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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Freedom]
#28597004 - 12/24/23 07:48 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28597074 - 12/24/23 08:40 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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bon voyagee have a great holiday
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Blue_Lux
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redgreenvines said: I am a bit concerned about the knocking over of a pile of blocks - a kind of bull-ish play behavior. should I be concerned when a 3 year old loves knocking things over, especially if asked not to do that.
yes
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I think bullies have deficiencies in terms of empathy and awareness that are nearly always acquired from their environments and experiences. The problematic behavior is learned but is also a result of conditioning. Most people can be reconditioned to develop better awareness and increased capacity empathy. However reconditioning a person rarely a matter of their own willpower or choice, it is a whole process and it requires coherent method and structure.
Most people who engage in bullying behavior end up disliking themselves. They have to pretend to be someone they are not and they say so plainly by voicing their fears in reverse. Bullying is basically like a type of war and like Sun Tzu said, war is based on deception, only in this case there is as much self-deception as anything. The bully insulting the intelligence of other people typically fears their own stupidity. Their own feelings about sexuality frequently give rise to things like homophobia and transphobia. At the root of all of this behavior is fear and typically bullies are taught, falsely, that fear is the same as respect.
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Nillion] 1
#28599768 - 12/27/23 12:27 PM (1 month, 1 day ago) |
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Nillion said:... typically bullies are taught, falsely, that fear is the same as respect.
This really resonates with me. brrrr arughh!
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Asante
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My playground my rules, dork! Just because you aren't awesome and feel sorry for yourself doesnt mean that I have to limit myself to your level just so you feel safe in your safespace.
I am just cool. Accept that and respect it.
What's all this talk about making me into someone i'm not?

redgreenlight, you're saying low self esteem but, projecting much? It takes a finer cut of character to be a bully, you can't just be shit and not get shit, you have to clearly be a better grade of person or it won't stick.
My playground, my way.
If you got more of that gum it's coming with me.
Gunnysix, you didnt spend your lunch money right?
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Asante]
#28599886 - 12/27/23 02:29 PM (1 month, 23 hours ago) |
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self esteem, high or low, is an attempt to put value on something priceless
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Asante
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Freedom] 1
#28599896 - 12/27/23 02:36 PM (1 month, 23 hours ago) |
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((for the record, i roleplayed an extraverted, grandiose bully in my earlier reply, not how I think))
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Asante]
#28599898 - 12/27/23 02:37 PM (1 month, 23 hours ago) |
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a bit like OCD? pausing to check the self esteem levels? then checking again in case it slips? who knows, I might have sprung an oil leak! surely my gaskets are not that dry.
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Asante
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Bullies often have traits on the machiavellian-narcissist-psychopath triad, i borrowed some narcissist ego inflation to add tongue in cheek flavor to the bully.
Bullies can be very full of themselves, even though that too is often an act.
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Asante] 2
#28600023 - 12/27/23 04:35 PM (1 month, 21 hours ago) |
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I'm full of myself too, but also I'm full of others, mostly I'm pretty empty, but I feel full from Christmas.
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Who’s Christmas are you full from?
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Rahz]
#28600084 - 12/27/23 05:26 PM (1 month, 20 hours ago) |
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family - 70% christian
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28615211 - 01/09/24 12:38 PM (19 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Bus Monitor Karen Klein bullied by vile school children
^ Difficult to put into words how I feel when I watch this video, but it's the perfect example of bullying: The strong and young attacking the weak and old.
I never trusted the human race. Always used condoms and pull out method, back when I was able to have sex. Now a days I'm isolated and without companionship. It doesn't seem like sexual intercourse is even an option for me these days, and when I see people having families I don't know what to say to them other than, good luck, but I think you belong to a species too flawed to deserve reproduction.
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Cory Duchesne said: Bus Monitor Karen Klein bullied by vile school children
^ Difficult to put into words how I feel when I watch this video, but it's the perfect example of bullying: The strong and young attacking the weak and old.
I never trusted the human race. Always used condoms and pull out method, back when I was able to have sex. Now a days I'm isolated and without companionship. It doesn't seem like sexual intercourse is even an option for me these days, and when I see people having families I don't know what to say to them other than, good luck, but I think you belong to a species too flawed to deserve reproduction.
when I look back at my life, its both discrete moments and a continuous flow. The good times flow into bad times which flow into good times again.
and so it is with this story,
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After the bullies' identities were revealed, they received many death threats.[2] The video prompted an investigation on the part of school officials and local police.[8] Klein stated that she would not press charges against the students, partly because of the flood of death threats and criticism aimed at them.[9] She also stated she would like an apology and a different bus route.[10] When an apology was issued, however, she rejected it as insufficient.[11]
On June 29, 2012, the Greece Central School District announced that the boys would be suspended from the middle school for one full academic year, and each boy would also be required to complete 50 hours of community service with senior citizens and complete a formal program in bullying prevention.[12]
On his show Anderson Cooper 360°, CNN anchor Anderson Cooper announced that Southwest Airlines offered to pay for a trip for Klein and nine people of her choice to Walt Disney World for a three-night visit.[13] Klein responded, "It does make me feel a whole lot better. I appreciated everything. I think it's awesome."[13]
Soon after the video went viral, Max Sidorov, a Ukrainian immigrant living in Toronto who says he had been a victim of bullying as a child, started a campaign at fundraising site Indiegogo with a goal of $5,000, to help give Klein a vacation and posted it to Reddit.[14][15] Within a few days of its creation, the fund had surpassed half a million dollars, and by June 25, over $650,000.[16] An Indiegogo spokesperson stated that the website was in touch with Klein, who would receive the money raised by the scheduled end of the fundraiser on July 20, 2012.[17] When the campaign ended on July 20, Klein's campaign had received a total of $703,833.[18] Klein stated that she planned to use $100,000 of the earnings to establish the Karen Klein Anti-Bullying Foundation, as part of the GiveBack Foundation.[18]
On July 27, 2012, Klein announced that she planned to retire as a bus monitor, calling it "a tough decision".[19]
I was abused as a child, and had fear which the other children picked up on and used to bully me in a similar way. That forced me to deeply contemplate my self, my psychology and those around me. Eventually that led me to have a much greater understanding of myelf and others than I would have otherwise, and this helps me everywhere I go.
When I look at the whole of good and bad flowing into each other, the whole has a beauty and magnificence to it that I deeply appreciate, and this magnificence depends on both the good and bad.
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Blue_Lux
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