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Offlinecb9fl
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What would this be considered?
    #2862501 - 07/06/04 09:16 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'm trying to figure out what political category my beliefs would fall in : democrat, republican, libertarian, libertarian-socialist .. etc.


I believe in the death penalty in the case of murder.

I believe the government should attempt to be as small as it possibly can and try to intrude on people's personal decisions as little as possible.

I think the Patriot Act should be repealed.

I think the War on Drugs should end and drugs should be decriminalized but that drugs should be regulated (like alcohol and tobacco are now but to a larger degree for hard drugs).

I think the US should favor more personal freedom as opposed to less as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.

I think the US should work towards universal health care.

I think the US should stay out of other countries disputes and problems as much as possible.

I think the US should work towards better social programs.

I believe in the right to bear arms.

I don't believe in Mandatory Minimums.

I do believe that capitalism as it is practised in the US leads to problems as the person that acts most dishonestly ( in my experience ) tends to profit the most.

I believe a Police Officer's first priority should be to serve and protect the public.

I think as long as a person can provide for themself they should be allowed to move to the US.

Edit: I definately don't support the war in Iraq.

Ask any questions you want that can help determine where you think my political beliefs fall.


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Edited by cb9fl (07/06/04 09:19 PM)


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: cb9fl]
    #2862557 - 07/06/04 09:31 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well, you don't HAVE to categorize yourself, but here's some things that stand out for me:

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I believe the government should attempt to be as small as it possibly can and try to intrude on people's personal decisions as little as possible.



This is a very libertarian idea.

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I think the Patriot Act should be repealed.



This is just down-right sensible.

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I think the War on Drugs should end and drugs should be decriminalized but that drugs should be regulated (like alcohol and tobacco are now but to a larger degree for hard drugs).



This is SOMEWHAT libertarian, though libertarians tend to favor little if any regulation.

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I think the US should work towards universal health care.



This is socialist, and contradictory to the whole "small government" idea.

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I think the US should stay out of other countries disputes and problems as much as possible.



This is isolationism.

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I think the US should work towards better social programs.



While the term "better" is subjective, I'd say this sounds rather liberal/socialist.

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I believe in the right to bear arms.



libertarian/conservative

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I do believe that capitalism as it is practised in the US leads to problems as the person that acts most dishonestly ( in my experience ) tends to profit the most.



Are you against capitalism itself or just what we call capitalism here in the U.S.? I'd say that what we consider capitalism in this country is really just corporate socialism.

Anyway, I'd say you sound like you lean more towards the left than the right, but with some social libertarian ideas.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2862586 - 07/06/04 09:42 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'd suggest you not get tricked into being labelled and getting stuck into just one way of thinking but if you're curious try this http://www.politicalcompass.org/


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2862602 - 07/06/04 09:48 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you against capitalism itself or just what we call capitalism here in the U.S.? I'd say that what we consider capitalism in this country is really just corporate socialism.




I've only lived in the US so I can only speak from that perspective. I don't like the way huge corporations are able to side-step rules just to make a few dollars. I don't like how most corporations are more concerned with their share holders than their employees. I don't think corporations should be given as many rights as they are.

Hm so would that be considered libertarian-socialist or a socialist libertarian?


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: Worf]
    #2862617 - 07/06/04 09:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not. I'm very confident in my views. But I would like to see how my views compare with other political groups.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: cb9fl]
    #2862621 - 07/06/04 09:52 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

SOCIAL libertarian, not SOCIALIST libertarian. Meaning that you are libertarian on social issues.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2862640 - 07/06/04 09:58 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

cbl did you take that political compass test? its pretty accurate i think. I measured right there with ghandi, heh.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: Worf]
    #2862674 - 07/06/04 10:06 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I just took it and I'm

Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.05


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: cb9fl]
    #2862762 - 07/06/04 10:22 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe the government should attempt to be as small as it possibly can and try to intrude on people's personal decisions as little as possible.



Still mind-boggling to me how THAT^ is reconcilable with this:

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I think the US should work towards universal health care.

I think the US should work towards better social programs.




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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2862791 - 07/06/04 10:33 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Because tax money is OURS. The government should stay out of our lives, but give us the money we need to live a good life.






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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2862801 - 07/06/04 10:35 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

huh?


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: cb9fl]
    #2862834 - 07/06/04 10:43 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

you seem mostly libertarian, save a couple contradictions.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: ]
    #2862837 - 07/06/04 10:45 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The goverment should be far away and let us choose what we put in our bodies and say what we want to say (ie the whole howard stern fcc thing). It should be close enough to give us things we would be unable to give ourselves like roads and mighty military etc.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: Ancalagon]
    #2862870 - 07/06/04 10:50 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Because I modified "small" with "as it possibly can".

I do believe in government and that it should provide social programs while always trying to stay as small as possible. I guess I think the government needs to balance the two always with an eye on keeping it small.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: Learyfan]
    #2862899 - 07/06/04 10:57 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Learyfan said:
Because tax money is OURS. The government should stay out of our lives, but give us the money we need to live a good life.



But it's not "our" money in the collective sense. It's "our" money individually. What you're talking about is not giving everyone their money back, but rather giving one person's money to someone else. The old Robin Hood trick.


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Re: What would this be considered? [Re: cb9fl]
    #2862910 - 07/06/04 11:00 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I do believe in government and that it should provide social programs while always trying to stay as small as possible. I guess I think the government needs to balance the two always with an eye on keeping it small.

other than social programs, do you support other interferences in the market?

do you support things like the minimum wage? protective tariffs? rent controls? subsidies?


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