day ever in DC. Last Friday at this moment I was shoveling snow and it was 20°


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: koods]
    #28636015 - 01/26/24 06:33 PM (1 day, 20 hours ago)

Above zero and raining here. Any hope for a snowmobiling season here is dying real quickly.


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Re: Snowmageddon 2024 [Re: Rukus]
    #28636034 - 01/26/24 06:52 PM (1 day, 20 hours ago)

I am very glad I didn't buy the mega pass for skiing. All of my local places are down to limited runs already.


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