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What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? * 1
    #28621947 - 01/15/24 09:44 AM (12 days, 21 hours ago)

I'm curious what other people's experience has been like with meditation and psychedelics and specifically low doses like a quarter or half tab of acid or the equivalent with other psychedelics.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28621962 - 01/15/24 10:06 AM (12 days, 20 hours ago)

For me, not a damned thing.

But, I had some very powerful healing experiences, literally using the word heal as a mantral intention (an mantra that is also an intention) as I breathe and focus on circulation with the mind. Waves of healing intention propagating through my body with my breath. This is also something I do sober, from time to time, but when it comes to low doses of sacred medicines it seems powerfully effective in combination.

I also had an experience where I consumed a small handful of sacred fungi, in which I did not experiences any noticeable psychoactive effects whatsoever, but it was still a powerful spiritual experience that helped me appreciate my connection to the Earth and nature. It was like a type of an initiation and it changed my life, but I don't really speak of it. It showed me that I would never be able to understand certain things and that, rather than try to rationalize or explain them; I should just appreciate them.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Nillion]
    #28621983 - 01/15/24 10:23 AM (12 days, 20 hours ago)

Drugs, another roadside attraction to our family vacation.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Freedom]
    #28623061 - 01/16/24 07:51 AM (11 days, 23 hours ago)

I take mj for muscle spasms but enjoy the side effect of increased awareness. Indeed some of my most memorial insights have been induced while sober, but the "breaking thru to the other side" with drugs is in itself a rewarding and sometimes altogether frightening experience for me.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28623825 - 01/16/24 06:21 PM (11 days, 12 hours ago)

I recommend it. Like Nillion said, an enhanced appreciation of nature. Large doses of psychedelics make the external world almost irrelevant to me as I journey inward. But low doses allow me to tune into subtle vibrations, the ripples on the surface of a body of water, the reflections off the wings of a dragonfly, the shining chlorophyll of a leaf absorbing the sun. Or, this time of year, the silently falling snowflakes shining crystalline under a street light.

On low doses with eyes closed, it can be easier to tune into the subtle energies of the body, too (chi/prana/ki). And sense energy blockages.

If you have a crystal/gem collection, try meditating while holding each rock, one at a time. "Listen" to it, hear its unique message and vibration. Throat chakra will help with this.


If you prefer more of a "pure mind" Dzogchen style meditation, it can be easier with a low dose of psychedelic (or MDMA) to sense the "clear light" of mind at a very subtle level, and bask in this.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Blue Cthulhu] * 1
    #28624426 - 01/17/24 10:23 AM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

I take Syrian Rue and mushrooms together and meditate. It's incredible and tough to explain. I get the feeling of an old wise teacher with me, I can ask questions and get answers or advice without it seeming to come from my mind. I record as much as I can for further thought and integration. Truly feels like magic, very therapeutic.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Nillion]
    #28624434 - 01/17/24 10:34 AM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

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For me, not a damned thing.

But, I had some very powerful healing experiences, literally using the word heal as a mantral intention (an mantra that is also an intention) as I breathe and focus on circulation with the mind. Waves of healing intention propagating through my body with my breath. This is also something I do sober, from time to time, but when it comes to low doses of sacred medicines it seems powerfully effective in combination.

I also had an experience where I consumed a small handful of sacred fungi, in which I did not experiences any noticeable psychoactive effects whatsoever, but it was still a powerful spiritual experience that helped me appreciate my connection to the Earth and nature. It was like a type of an initiation and it changed my life, but I don't really speak of it. It showed me that I would never be able to understand certain things and that, rather than try to rationalize or explain them; I should just appreciate them.





I really like that phrase, 'mantral intention'.

Sometimes I do something similar doing a body scan using the loving kindness phrases with each part.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28624438 - 01/17/24 10:40 AM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

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I recommend it. Like Nillion said, an enhanced appreciation of nature. Large doses of psychedelics make the external world almost irrelevant to me as I journey inward. But low doses allow me to tune into subtle vibrations, the ripples on the surface of a body of water, the reflections off the wings of a dragonfly, the shining chlorophyll of a leaf absorbing the sun. Or, this time of year, the silently falling snowflakes shining crystalline under a street light.

On low doses with eyes closed, it can be easier to tune into the subtle energies of the body, too (chi/prana/ki). And sense energy blockages.

If you have a crystal/gem collection, try meditating while holding each rock, one at a time. "Listen" to it, hear its unique message and vibration. Throat chakra will help with this.


If you prefer more of a "pure mind" Dzogchen style meditation, it can be easier with a low dose of psychedelic (or MDMA) to sense the "clear light" of mind at a very subtle level, and bask in this.





Looking at the more subtle vibrations and energy blockages is actually what I'm interested in. I'm going to continue morning meditation and do meditation once a week on a low dose and see if I can notice and bring that more subtle awareness to the daily meditation.

I notice that these more subtle aspects have a big effect on the mind, that the openess and flow of the mind at whole appears when the subtle blocks are let go and flow.

I think these subtle things might be what in Buddhism are sometimes referred to feeling tone,


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: 10ftTall]
    #28624439 - 01/17/24 10:42 AM (10 days, 20 hours ago)

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I take Syrian Rue and mushrooms together and meditate. It's incredible and tough to explain. I get the feeling of an old wise teacher with me, I can ask questions and get answers or advice without it seeming to come from my mind. I record as much as I can for further thought and integration. Truly feels like magic, very therapeutic.




Do you use the Syrian rue because it changes the quality of the mushrooms? Does it help access that teacher?


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Freedom]
    #28624457 - 01/17/24 11:01 AM (10 days, 19 hours ago)

I struggle meditating on shrooms
Its something i try every time
Honestly im usually having to much fun!
I do attempt


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: loladoreen]
    #28624462 - 01/17/24 11:09 AM (10 days, 19 hours ago)

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I struggle meditating on shrooms
Its something i try every time
Honestly im usually having to much fun!
I do attempt




me too, I did manage a couple hours last night but intended more like 4-6, ended up dancing to music, baking a cake and facetiming a friend and then a midnight bike ride

that couple of hours was kind of difficult, the helpful part was the increased sensitivity, the difficult part was more prone to distraction.


its different for me after more intense periods of meditation like a meditaiton retreat, then that built up concentration state works really really well with psychedelics...


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Freedom]
    #28625499 - 01/18/24 03:56 AM (10 days, 3 hours ago)

I prefer a full dose

100mcg of LSD or a 1.5-2.5g of APE or similar variety

It strips away all conditions and all attributes leaving behind nothing ... basking in awareness

Much easier on psychedelics than when sober :awesomenod:


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Freedom]
    #28625890 - 01/18/24 12:50 PM (9 days, 18 hours ago)

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Quote:

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I take Syrian Rue and mushrooms together and meditate. It's incredible and tough to explain. I get the feeling of an old wise teacher with me, I can ask questions and get answers or advice without it seeming to come from my mind. I record as much as I can for further thought and integration. Truly feels like magic, very therapeutic.




Do you use the Syrian rue because it changes the quality of the mushrooms? Does it help access that teacher?




Absolutely it changes everything.
Without trying to hype it up too much, I approximate the mushroom dose to feel 3x larger. I wasn't intending to meditate the first times I tried Syrian Rue at all...It just happens.
Yes the voice or sense of the teacher is much more pronounced! It's practically unavoidable.

I encourage anyone interested in that type of session to experience it. I've learned much about myself and ways to help myself through my journey.

In the strangest ways too, there's a sense of humor that feels seperate from my own. Almost like telling yourself a joke that you didn't know which makes you laugh. Then wonder, where the hell it came from.


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Re: What have you learned or experienced from meditating on a low dose of psychedelics? [Re: Freedom]
    #28636561 - 01/27/24 08:07 AM (22 hours, 52 minutes ago)

I have had enough experiences to comfortably consider myself a mystic, but I’ve potentiated 500mg via LemonTek a few times. If I were going about my day I’d probably not feel all mystical, but I’ve found if I sit to meditate under that amount it tends to promote ease of access to ecstatic experience sometimes leading to visions.

It’s fruitful if you’re both sensitive and experienced enough. I could see someone unexperienced with meditation missing the potential here.

I intend to experiment with the same amount and more for my own practice.


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