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modern.shaman
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Towns77] 1
#28585347 - 12/16/23 12:54 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Voomsi
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Hey guys,
I bought these about nine months ago. I'm living in Tasmania Australia. Coming into summer now. They're on a sunny window ledge and I water them about once a week. They don't seem to be thriving. I'm worried about the marks on them from the stones as per pics. Any suggestions?
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Towns77
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Voomsi]
#28587805 - 12/18/23 04:28 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Voomsi said: Hey guys,
I bought these about nine months ago. I'm living in Tasmania Australia. Coming into summer now. They're on a sunny window ledge and I water them about once a week. They don't seem to be thriving. I'm worried about the marks on them from the stones as per pics. Any suggestions?

they all need a new re-pot in a deeper container, and too mas agua! I'd act asap, before it's too late.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Voomsi]
#28587973 - 12/18/23 06:37 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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A window ledge is not ideal, it would be better to have some air circulation going so somewhere outside but then there will be a new set of potential problems to deal with; ie. birds, caterpillars, cats, mice, possums, cockroaches etc. Or get a small fan and every time you water your plants have it blow on them for 2 days or until the surface is dry.
The marks are not from the stones per se but from the water that adheres to the plant body after watering wherever the stones touch the plants.
To treat spray your plants with some hydrogen peroxide which you can get from Woolworths or Coles in the medicines section, that should keep the fungal rust in check. Also try a fungicide such as Captan, or a systemic such as phosacid.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Warrk]
#28588362 - 12/18/23 12:55 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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OK cool, you guys are great, I shall sort this out today. So should I repot each button separately and treat rust? Or treat rust first and then repot in a few weeks?
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Towns77
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Voomsi]
#28588629 - 12/18/23 04:31 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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I'd personally let them dry and be treated before re-potting. They would also be be much happier being planted separately too
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Voomsi] 1
#28589293 - 12/19/23 02:44 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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I would do things in this order.
First water the tub with phosacid since it is a systemic fungicide and you need the plants to absorb it for it to do its work, you don't want to repot then treat with phosacid since there will be disturbance to roots with repotting which will hamper uptake of phosacid. Put a fan on the plants after watering so there's no continuing fungal infection of plants, or put the plants outside where they get wind blowing on them and plenty of air circulation.
Next treat with hydrogen peroxide a few days after watering with phosacid.
Let substrate dry then take plants out of soil and inspect for the extent of damage. For a third treatment, paint on wettable sulphur (available in Bunnings) with a brush on all the brown, discoloured areas, let dry then pot the plants into their individual pots. You could reuse the grit in the old mix, just sift out the fines or even wash them out, a dilute vinegar solution will clean the salts off the grit and it will be as good as new - wash with fresh water before use so the grit isn't too acidic.
Lastly cross your fingers and hope that the Tassie weather warms up and the plants go on their merry way to a full recovery!
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Warrk]
#28591183 - 12/20/23 11:03 AM (1 month, 8 days ago) |
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You could always repot the healthy looking ones and graft the tips of the questionable ones. Once they go into the sun, it should help them thrive and be a lot happier. Just be sure to have them somewhere protected from excess rain, a place where they can dry out as they do their thing.
Your lophs look good regardless though. You definitely have some nice specimens there. Best of luck getting them all fixed up. You can have a few per pot if you’d like, they don’t have to be solo. It’s a lot of fun making little arrangements with lophs as well as other cacti. Just as long as they have their own root space, they shouldn’t mind at all. Deeper is usually better than wide, to accommodate the carrot/caudex/tap-root… but those little guys shouldn’t be too picky at their age.
Also there’s no rush getting them planted into new homes. If your soil is causing issues and you don’t have time to replant right away… simply dig up and lay ontop Of some dry paper towels for a few weeks. Cacti can sometimes go a few years without soil (although it isn’t necessarily ideal)… and I’ve had to leave them chilling on the counter for a few weeks before I could do anything w them. Just be sure when you do pull them up, to check the roots really good for bugs before you proceed further. Root mealies are a nasty Mofo to contend with, as they are very elusive under the soil.
Cheers man!
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Here’s some pics of a caespitosa graft I’ve had for a few years…


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Warrk] 2
#28594679 - 12/23/23 01:52 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Hi guys,
Thanks so much for all of the excellent advice. I treated with hydrochloride acid first day, second day phosacic acid and left for two days, I then dug up and left for two days, then painted with wettable sulphur and replanted into 80% pumice, 10% sand, 10% sifted cactus mix. It didn't seem.like the roots were rotting at all... What do you guys think?
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Voomsi]
#28594687 - 12/23/23 02:22 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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Looks good well done! As your plants grow the discoloured areas will become the base of the plants where there is usually some degree of brown 'corking' so nothing to worry about. Just keep an eye out for further rust problems in the future and do the same to treat although you can drop the hydrochloric acid bit as it isn't necessary.
Your new mix is great, was it easy to find pumice in Tassie or did you have to buy it online from the mainland?
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Warrk]
#28597137 - 12/24/23 09:34 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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for old time sakes
I am friends with April Curtis and before Operation WebTryp we saw alot of eachother
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modern.shaman
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Penroc3]
#28601807 - 12/29/23 05:27 AM (30 days, 11 hours ago) |
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Mycoplex
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L. jourdanania

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Mycoplex] 2
#28622270 - 01/15/24 02:29 PM (13 days, 2 hours ago) |
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@Mycoplex, looks gnarly. What's goin on there?
Repotted everything this weekend to 100% mineral. Here's a few Alberto vojtechii, about 5ish years old.
 And a random willy, also 5 or 6 y/o.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: stagger] 2
#28622335 - 01/15/24 03:44 PM (13 days, 1 hour ago) |
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stagger said: @Mycoplex, looks gnarly. What's goin on there? ]
Thanks for checking it out. It's a cultivar of L. jourdanania in which every areole pups into a clone of itself. That is why it looks gnarly, because every single areole is also a pup.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Mycoplex] 1
#28622500 - 01/15/24 06:19 PM (12 days, 23 hours ago) |
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That's fucking gorgeous!
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Mycoplex]
#28622661 - 01/15/24 08:18 PM (12 days, 21 hours ago) |
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That's awesome! Does it stay this color too? Has it ever flowered?
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Mycoplex
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: stagger]
#28622699 - 01/15/24 08:42 PM (12 days, 20 hours ago) |
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It hasn't flowered yet. Right now it's in this color because it's cold but in the summer months it's about the same color as other lophs and is more green. In that sense it's similar to others in that it's just in its winter coloration at the moment.
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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Mycoplex]
#28624380 - 01/17/24 09:40 AM (11 days, 7 hours ago) |
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Mycoplex said: It hasn't flowered yet. Right now it's in this color because it's cold but in the summer months it's about the same color as other lophs and is more green. In that sense it's similar to others in that it's just in its winter coloration at the moment.
Never heard of variegated plants only lacking chlorophyll in the winter. I thought it was like one of those variegated moon cactus grafts, where the only reason its doing so well and probably alive at all is the fact that it’s grafted to plant that can do photosynthesis for it, because of a lack of chlorophyll since germinating.
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