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loladoreen


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Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl
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lifeiswhatyoumake


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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: loladoreen]
#28618811 - 01/12/24 03:15 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Good for him. He sent a good message. Hopefully Congress listens and understands.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: loladoreen]
#28618868 - 01/12/24 03:56 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Agree
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: loladoreen] 1
#28618870 - 01/12/24 03:57 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Who the f is jelly roll?
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lifeiswhatyoumake


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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: mushboy]
#28618926 - 01/12/24 04:49 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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He tells you in the video, dawg.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 2
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This bill permanently places fentanyl-related substances as a class into schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act. A schedule I controlled substance is a drug, substance, or chemical that has a high potential for abuse; has no currently accepted medical value; and is subject to regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal penalties under the Controlled Substances Act.
Taking this drug away from people who have a legitimate need for it is not going to do anything about it on the street. These are two different supply chains.
I worked with elderly people in chronic pain. I was there when the DEA got more strict about doctors prescribing opiates, and I watched people who were in their final years, in very bad pain lose access to something that gave them relief. I watched people in tortuous pain and there was nothing I could do.
I also had a friend with fibromyalgia who could only function with oxy. He spent two years trying to find a way to just be able to do normal things once in a while, and he decided to kill himself because he no longer had any way to function.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: Freedom] 1
#28619396 - 01/13/24 05:49 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I agree. Fentanyl has well known viable medical applications. It should not be schedule 1, which will only make it more profitable.
Changing the scheduling of a drug and increasing penalties for the use is already proven by history to not work as a way to decrease use. Rather it results in an increase of black market prices and make it more profitable to sell. It also ends harming addicts, prison doesn't help them. Most addicts who go to prison don't get better in terms of addiction. They get worse.
Making fent schedule 1 will hurt many lives. But it will not hurt the Cartels, it will increase their profits.
I have this opinion and can think of 6 people I knew and loved who are dead of opiate overdoses, many of them likely related to fent.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: mushboy] 2
#28619419 - 01/13/24 06:28 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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mushboy said: Who the f is jelly roll?
He went from rap to country singing. Did several prison stints, at least one for drug dealing.
Had to at least tie the record for most unusual looking person to testify before congress. Hopefully they didn't judge the book by the cover.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: Brian Jones]
#28619464 - 01/13/24 07:49 AM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I’m judging that book myself he’s fucked in front of those suits.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: Nillion]
#28619985 - 01/13/24 04:31 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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Nillion said: I agree. Fentanyl has well known viable medical applications. It should not be schedule 1, which will only make it more profitable.
Changing the scheduling of a drug and increasing penalties for the use is already proven by history to not work as a way to decrease use. Rather it results in an increase of black market prices and make it more profitable to sell. It also ends harming addicts, prison doesn't help them. Most addicts who go to prison don't get better in terms of addiction. They get worse.
Making fent schedule 1 will hurt many lives. But it will not hurt the Cartels, it will increase their profits.
I have this opinion and can think of 6 people I knew and loved who are dead of opiate overdoses, many of them likely related to fent.
In my opinion fent is something that should only be used in a hospital or for the most extreme pain cases. The only reason I say that is starting at the top of the tolerance ladder leaves no room to go up, outside of a medical facility it's also dangerous to accurately dose. Where I think they're going wrong is controlling the rest of the opiates with a closed iron fist. Every single time they make it harder to get vicodin,percs,oxies,hydromorphone it takes people that would've just taken vicodin and has them doing heroin,Fake pressed pills etc all with fent in them. Or it drives them to fent itself just because it's so strong and so cheap. I don't think fent should be schedule 1 but I don't want people to be able to get that one prescribed.
Its quite literally like prohibition with alcohol. Doesn't do anything but cause people to drink bathtub booze and go blind or worse liquor poisoned by the US government.
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Re: Jelly Roll testimony concerning bill about Fentanyl [Re: Freedom]
#28628929 - 01/20/24 05:40 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Freedom said:
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This bill permanently places fentanyl-related substances as a class into schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act. A schedule I controlled substance is a drug, substance, or chemical that has a high potential for abuse; has no currently accepted medical value; and is subject to regulatory controls and administrative, civil, and criminal penalties under the Controlled Substances Act.
Taking this drug away from people who have a legitimate need for it is not going to do anything about it on the street. These are two different supply chains.
I worked with elderly people in chronic pain. I was there when the DEA got more strict about doctors prescribing opiates, and I watched people who were in their final years, in very bad pain lose access to something that gave them relief. I watched people in tortuous pain and there was nothing I could do.
I also had a friend with fibromyalgia who could only function with oxy. He spent two years trying to find a way to just be able to do normal things once in a while, and he decided to kill himself because he no longer had any way to function.
These articles are poorly written and confusing and keep reading like fentanyl is being banned, it's not
"fentanyl-related substances"
Are fentanalogs not fentanyl whose status in medicine will not change. This is good legislation IMO because when some super potent analogue hits the streets and kills a million people it takes time to ban, with this legislation its already banned before it even exists. It takes a while to ban a new RC, I'm fine with the Lysergamide and tryptamine analogs slipping by I don't like super powerful grey area opioids, at all. Carefentanil is pretty much a weapon of mass destruction this shit just shouldn't exist, besides the vet who needs to knock out an elephant I guess
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