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cubedryeguy
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28615527 - 01/09/24 05:21 PM (18 days, 20 hours ago) |
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: redgreenvines]
#28615531 - 01/09/24 05:24 PM (18 days, 20 hours ago) |
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redgreenvines said: are all those members in heaven now?
I guess sclorch is around cause the future is now now:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Sclorch was a long time poster who left The Shroomery for The Future. Smart move.

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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: cubedryeguy]
#28615533 - 01/09/24 05:27 PM (18 days, 20 hours ago) |
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cubedryeguy said: si=xqAhCFdoWTpSfaLA
Also time and existence could be infinitely old, never created
which is another inexplicable theory
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Rahz
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: Peopleschoice] 1
#28615632 - 01/09/24 07:03 PM (18 days, 18 hours ago) |
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Peopleschoice said: you can't have proof of something not existing. So the only thing this "god" has provided us is nothing whatsoever. We are left twiddling our thumbs. You can't prove non-existence of something only the existence of something.
I'm not a theist but there is a spot in the hierarchy of existence that could be named God. Everything exists therefore God exists.
This is still a very minimalist definition, cloaked in darkness. It sets the stage for all the craziness that comes from it so perhaps it's best not to invoke the word God. Buddhism is neither monotheistic or polytheistic. Buddhism is essentially atheistic yet still spiritual, depending on what one considers spiritual.
"Tantric meditational deities should not be confused with what different mythologies and religions might mean when they speak of gods and goddesses. Here, the deity we choose to identify with represents the essential qualities of the fully awakened experience latent within us. To use the language of psychology, such a deity is an archetype of our own deepest nature, our most profound level of consciousness. In tantra we focus our attention on such an archetypal image and identify with it in order to arouse the deepest, most profound aspects of our being and bring them into our present reality." (Introduction to Tantra: A Vision of Totality [1987], p. 42)
While I can't say all of Buddhism is thus, the Buddha himself said he was not a god and would not say there was a God.
It was the nature of belief he was avoiding. Better to say I do not know. But then knowing one doesn't know, one wants to know. One might search. When it comes to twiddling thumbs, one is waiting for an answer.
But the question itself is no different than the belief, the searching, the waiting. Made up. We have our own heads. We don't need to know if God has one or if there is a God. But if one is curious and supposes there's more to life than the mundane this could be discovered (revealed) without sacrificing one's logical integrity for belief and theism. The idea of revelation is not simply a matter of prophesy as the paragraph I quoted earlier will attest to in it's last sentence.
Consciousness and potential of the mind. No time for twiddling thumbs!
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: Rahz] 1
#28615664 - 01/09/24 07:40 PM (18 days, 17 hours ago) |
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I love how you put everything.
But I would still disagree that the first sentence doesn't make logical sense. There is no relationship between both of those sentences. God could just be another word for nature in that sense. But nature is not omnipotent which is a common argument, or all loving, etc.
Buddhism is a lot cooler than I thought. I never knew the buddha didn't believe in a god. I love duncan trussel but have only recently been diving into buddhism and spirituality.
I am no longer twiddling my thumbs! Thank you!
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: Peopleschoice]
#28615828 - 01/09/24 10:50 PM (18 days, 14 hours ago) |
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Ignore divine revelation at your own potentially eternal peril!
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: Alyssa] 1
#28615858 - 01/09/24 11:34 PM (18 days, 13 hours ago) |
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I do not think the Buddha would be that impressed with tantric practice. The Tibetan approach to wisdom combined Buddhism with local superstitions, monasticism, and politics. It is probably the most successful right wing totalitarian institution that has ever existed, and also possibly the gentle-est of that ilk.
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: redgreenvines]
#28615865 - 01/09/24 11:42 PM (18 days, 13 hours ago) |
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What can you say to a person who hasn't had the gift of God showing themselves to that person?
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: BrendanFlock]
#28615881 - 01/10/24 12:01 AM (18 days, 13 hours ago) |
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you have to ask them questions. maybe they saw something similar but called it something else.
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: whiterasta]
#28616044 - 01/10/24 07:05 AM (18 days, 6 hours ago) |
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redgreenvines said: are all those members in heaven now?
That's rather optimistic!
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: Nillion]
#28616051 - 01/10/24 07:12 AM (18 days, 6 hours ago) |
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many RIP's then dead, smitten, ungefucked, deceased
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: whiterasta]
#28616074 - 01/10/24 07:31 AM (18 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Pretty good chance, yeah.
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NoviceCultivator
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Re: Is atheism a form of spiritual retardation? [Re: wrestler_az]
#28622877 - 01/16/24 02:21 AM (12 days, 11 hours ago) |
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Look in the mirror you are the proof!
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