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 B+ LC injection into 5 pounder, day 1 I didn't even want to do another tub, I wanted to focus on one at a time but got pressured into a second run. Meanwhile the lc arrived by post and sat in the box for 20 minutes after drop off, the registered temp out side is 4 degrees fahrenheit. When I was handed the parcel it was super cold to the touch. The syringe still had fluidity and a bubble would easily go up when flipped. The contained mycelium would move within the suspension when agitated. I didn't even bother taping off the rubber port like I typically do, not sure if even needed for "self sealing port". Im mad at myself for giving into doing another run, and ordering biological supplies when a freezing artic blast of air sits over the territory. I don't really care if this successfully grows out. There's sterility, there's passive cleaning prep, there's laziness, there's rawdoggin it, and finally there's straight up malfescense. About the only other thing I could of done was soaked it in the toilet, the dog was curious, I figured what can it hurt. Not sure if the barrel in the bag is visible, oh yeah be positive
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28623748 - 01/16/24 05:15 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Lol , did you shoot that whole Lc in :P . You could of just saved it in fridge.
The lc might have frozen, Lc and mss aren't as forgiving to freezing temps. Spore prints are safe. Ya i would of waited till this artic weather passes for most the northern world in next couple weeks.
Currently have my own Too much spawn too many tubs moment. I Recently got gifted unemployment so I decided to do a "few grows" 17lbs of dry grain later lol..... I don't even have enough coir lol. Got 5lbs dry for 25 lbs of spawn left to go ... You can always dry and store. I've been just giving out to people i barely know :P. Never know how you can make a casual acquaintances day lol.
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Went from raw doggin' it on the kitchen counter, to raw doggin' it on the toilet!
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28623771 - 01/16/24 05:31 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Hello Silentraindrops, yes it was all shot in, till the plunger bottumed out. Had quit a bit of mycelium too, about 4 C's worth. I've seen people complain about the quantity in barrels but this one was mucho thick. I'm pretty sure it got frozen killed, the barrel and plunger were frigid in me bare hand. Also in the PNW, it's freaking cold out. The only thing I hate about the winter here is we have to put the cats shit box in the house, they won't go outside. Come spring I pitch that nasty thing and they go outdoors to relieve themselves.
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Changed said: Went from raw doggin' it on the kitchen counter, to raw doggin' it on the toilet! 
Raw doggin' it would be a step up in the world. This straight up consisted of feces germs and my hairy assistant ๐โ๐ฆบ lol. Thanks for the upvote, not sure what it means? I'm almost at a 2 year membership and just added a avatar last month. Still figuring this out
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it's the freezing that kills it I believe. Cold is ok so long as it isn't frozen.
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This is from the same vendor that got my hands on a my current run lc (PE). That stuff is going great and it didn't have half the amount of suspended mycelium. This one was pretty fat and have no doubt if it wouldn't of gotten deep freezed it would of been explosive, who knows maybe something will come of it, b positive. Disregard, someone edited previous
Silentraindrops, I forgot to add, bravo for comping folks. Your good gesture will come around to you. I want to give away shroomy chocolates and lc in the future.
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Changed said: Went from raw doggin' it on the kitchen counter, to raw doggin' it on the toilet! 
Just when I thought it couldn't get any better! 
Edit: not trying to rag on you funfarm. I think your techniques are wild, but I really do hope to see you succeed.
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Hello AndImTheHighOne, why thank you much. The following is not directed at you, just pointing something in general out. I feel guilty as to how the mycology game has changed drastically over time. For example just the use of the internet for reference and learning, the ability to order prepped grains or substrate, down to ordering spores or lc via e-commerce. How about those old timers, the saltier growers, people registered on this very site for over 20 years. When spores had to be acquired thru the back of a high times magazine, you had to clip out a add and send in cash. People where forced to make their own spawn and sub, if you had questions... Forget about it, you had to go to the public library and check out a book. I have taken advantage of the technology, what it offers, and was not ever made to learn, bypassing the learning curve and hard work required to succeed. It's a sham that someone with no experience (like me) with a debit/credit card, internet access, and literally only a few dollars in Walmart supplies can successfully grow shrooms. It's not at all what it was like for cultivators of yesteryear, like it is today. I point the finger at myself, I'm the guiltiest. To be honest, it's a slap in the face of any old time grower, with what I do. I mean hell I push goo into a bag, modify a storage tote, spread horse shit in that tub, and whammo shrooms. I do 5% of the work a shroomer did 20 years ago and I think it goes unnoticed. If anything, I get mycelium out of this frozen B+ it only serves as a testament to how far we have come. Again not directed at you my friend, thank you Edit, thank you for upvote
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metaneuralnetwork said: it's the freezing that kills it I believe. Cold is ok so long as it isn't frozen.
I ๐ค think your right and Im surprised. It appears at day 4 from the shoot in there's early signs of white fuzz beginning to show face from rye kernels focused in one spot on the back of the bag. Maybe premature happiness but I'll be back with the Cyberdyne systems model 101 for sure updates of the rawdog toliet bowl inoculation. Pretty pleased for a person who didn't want to run 2 tubs at a time. This B+ specimen is tuff because it came in from a super cold box at 4ยฐ f.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28628833 - 01/20/24 04:43 PM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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Funfarm said: Hello AndImTheHighOne, why thank you much. The following is not directed at you, just pointing something in general out. I feel guilty as to how the mycology game has changed drastically over time. For example just the use of the internet for reference and learning, the ability to order prepped grains or substrate, down to ordering spores or lc via e-commerce. How about those old timers, the saltier growers, people registered on this very site for over 20 years. When spores had to be acquired thru the back of a high times magazine, you had to clip out a add and send in cash. People where forced to make their own spawn and sub, if you had questions... Forget about it, you had to go to the public library and check out a book. I have taken advantage of the technology, what it offers, and was not ever made to learn, bypassing the learning curve and hard work required to succeed. It's a sham that someone with no experience (like me) with a debit/credit card, internet access, and literally only a few dollars in Walmart supplies can successfully grow shrooms. It's not at all what it was like for cultivators of yesteryear, like it is today. I point the finger at myself, I'm the guiltiest. To be honest, it's a slap in the face of any old time grower, with what I do. I mean hell I push goo into a bag, modify a storage tote, spread horse shit in that tub, and whammo shrooms. I do 5% of the work a shroomer did 20 years ago and I think it goes unnoticed. If anything, I get mycelium out of this frozen B+ it only serves as a testament to how far we have come. Again not directed at you my friend, thank you Edit, thank you for upvote
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Re: B positive [Re: Changed]
#28628844 - 01/20/24 04:48 PM (11 months, 21 days ago) |
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Jolly Green Giants, not green trych ones, just Jolly Green ๐
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 2
#28629388 - 01/21/24 02:59 AM (11 months, 20 days ago) |
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Yep it's definitely mycelium @ day 5. She blinded me with science. It's poetry in motion She turned her tender eyes to me As deep as any ocean As sweet as any harmony But she blinded me with science She blinded me with science! And failed me in biology, hey
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28631185 - 01/22/24 03:21 PM (11 months, 19 days ago) |
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I've decided to get another single pound bag of rye to add to the existing 5 pounder. It looks like there will enough room for the whole amount in one bag without encroaching the fae patch. With a total of 6 pounds rye mixed with 20 pounds of substrate, it should get me close to a 5 inch thick cake. Of course this ratio presents a 1:3.3 ratio by weight. Its been a goal of mine for some time now to achieve a 5" tall shit cake.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28635379 - 01/26/24 08:25 AM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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 Day 10 from LC inoculation, new bag sealer should be here today via the Amazonians. Will combine the two separate bags. Again the #'s, 6 to 20 for 5".
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28635803 - 01/26/24 04:07 PM (11 months, 15 days ago) |
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 As soon as the brown truck guy dropped of the new sealer, I got to work. First there were 2 and then there was 1. I was worried about not having the interior bag space to shake and break up. With rolling action and vigorous bouncing I think we got it mixed up decently. Just as I was dropping the contents of the 1 lb into the bigger bag.... Like clockwork or being summoned by the contamination monster at the perfect time, here comes grandma walking thru the kitchen with a dirty dander filled king size bed comforter. Passing 1 foot from the kitchen counter with open sterile rye bags, I swear I think she did it on purpose. She's at her kung fu gym right now and I feel like throwing a dog turd in the washer with her dang comforter. If this young B+ colony survived another environmental pitfall, I'll be all to excited to see how it fruits, while right now I'm more concerned if it will come back without bacterial growth. I spoke with the rye vendor today and they are making up to 10 pounders now in oversize bags! Right on, next up the 10'er, and it's got to be a white surf board run (albino tidal wave).
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28651445 - 02/08/24 08:38 AM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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Well well well.... What do we have here? Serratia bacteria! I think I may have shot myself in the foot by trying to be cute and fancy. The combined 6 pound of rye colonized a good 50% or more and then stalled this last week. I went to break it up and the top portion of the bag that was uncolonized broke up as orange berrys. I'm thinking the exposure and transfer of sterilized rye in open air combined with a very small empty space within the combined bag (which is very little as the rye content comes right up to the fae patch) made for contamination. Oh well, a healthy LC sample and 6 pounds of rye down the drain, both items came at a discount, so just out time really. I contacted the rye vendor prior and they have up to 10 pounds of sterile berries in oversize poly bags. That's what I'll have to do next time. My apology this thread is now dead, I'll have to make it up with a B+ in the future in the correct size bag. I have shared in other places that one of my goals is a 5" tall cake in a 66 qt tub, and I thought it was so damn important. With other recent experience I'm finding a cake can prosper when finished as thin as 2". I'm kicking myself because if I would of just let the culture do it's thing inside the original 5 pounder, I would have a bulk cake baking right now. I broke the contaminated bag up real good and put it in a separate area of the rest of the projects. Maybe it will recolonize but I'm not holding out much hope with the amount of orange I witnessed. If I had to guess the volume by area equaled a half pound of pure orange berries to 5.5 pounds of healthy grain. To much moisture in that small of a space, couldn't breath and temps have been constant.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28652240 - 02/08/24 08:52 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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Orange bread mold, cause is heat and moisture. Too small of a poly fill bag to hold 6 pounds. There's not enough room to even shake up and shift the berries it's too tight. It's going to the rubbish can.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28652252 - 02/08/24 09:02 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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I believe you may have accidently or not skipped a step in your sterile procedure, or the orange mold came in with the syringe (happens sometimes). Or the grains weren't sterilized properly for whatever reason. It can't show up if it's not there (or dead) in the first place if you catch my drift.
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Re: B positive [Re: MrJong]
#28652294 - 02/08/24 09:56 PM (11 months, 2 days ago) |
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The original 5 pounds are clean, the culture was growing in it really well (nice and white, with normal grain color), that vendor has sent me over 20 bags with no problem yet. The one pound I added to it was from a different vendor, never used before. It was transfered from bag to bag on a clean kitchen counter in open air and then heat sealed. The culture vendor is solid, haven't used a great number of their syringes but never a problem. Here's the timeline: It was growing really well for 10 days (immeadiatly after inoculation) healthy white no colored grains, then I combined the bags at day 11, (exactly 2 weeks ago), and then it quit growing last week. The myc growth pattern in the combined bag went up and stalled exactly where the orange clump I broke up this morning was, which is at the top of the bag. That is where a majority of the new grains sat. Suspect new grains? Hmmm? Thank you for the input, got me thinking, the new grains might have been sterilized a long time ago and sat on a shelf, not sure may ask new vendor tomorrow.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28652313 - 02/08/24 10:26 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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This thread, although funny, is honestly a bit sad.
With all due respect did you think this through before sharing? It's like you decided to take everything this site has to offer and then pissed on it while filming it so that you could post a thread on shroomery saying ,"hah, I pissed on your ideas, here's a video of me doing it"
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No no, not sad, it's great and funny! Feel free to call me a dipshit with no clue, I don't mind and it fits me well. Experience from failure is what makes the best teacher for me personally. Yes yes, I totally thought about sharing this before posting. I enjoy sharing even if it makes me look foolish, because it's humbling. I learn best by doing, I believe it's called kinesthetic learning method. I do apologize DERRAYLD, my comprehension of written word is not that great, I suffer from memory registry problems and other acute mental comprehension issues attributed to traumatic brain injury. It's my fault, I did not intend to make it seem as though I pissed on the Web sites information and ideas. If you don't mind my friend I would like to further expand on this. Before I enlisted in the military my dad wanted me to follow in his footsteps and provided me the opportunity to get my pilot certifications. Even before being injured, I didn't learn how to fly single engine instrument approaches down to a 200 foot ceiling above the ground in a twin engine aircraft (simulating a engine out procedure) by reading from a book. I learned hands on in a light beechcraft. I don't do well with tutorials or written word and for that I am truly empathetic.
Edit: As I previously shared in another thread, I have terrible shoulder arthritis and a torn rotator cuff so SAB's are not a option for me. I would have rather done all the work in a nice clean environment instead of the toilet but that's the best I can do. Mind you I couldn't get the sealer and bag on the toilet so I elected for the bleached kitchen counter top. Thank you for your input, I'll make a better effort at understanding the wealth of knowledge found here at the shroomery. I didn't want to piss the Web site, I typically piss my pants if not in a guard, it doesn't bother me. I only laugh at the fact my body is failing in large part of how hard I have lived.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 2
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You do you brother, this isn't my forum to police with some hard edge.
I just made my statement but ultimately it's still your forum to use freely as you wish.
Don't let me get in the way of your learning, that's definitely not my goal here.
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I was harsh when in reality I used the bathroom for many years however I didn't inject an entire syringe and then allow my dog to lick the bag.
There's only so much risk taking that one grow can handle.
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Oh no my friend, I have that effect on people. In my defense (as discussed), this culture shipped then was found in the mailbox at 4 degrees f, toliet inoculated, and dog licked. It would have done really great with no doubt if I wouldn't of opened it up from its sterile wonderful 5 pounder home. Given the growth amount at stall, it would of for sure been colonizing horse dung right now. As we mentioned there are way too many questionable variables but I would put my money on a dirty one pound of rye.
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DERRAYLD said: This thread, although funny, is honestly a bit sad.
With all due respect did you think this through before sharing? It's like you decided to take everything this site has to offer and then pissed on it while filming it so that you could post a thread on shroomery saying ,"hah, I pissed on your ideas, here's a video of me doing it"
That's what's strange to me - if you use Uncle Ben's they'll lock/delete your thread. But if you give a big FU to the forums and the teks, being dirty in a trollish way to drive it home, that's celebrated.
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I'm going to step away for a bit on this one.
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DERRAYLD said: This thread, although funny, is honestly a bit sad.
With all due respect did you think this through before sharing? It's like you decided to take everything this site has to offer and then pissed on it while filming it so that you could post a thread on shroomery saying ,"hah, I pissed on your ideas, here's a video of me doing it"
That's what's strange to me - if you use Uncle Ben's they'll lock/delete your thread. But if you give a big FU to the forums and the teks, being dirty in a trollish way to drive it home, that's celebrated.
I don't think there's any reason to poke any further. He acknowledged with a good attitude and I salute that and embrace it.
He's learning and that's all we can ask of anyone here.
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I can totally understand UB tek being banned. No need to further confuse, with terrible Teks, people trying to grow some shrooms, especially when this is already mentioned in the forum, for all to see. On the other hand, some good natured humour isn't the end of the world, right? I mean, think about it, everyone is free to use whatever method they choose, right? If they fail enough times, then they will start asking questions in earnest. Keep in mind that this here is not a dictatorship, and if I am wrong, and it is, someone just tell me and I am out. Oh, forgot to add. I shredded one brf cake, which never fruited, in some old soil that there was in a pot for two years, didn't pasteurise anything, poo, perlite, dog hair, everything in. Do I also piss on the forum? I just had nothing else to use, and instead of throwing it out, I made a small experiment, destined to fail most probably.
ps. Obviously this doesn't go to DERRAYLD, who is a bit fast to catch on fire, but is one of the most respectful people I've met, always ready to explain himself and apologise if/when he deems that he needs to.
ps1. I am sorry to take this further, but dogma is one my triggers.
ps2. Still trying to find the celebratory post.
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Funfarm said: No no, not sad, it's great and funny! Feel free to call me a dipshit with no clue, I don't mind and it fits me well. Experience from failure is what makes the best teacher for me personally. Yes yes, I totally thought about sharing this before posting. I enjoy sharing even if it makes me look foolish, because it's humbling. I learn best by doing, I believe it's called kinesthetic learning method. I do apologize DERRAYLD, my comprehension of written word is not that great, I suffer from memory registry problems and other acute mental comprehension issues attributed to traumatic brain injury. It's my fault, I did not intend to make it seem as though I pissed on the Web sites information and ideas. If you don't mind my friend I would like to further expand on this. Before I enlisted in the military my dad wanted me to follow in his footsteps and provided me the opportunity to get my pilot certifications. Even before being injured, I didn't learn how to fly single engine instrument approaches down to a 200 foot ceiling above the ground in a twin engine aircraft (simulating a engine out procedure) by reading from a book. I learned hands on in a light beechcraft. I don't do well with tutorials or written word and for that I am truly empathetic.
Edit: As I previously shared in another thread, I have terrible shoulder arthritis and a torn rotator cuff so SAB's are not a option for me. I would have rather done all the work in a nice clean environment instead of the toilet but that's the best I can do. Mind you I couldn't get the sealer and bag on the toilet so I elected for the bleached kitchen counter top. Thank you for your input, I'll make a better effort at understanding the wealth of knowledge found here at the shroomery. I didn't want to piss the Web site, I typically piss my pants if not in a guard, it doesn't bother me. I only laugh at the fact my body is failing in large part of how hard I have lived.
First let me say, Thank you for your service. I personally like all your threads you have posted, they are very entertaining to me and a nice fresh of breath air the way you word things. Keep doing you brother.
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Thank you much, it's a therapeutic hobby for me so a light air comes to it naturally, and to grow magic, it is a liberating ideology on many levels. To be transparent, I don't dose more than a handful of times in a year. While I'm going to speculate that there are some folks that are conducting psychedelic mycology as a source of income and they silently may not appreciate my manner. I maybe totally wrong and off base but I would think a large scale cash cropper may not necessarily post on these type of forums but may watch the board closely. I can further in assumption and guess the vendors watch the various boards also. If you look in my other thread you can see where I previously expressed not wanting to run more than a tub at a time. Ahhh... integrity, I mean I could of never commented I had failure and let the thread die in the back pages of history. The fact the b+ bag went orange peel bacterial is just alright with me. I mean sure out of pride I wanted it to work but at the end of the day it's less stress. I really only want to focus on one tub and one genetic line at a time, get really good at the one fruit, much like grape producers of fine wines. When I ran my cannabis op, it was one strain from seed that I kept a clone donor on for years. Simple easy and streamlined, In this last paragraph I want to say I appreciate folks advocating for me and sending nice messages. Let's face it thou I do some stupid stuff that can be irritating to some members. Just today I poured a healthy quart of natalensis down the drain to free up stress and workload, it got dumped because I didn't want to look at it anymore. I didn't take a picture or make a new thread, "down the drain", but for my next trick we will inoculate a rye bag in the grass yard next to a fresh pile of dog shit. Just kidding ๐
Y'all be cool to each other, and remember we're all on the road that leads to death just some of us are on the express lane. Life's to short to be twisted at the shorts, take the time to take a breath and laugh a bit. Pointed at me as much as anyone. Gear down, 3 green, were cleared to land.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28652987 - 02/09/24 02:56 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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I forgot but couldn't bring myself to a edit on the prior given the interest of my entries by another in relation to flow (thanks btw). Probably the wrong place and time but I also load shed a fresh batch of inoculated Agar plates, 9 of them. I got all manic and just wanted to run a small count of different experiments for the sheer experience of it, and that's where I think some folks were like... what the phaq! It was 9 plates to a dog shit pick up bag and then to the church lot dumpster. Who knows maybe some albino tidal wave might pop up at the landfill. Yee Haw! So of course I saved one plate to practice the damn wrapping of parafilm on the edge. How you guys do it and make it like art is beyond me. I need some Agar transfer practice too so I'll keep the one plate to practice with. If I can get another good fruit and clone that my mission will be complete and I can return to my home planet of zaxxon 7, outside the Agar nebula.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28653219 - 02/09/24 06:37 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Well, instead of throwing it down the drain, you could just bury it outside, and give those fungi a fighting chance! That's what I would do ๐
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Re: B positive [Re: Skropi] 1
#28653228 - 02/09/24 06:42 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Shit.
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Re: B positive [Re: Skropi]
#28653237 - 02/09/24 06:53 PM (11 months, 1 day ago) |
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Skropi said: I mean, think about it, everyone is free to use whatever method they choose, right? If they fail enough times, then they will start asking questions in earnest. Keep in mind that this here is not a dictatorship, and if I am wrong, and it is, someone just tell me and I am out. ps1. ... I am sorry to take this further, but dogma is one my triggers.
Well then go ahead and leave because UB tek isn't allowed here.
And there was no dogma espoused from this end. If anything, banning a tek is dogmatic.
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Skropi said: I mean, think about it, everyone is free to use whatever method they choose, right? If they fail enough times, then they will start asking questions in earnest. Keep in mind that this here is not a dictatorship, and if I am wrong, and it is, someone just tell me and I am out. ps1. ... I am sorry to take this further, but dogma is one my triggers.
Well then go ahead and leave because UB tek isn't allowed here.
And there was no dogma espoused from this end. If anything, banning a tek is dogmatic.
I already said that I agree with the policy regarding UB Tek, so why would I leave because of that? It is not banning a Tek, no one can ban a Tek, as anyone can use any Tek they like. What isn't allowed here is the discussion that could lead to the perpetuation of UB Tek, which is a good thing, and not the same as banning. Well mate, if you really think that your demeanor towards Funfarm was justified, then I can't really add anything else. You did miss a few major parts of my post though, but that's alright.
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Re: B positive [Re: Skropi] 1
#28653508 - 02/09/24 10:36 PM (11 months, 23 hours ago) |
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I recently had a run of contaminated bags. I went to a cheaper vendor than Evviva, and was grossly punished. 2/3 of the bags got mold. With the Evviva bags, which are over twice the cost per unit, I got very few bad bags. I guess you get what you pay for some times.
I suspect your filter patch is substandard.
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OldManRiver said: I recently had a run of contaminated bags. I went to a cheaper vendor than Evviva, and was grossly punished. 2/3 of the bags got mold. With the Evviva bags, which are over twice the cost per unit, I got very few bad bags. I guess you get what you pay for some times.
I suspect your filter patch is substandard.
Now there's a excellent response. Thank you
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28654012 - 02/10/24 10:35 AM (11 months, 11 hours ago) |
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Bags are notorious for getting pinholes when used for grain, the grain can actually pop through the bag and cause a tiny pinhole that you can't see with the naked eye and will allow contaminations in, but appear to be sealed. It is highly recommended to PC grain in jars. If you bought premade grain from a vendor, then this may be the source of your woes. And you have no idea of the process that was used or how sterile their prepping procedure is. I would imagine grains such as millet or WBS does not have this issue. Just something to consider.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 2
#28654015 - 02/10/24 10:37 AM (11 months, 11 hours ago) |
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parafilm is overpriced and difficult to use, try cling wrap or(my favorite) grafting tape.
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Yeah I saw them fellas on YouTube using that grafting tape on trees and making mention of wrapping plates. Now when you do the Glad wrap do you wrap the whole plate like you're wrapping a sandwich or do you just cut it down to where you're wrapping the edge of the plate. And thank you for that encouragement because to be honest with you we're all leaning towards glad wrap around here. I've also read go with the Glad wrap name brand that it has the best manufacturing and is allows the plate to breathe without allowing contamination to pass through, excellent response much appreciated.
Edited by Funfarm (02/10/24 02:03 PM)
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28654301 - 02/10/24 03:04 PM (11 months, 7 hours ago) |
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Funfarm said: Yeah I saw them fellas on YouTube using that grafting tape on trees and making mention of wrapping plates. Now when you do the Glad wrap do you wrap the whole plate like you're wrapping a sandwich or do you just cut it down to where you're wrapping the edge of the plate. And thank you for that encouragement because to be honest with you we're all leaning towards glad wrap around here. I've also read go with the Glad wrap name brand that it has the best manufacturing and is allows the plate to breathe without allowing contamination to pass through, excellent response much appreciated.
Buy a roll of clingwrap at the market, and cut into usable size rolls, It is only necessary to wrap the outside edge to keep nasty guys out. I use a PVC cutter to cut mine, some use razor knives, whatever is easiest for you to work with. If you do decide to join team clingwrap make sure you wear the badge of honor so we know your a boss team clingwrap member!
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meta_mmxxii said: Bags are notorious for getting pinholes when used for grain, the grain can actually pop through the bag and cause a tiny pinhole that you can't see with the naked eye and will allow contaminations in, but appear to be sealed.
Wut? Bags are the typical approach for all mushroom growers that aren't growing cubensis. I've never heard of, or experienced grain poking holes in a bag. If your grain is properly hydrated, it's too soft to poke a hole in a PVC bag. Even if you're doing a no-prep run, there isn't a lot of force against the bag to make this happen.
The failures I've had with bags have been due to a poor seal, or bad filters from a bad vendor. When they work, they are more efficient than jars, and take less room. I make three jars worth of grain per bag (a little over 2 full quarts), and can run 6 bags per PC run, so 18 jars worth per run. You need a good sealer and good bags.
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I said I was going to pitch the bag in the dumpster but I'm still holding it. It's taped up in a brown paper bag, in a spare bathroom, underneath the sink, in the vanity. I just looked at it, there's some spots of mysilly coming out of the berries and some spots of slimy Orange berries. I'm thinking it's not coming back, but I'll give it a chance, I mean why tub it anyways. I just peeled on the edges of the fae and injection port patches. I did look over the bag surface, all looks good, perhaps the actual fae micron? Dunno I applied for the cling wrap plate seam sealers badge and I'm waiting for it to come in the mail. I appreciate the lead on how to cut the wrap. The PVC cutter sounds the easiest to use as I know they kinda clamp and hold the tube not allowing it to roll when cutting, so that's what I'm going get. This shroom farming sure leaves us with some odds and ends doesn't it? Maybe someone can give me a lead on what's the best item to use to look at plates magnified. I was thinking a simple magnifying glass but wasn't sure what other folks out there are using to look at Agar with especially if one has a skull full of old eyeballs. Edit: I think Im going to try a 10x magnifying glass from the Wally world of wonders. It's like 8 bucks and in stock, maybe a good start?
Edited by Funfarm (02/11/24 08:22 AM)
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28655828 - 02/11/24 05:35 PM (10 months, 30 days ago) |
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Uhhh gross, put the 10x mag glass on the bag with a led. The bag is in the trash. Thread is dead, my fault.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm] 1
#28656303 - 02/12/24 01:24 AM (10 months, 29 days ago) |
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Im just curious why you opened the 5lb bag and threw in the 1lb bag? In the open air? Get a folding table and a SAB atleast, and do this in a closed room and lock the door if you have to, but with that being said... dont open the sterile bags lol
I would be scared to do that in a SAB or even a flow hood because once its sterile I dont like to open it until its colonized.
IMO i think the bag would have been fine, as long as the needle was still sterile from the package when you inoculated it.
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Yes thank you, I agree 100%, your absolutely right. Never opening a bag again. Sab work is hard for me physically due to limitations. However, I do think a larger tub in the 100+ quart range would accommodate a sealer and larger bag of rye. Edit: Forgot to answer your question, the answer is stupidity to put it bluntly. I was attempting to go from a 5 pound rye to 15 pounds sub mix ratio, increasing over a 6 pound rye to 20 pounds sub mix in the attempt to achieve a 5" tall cake in a 66qt tub. It was foolish and by doing so I killed a perfectly good sterile bag of colonizing rye and culture specimen. I have done g2g xfer several times with success but this was the first bout with wet orange peel. Furthermore I found a 5" cake is not so imperative like I thought it was. I currently have a a slopping uneven cake that gets as thin as a couple inches on one corner and yet it was the best yielding field of the whole cake, go figure. This whole search for the golden goose led me to nothing but bacteria, capital loss, time lost, and frustration.
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Re: B positive [Re: Funfarm]
#28664022 - 02/17/24 02:20 PM (10 months, 24 days ago) |
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I was torn last week between ordering another B+ barrel or a PE one. I went PE to see if I can capture a fat bratwurst that I missed on first take of a harvest. However, I am excited to share that when I return from a short trip next week I am considering a B+ barrel for some more bathroom inoculation. Im not going to believe this thread failed with toilet bowl work, I'm confident it was issues related to moisture content in a smaller than norm bag.
Edited by Funfarm (02/17/24 02:36 PM)
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