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Something 'Behind' the World Governments?
    #2861993 - 07/06/04 06:10 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Does anyone else share the opinion that there is something behind the world governments and that this 'something' is not benevolent?

Why is the world in the situation it is in? Of all the possibible routes that could have been taken, why are we on the one headed for destruction? Were we deliberately led down this path or is it just the natural consequence of the selfishness of human beings (i.e. "we are only animals after all")?

Why are the majority of our scientists wrapped up in the military for the purposes of creating more efficient methods of destruction and death rather than puting thier efforts toward the betterment of mankind.

Why are the world governments allowing for the destruction of our planet? Even a dog knows enough not to shit where it sleeps.

Why do governments constantly create reasons to go to war?

Are things really what they seem? Can we really affect the kind of radical change necessary to avert global cataclysm through the political system or is democracy really just a diversion...a way to give the illusion that the people are in control.

The way things are being run in the world is so completely moronic and short-sided that it must be on purpose. But why?

Wealth is accumulating in fewer and fewer hands. The rich are getting richer and the poor, poorer. Wealth is power. Fewer and fewer people are gaining more and more power. Are these people who are gaining in wealth and power 'good' people?

I know...this really isn't anything new...and you've probably already posted your oppinion before...but I'm really just trying to figure out what is really going on. I can't shake the feeling that there is more than meets the eye and it's not good.

So what do you think:

1 - Things are exactly what they seem. The president of the U.S. and the leaders of other industrialized countries are doing thier best, although they are human and are subject to lapses of moral judgment.

2 - The world leaders are fronts for various (or a single) self seeking group(s) (corporations, banks, secret society, etc.) and thier goal is the accumulation of more wealth. War and disease bring huge profits so they are perpetuated.

3 - The world leaders are fronts for powerful humans that get off on human suffering for its own sake (ala 1984).

4 - The world system is a machine that serves evil principalities that are 'other' than mere humans. These principalities may be beings or it may just be the universal dark side.

5 - Or something else?


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862033 - 07/06/04 06:20 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Is this where a member is supposed to jump up and down, raise their hand and go "I know, I know! It is the evil Greys..." ?


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Swami]
    #2862065 - 07/06/04 06:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well...I guess...if that's what they believe it is. I'm just looking for more information in order to better understand what 'it' is, if anything.

What do YOU think?


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862164 - 07/06/04 07:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I agree there is certainly something behind the government fronts, men in black as it were. The governments are usually controlled by their ministry of defence or intelligence agencies, there are people so secret in these organisations, that they don't have identities.

Who is at the top of the heirarchy and how much control, over the world, they actually have is the big question. One that will probably never be answered.

The easiest way for a man to aquire material possesions is for another man to lose them.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Ego Death]
    #2862232 - 07/06/04 07:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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danoEoboy said:
Who is at the top of the heirarchy and how much control, over the world, they actually have is the big question. One that will probably never be answered.

The easiest way for a man to aquire material possesions is for another man to lose them.




Exactly. Also, what are thier motivations? Is it simply the pursuit of material gain through power...or power for its own sake?


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862279 - 07/06/04 07:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Source said:
Does anyone else share the opinion that there is something behind the world governments and that this 'something' is not benevolent?

Why is the world in the situation it is in? Of all the possibible routes that could have been taken, why are we on the one headed for destruction? Were we deliberately led down this path or is it just the natural consequence of the selfishness of human beings (i.e. "we are only animals after all")?




i dont know if we are headed to destruction, its possible the path to peace looks like chaos from the side we are on. but its also possible ur right. i dont have any way of formulating and idea on that.
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Why are the majority of our scientists wrapped up in the military for the purposes of creating more efficient methods of destruction and death rather than puting thier efforts toward the betterment of mankind.

Why are the world governments allowing for the destruction of our planet? Even a dog knows enough not to shit where it sleeps.

Why do governments constantly create reasons to go to war?

Are things really what they seem? Can we really affect the kind of radical change necessary to avert global cataclysm through the political system or is democracy really just a diversion...a way to give the illusion that the people are in control.




what does democracy have to do with anything. this is a socialist republic.
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The way things are being run in the world is so completely moronic and short-sided that it must be on purpose. But why?

Wealth is accumulating in fewer and fewer hands. The rich are getting richer and the poor, poorer. Wealth is power. Fewer and fewer people are gaining more and more power. Are these people who are gaining in wealth and power 'good' people?

I know...this really isn't anything new...and you've probably already posted your oppinion before...but I'm really just trying to figure out what is really going on. I can't shake the feeling that there is more than meets the eye and it's not good.

So what do you think:

1 - Things are exactly what they seem. The president of the U.S. and the leaders of other industrialized countries are doing thier best, although they are human and are subject to lapses of moral judgment.

2 - The world leaders are fronts for various (or a single) self seeking group(s) (corporations, banks, secret society, etc.) and thier goal is the accumulation of more wealth. War and disease bring huge profits so they are perpetuated.

3 - The world leaders are fronts for powerful humans that get off on human suffering for its own sake (ala 1984).

4 - The world system is a machine that serves evil principalities that are 'other' than mere humans. These principalities may be beings or it may just be the universal dark side.

5 - Or something else?




thers a system in place now that protects criminals from vigilante justice.
so theres "legal" means to manipulate large groups of people. it is possible that this power has corrupted those who wield it(or they were already corrupt).

i tend to see people as rational in general, because i can be no other way.
so for things to continue as they have for as long as they have. it does make me wonder if its intentional.

the only thing i can compare our planet to now is a large farm. full of fattening pigs...the population grows and the farmers mouth waters.

i think the greatest signal that somethng is wrong. is that we have no fuckin clue what is REALLY going on.


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Edited by BleaK (07/06/04 08:09 PM)


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862341 - 07/06/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I choose #2:

"The world leaders are fronts for various (or a single) self seeking group(s) (corporations, banks, secret society, etc.) and thier goal is the accumulation of more wealth. War and disease bring huge profits so they are perpetuated."

However, I don't believe anyone is really in charge. Some people might think they are in charge but it's just an illusion.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862355 - 07/06/04 08:12 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Money.

Not-so-random fact:

The US pays, on average, twice as much per pound of sugar than the rest of the world. why is this? the US will not allow sugar to be imported from other countries. we get our sugar domestically, costing us twice as much. even despite the free trade agreement with mexico and canada, we still make an exception for sugar. the reason is because the wealthy sugar company (i forget their name.. began by two brothers in florida from Cuba) gives huge donations to organizations all over the country to ensure that the laws remain in place banning sugar trade.
even candy and cola companies are moving to canada, where sugar is cheaper. they then produce candy and drinks and stuff and ship it--you guessed it--back to the US.

why are cigarrettes legal?

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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862459 - 07/06/04 08:54 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Normally at this point I'd go on a long rant about the Illuminati and the shadow cabal that controls political figures like marionetes while they control, swindle, deceive, manipulate, and otherwise bring darkness behind their backs.. the way wars are set up in order to bring fear, thus control.. to the mass populace.. while fattening their pockets all the while. The relentless fear campaign that expunges itself from the media which is also heavily controlled by these groups. There may indeed be purpose behind it all.. what in its beginning was a humble group who believed in a supreme being and had the goal of enlightenment.. over the years morphed and other 'shadow' organizations branched off from it.. somehow they became the backbone of the government.. the wizard behind the curtain if you will... as every US president in history has been a member of at least one secret society, or at least what started as secret societies. The ones in control you will never see on TV, or hear about in the newspaper, but you can surely feel their effect. Their plan originally was what you may know as the New World Order.. that is, to achieve a one-world government that had complete control, a cashless society where everything was done through debt, credit, and credit chips implanted in the skin.. the perfect society to control a mindless populace of zombies who live to be materialistic consumers.

Then after they hooked up with the service-to-self grey aliens in the 50s, things really got messed up. The plan was to trade technology for human donors of egg, blood and tissue which the greys needed for their hybrid experiment since their race was failing through genetic manipulation over thousands of years.. but the greys didnt follow the orders of the group and also didn't fulfill their end of the bargain with supplying all the technology they promised. they got a few good ideas that later mimicked different technologies, but nothing that came close to what they wanted. The B2 was their attempt at cloaking ships like the greys had.. only the B2 didn't shift dimensions or turn invisible. Anyway after that whole fiasco and their huge coverup which is still debated to this day, the group learned the terrible secret.. that the earth was undergoing a transformation and the people were going to awaken and ascend into the 4th dimension!! OH NO!! It's really hard to control and manipulate people when everything is telepathic and people have their third eyes open. So the New World Order was intensified and the fear campaign was quadrupled, the insanity was kicked up three more notches and the hypocrisy and pure evil was out the rood.

Hahaha.. we will stop this transformation.. and keep the ignorant populace our mind slaves forever!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

But wait.. it's not working.. all of our precious mind control experiments.. brainwashing programs..wars..viruses..nuclear weapons..low fat mayonnaise and diet coke..all this control and the people are still awakening..NO YOU GODDAMN HIPPIES YOU'LL RUIN IT FOR US!!!

Wait where was I... anyway so they are really scared right now, and will try anything to stay on top for just a little while longer. They are scared of losing their power, because they know that's what will happen.. they're not stupid, they're actually very smart. So they think if they keep the populace in ignorance for as long as possible, that is the best way...for them. Don't tell them about the awakening.. what awakening? Need to know basis and apparently only they need to know. That's classified information son. This fucked up society is going to last forever.. haven't you heard?

At least, that's what I would say if I actually thought that. But I don't think that, because someone is going to ask me for proof and they are very good at getting rid of it so until I find some.. I don't think that at all, it's just something I saw written at a bus station..

and underneath it said.. the illusion will slowly reveal itself


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2862494 - 07/06/04 09:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862506 - 07/06/04 09:17 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I don't believe there is a sinister secret plan for the simple reason that a large group of people cannot keep a meaningful secret for any length of time. If anything, there is an unconscious conspiracy. The very essence of the kind of stupid things our government does is ignorance.

Oddly enough I don't really disagree with the heart of what some of you are saying. I just feel the explanation is a little more down to earth, and a lot less dramatic. I feel it's just your basic dull, everyday stupidity.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Jellric]
    #2862513 - 07/06/04 09:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

If it was truly a secret how would anyone know anything about it?
Oh did I mention they do everything in their power to keep their secret a secret?
They used to simply kill people that said too much, until that got too complicated.. that's reserved for the big ones.. Now they have professional debunkers and propogandists and other such specialists. It's the 21st century you know..


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862590 - 07/06/04 09:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Obviously, it is the Templars.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2862627 - 07/06/04 09:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Just remember I'm one of the good guys, okay? :wink:
I just don't want you showin up at my door with your ninja sword.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862689 - 07/06/04 10:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

1 - Things are exactly what they seem. The president of the U.S. and the leaders of other industrialized countries are doing thier best, although they are human and are subject to lapses of moral judgment.

---different people have different opinions, what you view as moral someone else views as immoral. This is a pretty basic fact you should know by now.

2 - The world leaders are fronts for various (or a single) self seeking group(s) (corporations, banks, secret society, etc.) and thier goal is the accumulation of more wealth. War and disease bring huge profits so they are perpetuated.

-Nations are self seeking organizations. And of course the rich have influence over their nationstates.

3 - The world leaders are fronts for powerful humans that get off on human suffering for its own sake (ala 1984).

thats plain silly. Nor is that what 1984 is about, give it a re-read.


4 - The world system is a machine that serves evil principalities that are 'other' than mere humans. These principalities may be beings or it may just be the universal dark side.

-fantasy for people who want to simplify our complex world so they dont have to take the effort to understand it.

To anyone who is confused about the world:

Grab some history books, study politics and economics and social theory. Paranoid delusions are for the weak and stupid.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2862829 - 07/06/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ever read 'Behold a Pale Horse' by William Cooper?


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2862832 - 07/06/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

no but everyone keeps telling me about it


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Shroomism]
    #2862846 - 07/06/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Ha, I have no idea what to think about it, but if even 10 percent of it is half true there are some serious goingons around here.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: TheHateCamel]
    #2862853 - 07/06/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have enough to think about just what I see going on in the DC area.


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Re: Something 'Behind' the World Governments? [Re: Source]
    #2862867 - 07/06/04 10:50 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Well here's my take. I basically agree with Shroomism's explanation. There is secret group of individuals who basically make the political and economic decisions for the world behind the curtain. However this group is not at the top of the pyramid. Above them are what I'll call the Others. They're the "owners" of this planet (or so they think) and have been manipulating events on Earth for tens of thousands of years. The gray aliens are their worker drones and the Illuminati are their puppets.

Oh and how's this for a conspiracy theory prediction: Sherman Skolnick, an independent researcher/investigator, discovered in June that John Edwards has been picked by the Bilderbergers to be the next president of the US. Just a few days ago Kerry announced Edwards as his running mate. In 1991, a relatively unknown governor Bill Clinton was also picked by the Bilderbergers. So here is what will happen. John Kerry will be elected president of the US this November. George Bush and company are already being set up to take a fall to ensure this. Once Kerry is elected, he will become fatally ill and VP Edwards will fill the position of president. The point of saying this is, that if this comes true, then maybe some people will start to realize things may be planned after all.


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