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OfflineJrey16
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Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip?
    #28618524 - 01/12/24 09:47 AM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

Earlier I took Enigma for my first time, lemon tekked it. I took way too much and I ended up have a BAD trip. Not a hard trip, but a BAD trip. A terrifying trip. I had to take some xanax as a trip killer. It helped me but my trip was still really bad and I had to get through it. Good thing I had xanax and a sober trip sitter.. I would of freaked out and wouldn't know what I'd end up doing. I NEVER got that high off of shrooms before, and sadly it was a terrifying trip.

So I'm wondering if I take the same amount tomorrow at the same time, lemon tekking it again, would it be a good idea? I know about tolerance, and I was thinking if I take the same dose maybe I'd get a better trip this time since my tolerance is up. I basically have a nonstop supply of shrooms so I am not worried about wasting shrooms and having to wait a couple weeks for my tolerance to go down.  I would not be able to shroom for a while so that is why I'm thinking of shrooming again tomorrow. And this was the STRONGEST shrooms I've ever tried. Should I take the same amount? Or less? Or more? I definitely would not want another horrifying trip again.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16]
    #28618537 - 01/12/24 10:06 AM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

You sound courageous willing to dive back in after a terrifying trip.

In that past I’d say give that bad trip time to sink in before the next, but aya has thought me otherwise.

How much did you take the first night?


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
    #28618543 - 01/12/24 10:11 AM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

Usually it’s the other way around. I ate shrooms 4-5 days in a row one time just to see. Worked every time but it got “dull” and quite non enjoyable the last day.

I’ve found it’s kind of like alcohol. First day of drinking is by far the best. Second day is decent still feeling pretty good as long as you didn’t get hammered. Third day on you’re kind of beat down and the alcohol isn’t near as enjoyable. It’s more to get you back up and the enjoyment factor is a lot more subtle.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: PancyanterA] * 2
    #28618558 - 01/12/24 10:30 AM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

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Usually it’s the other way around. I ate shrooms 4-5 days in a row one time just to see. Worked every time but it got “dull” and quite non enjoyable the last day.

I’ve found it’s kind of like alcohol. First day of drinking is by far the best. Second day is decent still feeling pretty good as long as you didn’t get hammered. Third day on you’re kind of beat down and the alcohol isn’t near as enjoyable. It’s more to get you back up and the enjoyment factor is a lot more subtle.




That's why I've never understood how people get addicted to alcohol! That second/third day (and I rarely get to three days anyway) feeling is so dirty and depleted that I can't imagine what it must be like when you've been drinking everyday for like a month, or a year! Grimy!

Do not shroom again so soon after a terrifying trip OP. Probably wouldn't work anyway, but you should defo give your mind time to heal and examine why things went wrong.

Could be a recipe for a psychotic break to dive back in so soon again after an experience as you described (close to freak out).


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16]
    #28618585 - 01/12/24 10:59 AM (15 days, 21 hours ago)

I wouldn't. I would chill out.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: wolf8312]
    #28618613 - 01/12/24 11:32 AM (15 days, 21 hours ago)

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wolf8312 said:That's why I've never understood how people get addicted to alcohol! That second/third day (and I rarely get to three days anyway) feeling is so dirty and depleted that I can't imagine what it must be like when you've been drinking everyday for like a month, or a year! Grimy!




Yeah it’s a vicious cycle. Basically they’re drinking away their withdrawals and or calming their anxiety which alcohol makes worse when it wears off. They get used to waking up each day and feeling that way. It becomes their baseline normal way of living life. I have a lot of family that are daily drinkers.

Been there done that myself. Now days I drink for special occasions, holidays, vacations, etc… the worst part for me about stopping drinking is the first 1-3 days. I’ll have the urge and have to fight it. Low on energy and mood and alcohol sounds like a solid solution. Once it gets to about day 5 I no longer have the urge at all I feel so much better alcohol sounds horrible. I have a love hate relationship.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28619108 - 01/12/24 07:37 PM (15 days, 12 hours ago)

I've had more terrifying trips on ayahuasca and iboga during ceremonies and had to sit it through. No trip killer. But y'all are completely right. I am not going to shroom again tonight. I just woke up and my mind is still processing everything that happened last night. I guess I was still kinda trippin when I posted this thread. And I took 7.5g btw. Most of the time I always heroic dose it using stronger shrooms. 12g was the most I ever took. I always had great and beautiful experiences. But that Enigma though.. holy crap that was strong and my tolerance was up too. People told me before a lot of Enigmas are just for novelty and just have medium strength. This definitely was not.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16] * 1
    #28619256 - 01/12/24 10:15 PM (15 days, 10 hours ago)

trip time takes weeks to process:mushroom2::tomatoface::fairy:


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Shroomers420] * 1
    #28619269 - 01/12/24 10:43 PM (15 days, 9 hours ago)

Maybe try not taking such massive doses for easier experiences? Destroying all forms of rational thought usually takes a while to balance out from. Like if you feel the need to do it back to back or do it regularly just go for it, but you will have to pay later. It's not a free ride.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #28619305 - 01/13/24 01:14 AM (15 days, 7 hours ago)

I might get flamed for giving bad advice but we don't have THAT many people who are in the position you're in where they had a bad trip and actually WANT to trip again the next night on the same dose and assuming the same batch of shrooms.

I do think you will be more equiped to handle it and control your trip and I kind of want you to do it for the selfish reason that I just personally want to hear about your experience.

Will you write a cumulative trip report about the experience? Anyway I say go for it if you're feeling that confident.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: elasticaltiger] * 1
    #28622889 - 01/16/24 03:02 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

I actually ended up tripping that night. I took 4.5 grams of Enigma lemon tekked. I was trippin but I wasn't where I wanted to be. Obviously it's because I tripped the night before. But I was tripping for sure. Everything looked very bright, walls breathing, closed eye visuals, etc. If I took another strain other than the Enigma I have, I probably wouldn't have felt anything. But the Enigma I have is SUPER strong. But anyways, like I said, I wanted a little more. So I ate 5 grams of Jack Frost, so 9.5g of shrooms all together. And WOW I had a very beautiful experience. I didn't expect that at all whatsoever.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #28622891 - 01/16/24 03:04 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago)

I will "pay for it later"? What do you mean


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16]
    #28623051 - 01/16/24 07:41 AM (12 days, 53 minutes ago)

OK so if your tripping to hard drink milk to ease it down and if you are tripping 2 days in a row the second trip won't be as intense from my experience


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16] * 1
    #28623767 - 01/16/24 05:28 PM (11 days, 15 hours ago)

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I will "pay for it later"? What do you mean




Your brain isn’t just an endless supply of the “feel goods”, it takes time to reset.

Also, strong shroom trips on the kinds of doses you’re talking about done too often can leave a person pretty scattered.

It’s also possible you will eat too many mushrooms one day and have a truly horrific experience which could mess you up a little for a while.

These are just a few of the possible ways we pay for it. I think the last one is especially likely if you’re young, but I could be wrong.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16] * 2
    #28623787 - 01/16/24 05:44 PM (11 days, 14 hours ago)

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I will "pay for it later"? What do you mean



Reintegration is a process that happens over time. The further we remove ourselves from our standard mode the more work our mind has to do to create our new "normal".

A lot of the time we don't even realise what's happening as it's happening, only after we realise what we went through. Especially if we really blow ourselves out of the water with sequences of very strong experiences, reintegration then can then present in stages over months.

This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's part of the experience, but it is a thing. We are not the same after strong psychedelic experiences, it does change us. That is the cost I was referring to, learning to deal with those changes. We can't just stay trippy forever, normalization will begin when we stop pushing the envelope. Many who have pushed it far look back with a kinda "what the hell was I thinking?" type nostalgia.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #28623827 - 01/16/24 06:22 PM (11 days, 14 hours ago)

The most I’ve pushed it and enjoyed it was 7grams cubes. The one time 10gram experience had some cool aspects looking back on it and unpacking what I feel was going on… Nothing about it was cool at the time though. Incredibly confusing. Couldn’t form a thought. started having forearms tensing up towards the end which is when I accepted I was dying. Then I had some horrible stomach pain while lying in bed after all that.

Pushing it is not as fun as it sounds. I’ve also done back to back days just to see and that wasn’t fun either. Basically agreeing about pushing psychedelics. Either in dose or frequency.


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: PancyanterA]
    #28623904 - 01/16/24 07:27 PM (11 days, 13 hours ago)

I've done back to back weekends for months on end and then really started pushing it hitting breakthrough doses of DMT on the peaks and stuff like that. Then I'd get things like sudden intense open eye visuals just happening randomly when I was sober during the week. Took me the best part of a year to completely balance out from. The first three months were some sort of weird blur. Fkd myself up good and proper. :tongue2:


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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Northerner]
    #28623992 - 01/16/24 08:12 PM (11 days, 12 hours ago)

Can’t say much to eating that quantity back to back. Remember doing 5g doses quite often. Sometimes it seemed as metabolized faster. Still had an incredible experience just short as ever.

For instance, 5g dose lemon tek down the hatch and sat cross legged naked in room to ride through what come about.  Started to feel them come on in five minutes or so and minutes after as was falling into it all.  Bang!  A bullet flew through my upper right chest. Eyes closed I thought to self, “I’ve been shot!”  Open eyes, ‘no, sitting high mushrooms.’  Eyes closed, ‘…been shot!’  Eyes open, “no…”. That continued for few minutes as the intensity to it all dwindled to ziltch.  Was a peak experience that was par near par that as if was to ride up to peak for next hours. Fifteen twenty minutes after dose I was out of the trip and onto the day sobered afterglow.

Same thing to an acid trip. I came onto the trip.  Laid back rode that light putting the growing energy to place and hour half two hours later the trip was over we left with sparkle body and laugh to it all and sleep two hour after that.

Drugs are something else. I wouldn’t ever try to reflect past experiences onto future happenings.

Booze, I know well. I’ve found the hangover becomes just a lingering drunkenness. I like booze. Waking up with booze still lingering through used to give hangovers where as if that booze in brain and body sits as poison.  I notice now, that hangover just residing drunk. 

I’m drinking as ‘night caps.’  Cozy, warm minded me slip easily to sleep with bit of drink in me.  I’ve calmed it down a lot. Though see a bottle of sake the perfect last half hour forty five minutes before sleep consumption.

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Re: Shrooming 2 nights in a row. First night was a TERRIFYING trip. Will tomorrow night be a better trip? [Re: Jrey16]
    #28624820 - 01/17/24 04:36 PM (10 days, 15 hours ago)

If you’re going to do a trip the next day. You’re going to not have approximately 70% the experience you did yesterday. You’re tolerance hasn’t reset etc..
After seven days, you would have a full experience.

Try some lemon balm. They said it can help.


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