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I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. * 2
    #28615354 - 01/09/24 02:40 PM (19 days, 29 minutes ago)

My real estate broker/agent friend in california has a 20 acre off grid lot for me to stay at for free (as long as I invest in the land, I would only need to pay for my own things like propane, satellite, etc.) I'm not moving until 12 months, I have a lease on a shitty apartment in texas right now. The only thing there on the property now is an RV, a well, and a small bathroom. Water holding tanks and water pumps are being installed next week, eventually there will be solar and when I get there I will be "roughing it" a little bit but I'm going to have a tiny house built, plant crops, and eventually probably have a fully legal grow op and sell to dispensaries and individuals/medical patients. It's about 20 miles away from the nearest suburban area where there are grocery stores, a gym so I can take a shower, etc. My friend is going to be doing a lot of things in the meantime until I get there so it will be a little more "ready" for me.

Anyway, I'll need a nice shotgun to protect the property from trespassers. It's way easier and faster to buy a gun in texas so I figured I'd get a nice shotgun here. I wanted the mossberg shockwave but that's illegal in california because they don't allow short barrel shotguns (no matter what the atf classification is) because they are "easier to conceal." So I have to get a real shotgun.

I was looking at either the maverick 88, mossberg 500 retrograde (I love the dark walnut wood hardware), or the Winchester sxp defender marine. After quite some reading and videos, I decided on the 500 retro because it's way more durable than the 88 and a little bit better for hunting if I EVER want to get into hunting. And honestly I was already sold on the dark walnut wood, position of the safety clicker, and softer stock pad. I paid $440 for the gun and $20 for shipping to the ffl dealer. Strangely, there were no taxes. Just shipping to the ffl. Every other website was selling the same gun for at least $500-$600 before fees.

A lot of people complained about the trigger release breaking on the winchester so I said fuck that. Someone else also stated that the chrome is just some bullshit fake silver paint crap that looks cheap. I also don't think I would like the hand pump moving back after a shot is taken.

The maverick 88 would have been "good enough" for my use and especially a first gun, but I don't go for "good enough." I hope I won't ever have to use this on a person to defend myself but there is an outdoor range near where I will be living in california where I can practice at.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 3
    #28615406 - 01/09/24 03:19 PM (18 days, 23 hours ago)

If I lived somewhere I had to protect myself with a gun I'd just move. Doesn't sound like its worth it to me.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Freedom] * 6
    #28615410 - 01/09/24 03:26 PM (18 days, 23 hours ago)

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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Aiko Aiko] * 3
    #28615413 - 01/09/24 03:31 PM (18 days, 23 hours ago)

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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28615427 - 01/09/24 03:50 PM (18 days, 23 hours ago)

Why not an AK47 chambered in 7.62 NATO or 30-06 Win?

Even in Texas it doesnt get much more Get Off My Lawn than that.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Asante]
    #28615473 - 01/09/24 04:37 PM (18 days, 22 hours ago)

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If I lived somewhere I had to protect myself with a gun I'd just move. Doesn't sound like its worth it to me.



I honestly don't think I'll ever need to use it...but I will eventually have a grow op....so, ya know. And I also said that I might start hunting later on if I feel like it. I also said that I could practice and have fun at a range. So I mean, you can use a gun for more than just killing someone.

To be honest, I've been on the fence about gun rights for awhile because my step dad would watch these videos on guns, gun rights and gun laws and it sort of got me interested in guns and to be honest, if I'm a god damn american, I should buy a gun anyway because it's my god damn right. Plus it's way easier and faster in texas. In california, you have to take a gun class and do all this stuff just to buy a gun.

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Why not an AK47 chambered in 7.62 NATO or 30-06 Win?

Even in Texas it doesnt get much more Get Off My Lawn than that.



Do you know how many rifles are illegal in california? I don't even want to bother checking. I love the hand rack on a shotgun anyway and love the old style look of the walnut wood. I like being able to HEAR the gun getting a bullet into the chamber and it just sounds and looks sexy. I like the look of a shotgun anyway. And plus, I want a 12 gauge so that if I DO have to shoot a motherfucker, they will be DEAD so they can't come after me in civil court for their medical bills.

update: Oh ok, so there are ca legal ak47s but I heard they have a lot of KICK. No thanks for the recoil. I also don't really want a pistol grip.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28615479 - 01/09/24 04:42 PM (18 days, 22 hours ago)

I grew up with guns in a rural community, it was normal but almost exclusively used in hunting. In our community there wasn't much fear of intruders or a narritive around using guns for self protection or revolution. It was like how people talk about the old days, parking your truck with a gunrack and gun in the highschool parking lot and going hunting after school...


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Freedom]
    #28615488 - 01/09/24 04:47 PM (18 days, 22 hours ago)

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I grew up with guns in a rural community, it was normal but almost exclusively used in hunting. In our community there wasn't much fear of intruders or a narritive around using guns for self protection or revolution. It was like how people talk about the old days, parking your truck with a gunrack and gun in the highschool parking lot and going hunting after school...



Yeah, I really don't think I'll need to use it because it's an off grid location and nobody is going to go out of their way when they don't don't even know I'm there to begin with.

I bought it more just because of the videos my step dad would watch and so I just feel as an american I should be armed just because I can. If more people were armed and were allowed to carry, there would be less public muggings because people would be afraid of getting shot.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind] * 1
    #28615505 - 01/09/24 05:06 PM (18 days, 22 hours ago)

To me it would just escalate things. Pulling a gun out in a threatening way is just asking for someone to shoot me. Maybe I can shoot them faster then they can shoot me. In any case, it makes it much more likely someone will get shot. I'd rather be mugged than kill someone.

If lived and traveled in some dangerous places too, like Kashmir and south side Chicago. I think keeping your wits about you and using good judgement is the best protection.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Freedom]
    #28615584 - 01/09/24 05:59 PM (18 days, 21 hours ago)

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To me it would just escalate things. Pulling a gun out in a threatening way is just asking for someone to shoot me. Maybe I can shoot them faster then they can shoot me. In any case, it makes it much more likely someone will get shot. I'd rather be mugged than kill someone.

If lived and traveled in some dangerous places too, like Kashmir and south side Chicago. I think keeping your wits about you and using good judgement is the best protection.



It's 20 acres and has a no trespassing gate.

I would never show a weapon unless I planned to shoot immediately and I would only shoot if they came on the property and were obviously fucking around. Only put your finger on the trigger if you intend to shoot right then. I'd be able to see them at a distance and can make a judgement call. I'll probably have several hiding places in which I can use a gun to kill a threatening motherfucker. I mean, of course, I'm going to read up on all of california gun laws and WHEN you can actually legally shoot a motherfucker.

And I keep saying, this will most likely be used as a range toy more than anything else. I really don't think I'll ever have to shoot a motherfucker ever.

I'm not moving until 12 months anyway. Tomorrow I'm going to a range to shoot my first gun ever virgin style. Start with like a .22 and work my way up to a shotgun. See what the recoil is like and work on my stance. Not sure if I can do that all in a day but we'll see. I'm going with a couple cool coworkers.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28615674 - 01/09/24 07:56 PM (18 days, 19 hours ago)

Guns for home defense feels a bit intense but I can’t judge; id be nervous with a big grow too. 

I will say this: a kid where I’m from got shot and killed because he drove with his friends onto someone’s property in the boonies thinking it was the address of a party they were going to. 

No Trespassing signs aren’t always gonna keep someone from ending up on your property and then your perception of whether they are sketchy or not is what determines if they  get shot or not


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Psicomb]
    #28615678 - 01/09/24 08:04 PM (18 days, 19 hours ago)

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Guns for home defense feels a bit intense but I can’t judge; id be nervous with a big grow too. 

I will say this: a kid where I’m from got shot and killed because he drove with his friends onto someone’s property in the boonies thinking it was the address of a party they were going to. 

No Trespassing signs aren’t always gonna keep someone from ending up on your property and then your perception of whether they are sketchy or not is what determines if they  get shot or not





My ex had a white ford van and we were going camping. She went to get something and I got a call from her a little while later saying she pulled over to check her phone and a woman was holding her at gun point from another car because she 'looked suspicious'.

I called the cops and walked to where her car was. The woman left when the cops arrived. Then the cops wanted to search our van, and when they found out we were visiting from chicago started talking shit about democrats and how evil they were. I was upset that they were doing this after my girlfriend had just been held at gunpoint.

I don't trust gun advocates or cops lol.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Freedom]
    #28615683 - 01/09/24 08:14 PM (18 days, 18 hours ago)

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Guns for home defense feels a bit intense but I can’t judge; id be nervous with a big grow too. 

I will say this: a kid where I’m from got shot and killed because he drove with his friends onto someone’s property in the boonies thinking it was the address of a party they were going to. 

No Trespassing signs aren’t always gonna keep someone from ending up on your property and then your perception of whether they are sketchy or not is what determines if they  get shot or not





My ex had a white ford van and we were going camping. She went to get something and I got a call from her a little while later saying she pulled over to check her phone and a woman was holding her at gun point from another car because she 'looked suspicious'.

I called the cops and walked to where her car was. The woman left when the cops arrived. Then the cops wanted to search our van, and when they found out we were visiting from chicago started talking shit about democrats and how evil they were. I was upset that they were doing this after my girlfriend had just been held at gunpoint.

I don't trust gun advocates or cops lol.



I own my own property and own firearms. I don't think everyone should be carrying all the time. I've had my conceal carry licence forever and I've only carried maybe 2 times and that was a personal occurrence that my mother was helping somebody out of a bad relationship so I went with her and took one of my pistols, but other than rare situations like that I don't really think carrying a gun daily is necessary :shrug:


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #28615854 - 01/09/24 11:29 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

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Guns for home defense feels a bit intense but I can’t judge; id be nervous with a big grow too. 

I will say this: a kid where I’m from got shot and killed because he drove with his friends onto someone’s property in the boonies thinking it was the address of a party they were going to. 

No Trespassing signs aren’t always gonna keep someone from ending up on your property and then your perception of whether they are sketchy or not is what determines if they  get shot or not



I'll most likely get some sort of intercom and camera system once this thing gets going. I'm not just going to shoot a motherfucker. Especially in california when I need to make damn sure they're a threat before and if I shoot. I don't know how a whole car would jump a locked fence with a no trespassing sign but I would definitely scope people out, ask them what they're doing, tell them I live there and then ask them to leave. But honestly, nobody is going to find me.

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Guns for home defense feels a bit intense but I can’t judge; id be nervous with a big grow too. 

I will say this: a kid where I’m from got shot and killed because he drove with his friends onto someone’s property in the boonies thinking it was the address of a party they were going to. 

No Trespassing signs aren’t always gonna keep someone from ending up on your property and then your perception of whether they are sketchy or not is what determines if they  get shot or not





My ex had a white ford van and we were going camping. She went to get something and I got a call from her a little while later saying she pulled over to check her phone and a woman was holding her at gun point from another car because she 'looked suspicious'.

I called the cops and walked to where her car was. The woman left when the cops arrived. Then the cops wanted to search our van, and when they found out we were visiting from chicago started talking shit about democrats and how evil they were. I was upset that they were doing this after my girlfriend had just been held at gunpoint.

I don't trust gun advocates or cops lol.



A lot of people shouldn't own guns. I've been robbed at gun point myself. It happened when I was working for this jackasses marijuana delivery service when I went to the wrong neighborhood and nobody told me not to go. But what the fuck is the government/local law enforcement doing about black market guns?

I've read comments online of people who supposedly have lived in the projects or ghetto and a couple of them stated that one day they woke up and there was a box of guns just sitting in the street. They think it came from the CIA as a social experiment.

I mean, california writes their own gun laws but they don't do anything to prevent thugs and gangsters from getting guns. If anything, california is only perpetuating its own state's gun violence by making it harder to get a gun legally and easier to get it via black market.

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Guns for home defense feels a bit intense but I can’t judge; id be nervous with a big grow too. 

I will say this: a kid where I’m from got shot and killed because he drove with his friends onto someone’s property in the boonies thinking it was the address of a party they were going to. 

No Trespassing signs aren’t always gonna keep someone from ending up on your property and then your perception of whether they are sketchy or not is what determines if they  get shot or not





My ex had a white ford van and we were going camping. She went to get something and I got a call from her a little while later saying she pulled over to check her phone and a woman was holding her at gun point from another car because she 'looked suspicious'.

I called the cops and walked to where her car was. The woman left when the cops arrived. Then the cops wanted to search our van, and when they found out we were visiting from chicago started talking shit about democrats and how evil they were. I was upset that they were doing this after my girlfriend had just been held at gunpoint.

I don't trust gun advocates or cops lol.



I own my own property and own firearms. I don't think everyone should be carrying all the time. I've had my conceal carry licence forever and I've only carried maybe 2 times and that was a personal occurrence that my mother was helping somebody out of a bad relationship so I went with her and took one of my pistols, but other than rare situations like that I don't really think carrying a gun daily is necessary :shrug:



Exactly.

I had an old dealer in texas who had a legally owned rifle. I knew him well and I know he would never use it on me unless I pulled some super fast shit on him like trying to rob him literally. He lived in a nice house with his mom in a nice neighborhood. But he had the gun up against his wall where he always sat to weigh out the weed and put it in a bag.

I think a lot of people in texas are real big on gun safety, surprisingly and slightly ironically. As a native californian, I originally thought texans were crazy about their guns and they all just loved fucking shooting and killing each other. But it turns out, most people are crazy about gun safety and a lot of people are serious about having a good gun specifically for home defense.

Like I've said, I really don't think I'll ever need to use this on a person. I really just bought it "just in case" but mostly as a range toy and possibly maybe to use as hunting later on but mostly because I'm a god damn American exercising my 2nd amendment right to get a gun, and if there's a better time to get a gun, it's while I'm living in texas. I figure, I better buy a gun before I can't. I MIGHT buy a handgun later in the year but honestly, I don't know why, handguns scare me. It's hard to tell if they're loaded, it's hard to tell if it's unloaded. I feel like a shotgun is more straight forward and all you have to do is keep racking it until all the bullets fall out. My step dad's gun videos got me interested in guns and gun rights and I've been on the fence about gun rights for awhile now. And also, if people ever can't buy a gun, I will have one already.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28615859 - 01/09/24 11:34 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

Seems thought out and reasonable :salute:

I want a 10mm handgun for remote hiking and backpacking trips cuz mountain lions and bears the shit out of me


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Psicomb]
    #28615864 - 01/09/24 11:41 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

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Seems thought out and reasonable :salute:

I want a 10mm handgun for remote hiking and backpacking trips cuz mountain lions and bears the shit out of me



Would a good slug kill a bear from a 12 gauge?


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28615867 - 01/09/24 11:43 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

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Seems thought out and reasonable :salute:

I want a 10mm handgun for remote hiking and backpacking trips cuz mountain lions and bears the shit out of me



Would a good slug kill a bear from a 12 gauge?




Hmm yes probably would do the trick with the right slugs.  Bears are fuckin gnarly though


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Psicomb]
    #28615870 - 01/09/24 11:50 PM (18 days, 15 hours ago)

Is it legal to make your own ammo/cartridges in california? Is it cheaper to make your own ammo?


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Freedom] * 5
    #28616347 - 01/10/24 12:27 PM (18 days, 2 hours ago)

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If I lived somewhere I had to protect myself with a gun I'd just move. Doesn't sound like its worth it to me.



This type of thought process is akin to not wanting a fire extinguisher.



You are literally not safe anywhere on planet Earth.  Having a gun is a safety measure, like an airbag.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: PreparationH]
    #28616402 - 01/10/24 01:05 PM (18 days, 2 hours ago)

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If I lived somewhere I had to protect myself with a gun I'd just move. Doesn't sound like its worth it to me.



This type of thought process is akin to not wanting a fire extinguisher.



You are literally not safe anywhere on planet Earth.  Having a gun is a safety measure, like an airbag.





I don't think a firearm automatically makes you safer. I think it requires a lot of training and preparation. Like say an armed robber breaks into my house. Its not in their interest to kill me if I am unarmed, but if they see I'm armed, suddenly its very much in their interest to kill me. Then we can have a gun fight.

I think its very unlikely that someone will try to kill me and there will be a situation where having a gun and the training will help me.

Having a gun makes it more likely for people to kill themselves, and for domestic disputes turn into homicide.

I could see maybe for someone who trained in close quarters combat regularly, perhaps they might be safer, especially if they were a very stable person who never had thoughts or desires of suicide.

I think the time and energy spent training in CQB would be better put towards healthy eating, abstaining from alcohol, exercising regularly.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #28616408 - 01/10/24 01:12 PM (18 days, 1 hour ago)

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If I lived somewhere I had to protect myself with a gun I'd just move. Doesn't sound like its worth it to me.



This type of thought process is akin to not wanting a fire extinguisher.



You are literally not safe anywhere on planet Earth.  Having a gun is a safety measure, like an airbag.





We are entering a phase, be it Europe or the US where interruptions in the flow of society can initiate periods of lawlessness and mayhem.

it's sensible to have some sort of weapon at this point to protect your home and those in it.

I have an online friend for like 15 years who lives in Poland, while I live in Holland. We share Germany as our neighbor. He has Ukraine as his other neighbor. War is close by, our countries are smaller than many US states.

Its sensible to have a means of home defense.

I do.

I'm all about the love and peace, but also very much about being left in peace by haters. I was victimized enough in my life to prefer going out in ultraviolence over getting taken out by some numb fck.


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    #28616418 - 01/10/24 01:23 PM (18 days, 1 hour ago)

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If I lived somewhere I had to protect myself with a gun I'd just move. Doesn't sound like its worth it to me.



This type of thought process is akin to not wanting a fire extinguisher.



You are literally not safe anywhere on planet Earth.  Having a gun is a safety measure, like an airbag.





I don't think a firearm automatically makes you safer. I think it requires a lot of training and preparation. Like say an armed robber breaks into my house. Its not in their interest to kill me if I am unarmed, but if they see I'm armed, suddenly its very much in their interest to kill me. Then we can have a gun fight.

I think its very unlikely that someone will try to kill me and there will be a situation where having a gun and the training will help me.

Having a gun makes it more likely for people to kill themselves, and for domestic disputes turn into homicide.

I could see maybe for someone who trained in close quarters combat regularly, perhaps they might be safer, especially if they were a very stable person who never had thoughts or desires of suicide.

I think the time and energy spent training in CQB would be better put towards healthy eating, abstaining from alcohol, exercising regularly.




Yea, well, if a criminal breaks into a victim's property and the victim is willing to use lethal force, that's on the criminal for deciding their life is worth the shit inside the home when they are shot dead :shrug:.


I have seen enough news stories of someone who looks like they'd die from a bad cold killing a criminal, they're definitely not training lol.


Why does every gun thread have someone show up that doesnt support the OP?

If someone posts a car thread, it's all car enthusiasts.  Guns though, you always have one who needs to go against the original post lol


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: PreparationH]
    #28616585 - 01/10/24 04:18 PM (17 days, 22 hours ago)

Based. I also am thinking about how times are getting harder and economies are collapsing further. I can totally see the USA turning into Venezuela in like 10-20 years where you can't even leave your home without a gun.

The reason there's always someone in a gun thread going against the grain (or against the rifle thread lol) is because it's a fearful topic with many many opinions and it doesn't help that the media perpetuates fear of guns with all the false flag shootings we hear about.

And yeah, I don't think anyone will ever breech my house. And when it gets to the point where I need to be worried about trespassers, I could probably just pay a security guard to do it for me.

My gun will probably be used more as a range toy and hunting gun more than it will get used to kill someone.

I'm actually more worried about looters when we have big riots but at the same time, I will be 45 minutes away from any suburban town so I'm not really worried about it.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28616591 - 01/10/24 04:24 PM (17 days, 22 hours ago)

I also have a mossberg 590 retrograde. Shit slaps hard; it looks so sexy and the 12g packs a punch. I also have a Glock 20 as my woods gun after I spent 4 nights walking around Grizzly scat in August 2021 in British Columbia. Good choice on the mossberg!


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: Roflspammer]
    #28616600 - 01/10/24 04:31 PM (17 days, 22 hours ago)

I just wanted a versatile gun that's not cheap but not too expensive either and has good features. I like the dark walnut wood, I like the location of the safety clicker, the hand action seems pretty smooth on all the videos I've seen, good for home defense, good for shtf scenario, good for hunting.
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I also have a mossberg 590 retrograde. Shit slaps hard; it looks so sexy and the 12g packs a punch. I also have a Glock 20 as my woods gun after I spent 4 nights walking around Grizzly scat in August 2021 in British Columbia. Good choice on the mossberg!



What's the difference between the 500 and 590? I know it's more expensive which is why I wasn't looking at that one. How does the wood hold up to different weather and terrain? Is it glossy enough to withstand the elements?


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    #28617047 - 01/11/24 12:25 AM (17 days, 14 hours ago)

I scooped up a Mossberg 88 recently. No regret, dirt cheap, working man's shotgun.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: OutsideOfMyMind]
    #28617366 - 01/11/24 08:26 AM (17 days, 6 hours ago)

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if I'm a god damn american, I should buy a gun anyway because it's my god damn right.




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    #28617655 - 01/11/24 01:49 PM (17 days, 1 hour ago)

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if I'm a god damn american, I should buy a gun anyway because it's my god damn right.




You should marry a guy and play dominoes on Sunday too



Neither of those are in the Constitution but it is my goddamn right at least in the USA to marry a man and actually I do need to find myself a damn husband.


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    #28617679 - 01/11/24 02:05 PM (17 days, 1 hour ago)

There used to be provident farmers, under Communism, even in Ethiopia, who stored drought tolerant grains since times immemorial. It was called primitive accumulation, and it was a capital offense. The hoard would be pulled out into the street and burned.

So, prepping in liberal California is subject to the first rule of Fight Club.


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    #28617712 - 01/11/24 02:31 PM (17 days, 38 minutes ago)

Actually a lot more gays nowadays are starting to bear arms and buy guns to defend themselves. There's also groups of gay hunters that go out and hunt.


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    #28617715 - 01/11/24 02:35 PM (17 days, 33 minutes ago)

Tranny story hour was defended by their allies, snipers on adjoining rooftops. If you take these acts seriously or partake in them, don't use these people for bait dogs.


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    #28617716 - 01/11/24 02:38 PM (17 days, 31 minutes ago)

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Tranny story hour was defended by their allies, snipers on adjoining rooftops. If you take these acts seriously or partake in them, don't use these people for bait dogs.



I'm just a normal gay guy. I'm not a tranny. I'm not one of these new wave "queers" that they have nowadays.


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    #28617724 - 01/11/24 02:43 PM (17 days, 26 minutes ago)

:wonka:

A creative, or the one who tracks toilet paper out of the bathroom, with the poorly tucked shirt, and who doesn't know how to shave?


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    #28617747 - 01/11/24 03:15 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)

Creative i guess. I'm not dirty or slobby. I shave my ass hole so the shit doesn't stick onto the hair, making me do twice the work when wiping.


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    #28617751 - 01/11/24 03:25 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)

And, are you discreet or flaming at conservative, social functions?


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    #28617757 - 01/11/24 03:29 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)

I don't go to social functions. But I'm discreet.


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    #28617772 - 01/11/24 03:43 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)


Nobody should want to shoot you over what is not being used to undermine society, afaic.  :shrug:


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    #28617775 - 01/11/24 03:44 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)

What the hell has this thread turned into?


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    #28617779 - 01/11/24 03:49 PM (16 days, 23 hours ago)

There seems to be a moral dilemma in regards to what is necessary liberty vs. unnecessary libertinism.

A case of moral equivalences, in which preservation of one's physical person is on par with butt play.


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Re: I just got a Mossberg 500 Retrograde to bring back with me to california. [Re: durian_2008]
    #28618055 - 01/11/24 08:09 PM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

Amongst the people in my circle that I've talked to and in general, if you're talking about guns with a group of people in texas, there's always going to be at least one person who talks about guns in terms of home defense. ALWAYS, someone will be the one to say, "Oh that doesn't sound like it would be a good home defense gun...yada yada.." or conversely, "Oh that sounds like a good home defense gun yada yada...."

People in texas are big on home defense and castle law. Even when I went to a gunsmith to talk about guns, there was an older guy looking in the shop who said, "oh that doesn't sound like it would be a good home defense gun yeeeeeeeeee bla bla bla" when we were talking about the Mossberg shockwave. The gunsmith said it was a fine gun though. And I said that it looks like it would be a fun range toy because it sounds enjoyable to shoot from the hips, like a video game gun. Get your stance tight and put a recoil strap on it.


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    #28618077 - 01/11/24 08:32 PM (16 days, 18 hours ago)

~Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.~


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    #28618921 - 01/12/24 04:45 PM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

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Seems thought out and reasonable :salute:

I want a 10mm handgun for remote hiking and backpacking trips cuz mountain lions and bears the shit out of me



Someone on this thread said they carry a Glock 20 with them while hiking to protect against mountain lions and bears and that is a 10 mm handgun.


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    #28618945 - 01/12/24 05:03 PM (15 days, 22 hours ago)

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~Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.~



Hell yeah!!! I love the old time 1700s and 1800s muskets and shotguns.


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