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Light isn’t magic. It hits a surface and diffuses,this puts heat into the surface and reflects “light” back in another direction.
You still can’t even decide if it’s a particle or a wave. You still can’t decide the meaning of the double slit quantum eraser experiment. Like, if light is that fucking complex. Then how does it transfer heat, change shape, and reflect in the angles it does?
If your smart, how does light do quantum functions on atomic particles?
Edit: bringing up how color works, shows that we detect light as an organic being through waves. The rods and cones in the eyes don’t detect particles, they detect vibrations. Which favors light being a wave.
Edit: and it’s a double meaning. That the electron is as complex as a black hole. The atom, as a construct or “agent” in the ORT theory Robert Penrose is working on. Would then work with light. As you make the atom a quantum computer itself. Doing a set of functions predefined.
Edit: Robert is close, but looking in the wrong direction. Think of an atom in that sense, as a quantum construct. A quantum node so to speak.
Edit: and another question. Are you sensing a particle or the intersection of two waves? I’ve yet to see an individually trapped photon.
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Verbal diarrhea isn't magic, either. It's still shit, though.
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Re: Physics [Re: koraks]
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koraks said: Verbal diarrhea isn't magic, either. It's still shit, though.
The slit expiration? Splitting photons? Isn’t that a quantum function? The wave form collapse? Does it collapse at all? You create a sensor that detects what you call photons. But all your detecting is a strong vibration. Nothing more.
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How do I know this? Because, it’s about me and my spirituality….. and I’m telling you, that the electron represents the ultraviolet spectrum.
Called it, you posted this stuff in the wrong section.
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The Enstein quote is also code, passed down as Enstein said to keep it secret. And only when he returned would its meaning be revealed.
A secret code passed down from Einstein who said it's meaning would be revealed when he returned?
Did you use a laser and powerful psychedelics to see the code?
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I came to the community that the quote was meant for. I delivered the message it was meant to say.
So, Einstein passed down a secret code in a secret quote that would be revealed when he returned and here you are revealing the secret code meaning. You just implied that you are something like the reincarnated version of Einstein.
This does not belong in the Science and Technology section.
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No, not exactly. I’ve actually learned programming, psychology, sociology, neurology. It’s about one who can think outside the box. So I started this a long time ago, the obsession with the atom.
If you take light and make it a quantum function, how would it interact? Obviously it’s a field harmonic, that’s how you would explain light diffusion. This comes from my knowledge of game engines being in the gaming community for decades.
So now what I’m saying, is you can’t ever measure the smallest piece of light. It would be infinitely small, if you believed in fractal math and quantum harmonics. As light being a wave would infinitely shrink.
Now what I’m saying we detect is based off my understanding of advanced computing technologies. I’ve been paying attention to how microprocessors work, 3D stacked gates. All that, because I was building computers at such a young age. When I went to college, I already know the rough concept of how a processor worked. And I took C++. So advanced functions to finite systems is another learning thing.
Now, I say make light a construct, because you literally create a quantum interaction then when it reflects off a surface. You get light diffusion, heat creation, and the restructuring of light as reflected color.
No, I’m not actually crazy. And then you can get into what are you using to actually sense the light?
Edit: theology, was originally called? In Egypt the clue is the eye of Horus. The creative side, the study of astrology. The planets and the stars, the first astrophysics. You might have things hidden in there, that has been lost. Like concepts of colors, representing the complexity of certain quantum functions being described as poetry. Just saying.
You could say, the description of a planetary orbit can describe the wobble of the electron? A their spin, right, electron spin? At different rates depending the orbit and distance from the sun?
It’s not a direct comparison but, kinda gets the idea across.
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And another question, when running a laser through a perfectly grown crystal. What is the physical mechanic that splits the light. Anyone?
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Do you think you could be wrong about any of this?
For example, I think Putin is dead and made a thread about it in the conspiracy section, but openly admit I could be wrong.
Could you be wrong?
Ever read : Femtosecond spectroscopic study of photochromic reactions of bacteriorhodopsin and visual rhodopsin...? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1011134416305383
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As shown in these studies, the low-frequencies that form a wave packets experimentally observed in the dynamics of primary products formation as a result of retinal photoisomerization have different intensities and are clearer for bovine rhodopsin. Photo-reversible reactions for both retinal proteins were performed from the stage of the relatively stable photointermediates that appear within 3–5 ps after the light pulse impact.
A single photon hits a single molecule of Rhodopsin and causes it to change shape almost instantly, and with 100% efficiency. This molecular change is like a hammer dropping and the amount of energy in the hammer is then passed through the molecule as wave energy, allowing different colors to be perceived based on the wavelength of the light that activate the molecule. After this the hammer is reset by enzymes. If you close your eyes for awhile you can see the waves of the enzymes doing this, this is the same enzyme system effect that keeps resetting your visual rhodopsin so that you can keep seeing.
I am at least somewhat aware of how our eyes work on a molecular level, having studied it.
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And that doesn’t align with what we consider light to be. It breaks the wave, so there is something about the focusing through a lens that’s important.
But beyond that, I’m serious when I say. How do you split light in a perfectly grown crystal? Like a perfect diamond?
So what’s the interaction with that? In that sense, light shouldn’t interact this way.
It also becomes a problem when you look at the double slit quantum eraser experiment. Taking into account quantum entanglement breaks the speed of light. There are obviously holes in what we are discussing.
So my suggestion is to figure out the proper mechanics of the atom first, as a quantum node. A set of quantum particle interacting to create what we call the atomic shell of the atom.
Though you need the proper spin, which I’m suggesting might be hidden in texts. Older than we know. Carbon dating is flawed, we know this as we pumped too much radiation into the earth. And radiation goes through the ground, spoiling stuff we haven’t dug up.
Then we get into the sensitivity of equipment, we can’t make steel sensitive enough because there is too much carbon 12? 14? Ugh too many numbers. So we have to use shipwrecked metal that’s hopefully pure enough.
That alone makes this type of poking around physics sketchy at best. Which is fine, completely fine. But you’ve hit a roadblock. And that roadblock is the definition of consciousness and the wave form.
This roadblock created things like nanotubes that might have quantum resonance. Cells now have known ways to communicate, via these more interesting processes. Which has caused an issue, where the reaction time of a person doesn’t match the recorded data.
Which is very odd. And you still haven’t answered how to split light on a prison. You can still say light is a vibration as a particle. It’s just the smallest wave detectable.
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I’m waiting to see when they realize that a clear perfect carbon crystal manipulates color without pigment.
Edit: I’ll take what is bending light?
The answer: a quantum mechanic.
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And I ask again.
Is there any chance you could be wrong?
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Is there any chance you could be wrong?
Hmm how? I just explained that atoms, arranged in a perfect lattice refract and bend light. You don’t have any other mechanic at play, atoms manipulating light. Without causing diffusion or heat transfer. Now, what’s the actual physics that strips the colors in a prisom?
Like, honestly here. You’re telling me you know the physical process that a prisom uses to refract light?
That would mean the atom itself, the carbon atom. Has the ability to split light. Think about that, one type of atom. A clear crystal, splits light.
So what I’m saying, is figure out the god damn proper spin of the electron. Cause obviously if you want quantum light, you need to figure out how the carbon atom splits it.
That alone should be a big fucking red flag that you know shit about physics. Big big red flag. And making an atom a quantum node, and light a quantum function. That would make a lot more sense.
You also can then look at the electron and its relationship to the proton differently. But you must really understand why now I brought up color and light.
On top of that, how does a lense work? Making an image infinitely small, and then recoding it? Also by way of a crystalline structure and a specific space curve?
Or are mirrors magic? And bending light just funky trait or mechanic of what we call glass?
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mushroomboy said: You’re telling me you know the physical process that a prisom uses to refract light?
Isn't it called refraction?
Is it even possible for you to be mistaken about any of this? Is it impossible for you to be wrong?
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mushroomboy said: You’re telling me you know the physical process that a prisom uses to refract light?
Isn't it called refraction?
Is it even possible for you to be mistaken about any of this? Is it impossible for you to be wrong?
Look, you call bending of gravity a quantum function. That interacts with time…. Or the movement of space shall we say. And you also agree that gravity can bend light, around stars.
Now I’m pointing out, the bending of light in a crystal structure might be explained if you make atoms quantum nodes. And light more complicated…..
So, now light can be bent by gravity and apparently carbon atoms stacked in a lattice.
Idk, what do you think? Should we start looking for electrons in the ultraviolet space?
Edit: and a glass lens, apparently does ><, how small does the image get inside the “lense” before it’s recoded and flipped?
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There are three main energies start with in the atom. You have gravity, the neutron. You have light, the proton, and you have electricity the electron. The order in which these are actually stored and manipulated isn’t exactly clear, it’s all symbolic.
That’s why I call the atomic shell a quantum harmonic of the total of the system. When you look at teslas experiment, running high voltage to create a plasma.
The electricity is what one might call the source of ZPE. It’s the main driving force of the atom. It’s what gives other sources energy and the binding agent of the two.
So the plasma between the ladder is gravity binding light fueled by electricity. That’s still a very sketch description, like calling the spin of an electron a color to represent a base mechanic of energy or a power state.
So what is gravity, what is light? And what is energy itself? Those are the real questions here. And how could those interactions create the particle we know as the atom.
That’s why I say to look at an atom as a node and something like a diamond as a system. When you look at it that way, then splitting light takes a different approach.
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I'll share a secret.
The first unwritten rule of science is that it can only be based on information and interpretation and as such, any scientific claim or theory can be wrong, no matter what it is.
Theories are made to be tested. They are meant to be attacked by a method called falsification and one of the better methods of this is called the Null-Hypothesis.
Are you familiar with it or its use?
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The first unwritten rule of science is that it can only be based on information and interpretation and as such, any scientific claim or theory can be wrong, no matter what it is.
Theories are made to be tested. They are meant to be attacked by a method called falsification and one of the better methods of this is called the Null-Hypothesis.
Are you familiar with it or its use?
What a scientist does, is prove themself wrong. So you postulate a theory, then you try and prove it wrong. And if you can’t, you might have something.
And if we believe gravity can be bent, Ensteins theory on gravity. Where large objects bend space, and time or the movement of particles slows the stronger the gravitational force. Based off both density and mass.
Right, we know this. And know that mechanic can also bend light. What I’m asking, is how do you explain this? We can know with high certainty that there pretty much pure carbon. They are structured in a lattice shape. And some how this bends light.
This happens in the eye too, it refracts again. To a slower medium, the liquid in the eye. Slowing it down, to a lower more easily detectable frequency. Which I find interesting.
This still doesn’t explain the exact mechanic of focal points. You know it works, but how small are we talking about? How far can you compress an image before you lose data? Compression theory and algorithms, like BZ2 with a tar packager are neat. But have limitations, so when we use a focal point. The amount of data compression going on, it’s fucking insane if you know data like that.
Now, all this fancy talk still doesn’t get around this. That somewhere you assume a focal point in the bending of light. And that points never described, it’s literally just “yup that’s an infinitely small focal point”. And then you expand it? ><
And then we don’t have any exact math to explain how the image is encoded. Ever work with photoshop? Gimp? File compression in visuals? It’s interesting because we don’t see in FPS or pixels. Here everything we use is pixels almost, except physical art. Is pretty much mathematically pixelated, and composed.
The eye does much better work. It filters out wavelengths with the eye. Takes binocular vision and cros composes it. Correcting each eye, matching the patterns and creating depth perception. All while masking imperfections, like the two holes in your eyes.
So the eye alone creates an infinite point, in theory. That somehow expands without any loss in information. All while being used in real time. Without the mythical “delay” in processing.
Very interesting stuff.
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What I’m describing is lossless compression in a data stream. How do you use binoculars? A telescope? Your compressing light? Without data loss? That seems weird doesn’t it?
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Once we are open to the idea that we have more to learn or that we could be mistaken about what we believe, it liberates and empowers us further in our quest for knowledge.
I've been wrong, am wrong and will be wrong about a great many things I believe. And because in some ways I happen to know more than most people about many things, that means I am more likely to be wrong than most people, not less, because I have more beliefs that are able to be mistaken. It's an interesting phenomenon where the more one learns about things, the more they realize the limitations of belief itself.
In this way the more we tend to learn the more aware of our ignorance we tend to become.
I am a little disturbed that I shared an image of our sun with you, one that shows its actual color, and you said that it was impossible. How can a person learn if they are not open to new ideas or information?
Sometimes people have to agree to disagree, especially when they interpret facts differently, but they often agree that those facts exist, just they disagree about what those facts mean.
But when a person rejects facts in favor of beliefs that have no factual basis it becomes frustratingly difficult to discuss things with them.
Is there a way I can use language to reach you, so that I can get you to consider things like true color images of the sun, instead of you just rejecting them based on what your belief is?
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Re: Physics [Re: koraks]
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koraks said: Alright then, since you understand it so well, please explain a couple of things to me.
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mushroomboy said: the color gets absorbed by the pigment.
Define 'the color'. What is it, according to you?
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The reflection is the wave without the color it reflected from.
Define 'the wave'. It sounds like you're talking about it in the singular. Explain how a single wave would have 'a color' substracted from it.
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You then detect this as color. Yup, look it up. It’s the reverse wave form of the pigment you reflect the light on.
Explain how the wave form relates to color. Explain how inverting this supposed waveform would alter color.
I don’t need to really explain that as much as you think. Cause I’m thinking of light as a contrstream of data. Uninterrupted, and what you might call a photon. Would be a high density area within the quantum mechanic we call light.
Cause you’re avoiding how the eye changes the image. Completely, focusing on color. Which I wanted to use to explain that light not only changes color, but dumps heat.
Which is an interesting mechanic, then I wanted to focus on focus itself. Look at a telescope, even the simple design’s essentially bend light. And focus it without losing data. Lossless compression. And then you expand it again?
Light has no FPS, it has no rate it’s constant like a flow of water. So how does an image like a city skyline get compressed in a camera lense? You just say it bends the light to a small focal point?
So what IS bending light?
Edit: live data compression of light. Going at the speed of light, constantly. And you never wondered about that? Keeping colors, shapes, depth (shading) in tact. Cross composing, to make the image you see. Reading this text.
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Most light, like that from the sun, is a mixture of wavelengths and, with the exception of excitation and emission phenomena where one color of light is changed into another via the action of a molecule, when light reaches a surface the texture of that surface can reflect specific colors, giving the object the hue that is seen. A similar thing basically happens when light moves through things, they can filter out certain colors and allow others to be transmitted.
Among the forms of light that the sun emits is a type called Infrared. It's a thing that relates to this heat concept of yours from light interaction.
How can I use language to reach you so that you will consider the scientific evidence and theories that already provide explanation for the things you describe, if you reject valid evidence like literal photographs of the Sun?
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