Home | Community | Message Board

MushroomCube.com
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: Agency, Who is the doer? [Re: syncro] * 4
    #28617153 - 01/11/24 04:00 AM (17 days, 3 hours ago)

trace back where the question originated from right to the very tippity top of its branches and down to the very most bottom of its roots, then cut them all off and see what remains; regardless of how fanned out things might get, or, of how far apart they might seem, eventually you'll hit the tap of seemingly nothing but something in which is everything & in which everything is contained of as emptiness (in a manner of speaking, but, note - the term itself is highly misleading).

To have a chance at finding it as leading to nowhere beyond the here and now, beyond oneself, whereby one is already present at by the very means by which nothing but pure presence unifying everything can be found as the same as that which is both as what there is to cognize as that as which is being recognized, as that which is the same unity multiplied of its own vast potentiality from having no beginning and knowing no end?

So much power is so enormous it cannot but stand out of itself without anything helping it outside of itself to give it a hand.
Nevertheless, meanwhile, everything is everywhere all at once, everyplace is in space, all space is ever expanding infinitary openness, like the eternal phoenix triumphant, the buddha's sly smile while simply referring to suchness as the non-absolute nature of emptiness, a real illusion - even that isn't it, just a simile or metaphor, analogy, something to compare it with which to contrast it with.

Moreover; and, as such, as to the above, 'it' - this question - as to 'doing' is purely naturally of a nature of which its own nature ultimately is unconditionally 'deathless'.

Its funny you know?  "The Big Bang" ...
Oh, you mean, something just burst and over time particles collided across timelessness itself just to diffuse itself like an ocean without a planet like a planet without a solar system, like a solar system without a galaxy, like a galaxy without a cosmic system -  only to express those very things itself, without ever doing a thing but for something akin to a dream dreaming dreamers also capable of dreaming endlessly with a visa granted via the very enchantment of its own luster putting itself into a delusive sleep, in essence, allowing ignorance, which in turn, allows for everything?  Without ignorance, there is no awareness, without awareness there is neither perception nor non perception.  Without perception nor non perception there is but pure absence of all form - with the absence of all form there is emptiness, with emptiness there is emptiness of even itself - hence - the true nature of things being empty also entailing that the nature of said nature is of a non-absolute emptiness, allowing for something, rather than absolute voidness of all actuality in there would not even be reality?  Its primal nondual awareness of oneself and all else as completely intra-interwovenness as plucked by causality of its own doings from becoming forever for all eternity.


But for the eyes, the ears, the noses, the mouths, and arms, how else can something beyond even magic itself not notice this suchness? 

without something else for reference is telling of itself....as...telling of itself as placeless.

I like calling it the primordial mind, but who cares what one calls it, it has no name, lmao.  my brain structure will function to predict solutions for any and everything it can possibly get its grubby little mitts into, once you dip the tip into infinity's hole, you'd best be damned sure you're double strapped or ready to become aware of a likeness to an all-father, all-mother, all-family, all-in-all, all at once, always already together forever for an eternity chilling out so hard it energetically condenses to a point until merging virtually itself anew before bursting again and so on and so forth.  Matter, compounded matter comprised of more basic particulate, as interaction via spacetime's waveletting of light and gravity and other forces upon the world of subatomics; and, further beyond the quantum even, lies nothing but more unlimitedness - the mark of what's already always unbegotten having always already gotten there before you find it, as how can something omnipresent and so omnidirectionally spread infinitely about not always already all potentialities expressing the phenomenon by which something can even come to know of a reality via that something's energy's essentially being the ultimate kingpin of transformation itself?

Also, the aforementioned, as in right here and now itself, is telling itself about how things in general cannot be, or do, or be, or work  - in other words - Constancy of Change = Transformation.  If not for all things in tandem with every other thing else in general also doing the same, too, then how else could things be, let alone change in order to become what they inevitably be as pure sport-like loving spontaneity? 

In short...

No need for there to be a doer and or an agent, simultaneously, No need for there not to be a doer ageing stuff as an agent of the agency of change!...(ha)...but we may as well enjoy being for with it we've been enabled to seem like we are as we seem anyways, at least, for the duration of time of an awareness being such as it is embodied energy of the primordial good-goody-god in whatever the form it is as expressed as, with, by, and or through as you, I, and all sentient lifeforms.

ps.  i'm pretty darn exhausted and I'm aware of some technical difficulties and a series of hiccups made throughout my post. Apologies if that makes it difficult to understand, not to mention I perhaps waxed a bit too thicc with the poetic, but, with that said, I do hope the root of the question you asked will be found at some time within the now, as resoundingly so, while not looking outside of what's always within you & you within it. 

So long as the gist is crisp enough for you to grokk ~ t'sall more or less, good fun, for goodness itself, and as such, my post will have been made basically good, and, if so, then thank goodness.

Slightly entertaining to entertain pondering these sorts of things, right?  I've no claim to absolute truth, I merely let this post flow of vision like artistry to express what I cannot help but suggest of what's been ingested of mind through the senses wandering about without warning.  Whether fishing for feedback, of genuine curiosity, or out of compassion to aid another ~ even if at times, technically wrong, or, sometimes totally out of bounds, :lol:... how else can I forge myself, learn critically, while aware without seeing how I do without testing my ignorance thoroughly?

Hopefully, what becomes of it is like an elixir of wisdom worth truly pouring.  It's not quite there yet, despite having been a long time coming, and, no matter how long or short the one's life seems to be, what is worthwhile beyond goodness, wisdom, & tempered compassion to one's relative situation as per one's incomplete knowledge of understanding all the facts, something which whenever looking back, seems to thrive on ever more than before?  Verily accumulating experience seemingly manifesting as such so as to be pointed untoward?

Well, maybe at another time we can go at it again.
To exchange ideas, compare, stare, dare, and a bit more - just not this morning... b/c i'm too tired to edit & revise...despite the wall of shit I now stare at as my workplace begins calling, oh me, oh my, oh goodness gracious...:lol::popcorn:  :thumbup:


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
InvisibleThe Blind Ass
Bodhi
I'm a teapot User Gallery


Registered: 08/16/16
Posts: 26,657
Loc: The Primordial Mind
Re: Agency, Who is the doer? [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28631591 - 01/22/24 11:28 PM (5 days, 7 hours ago)

A few days ago, while attempting to turn into some quickly moving, bustlingly flow of heavy traffic, an intuition mixed with emotion and notion along with the accompanying of being smack dab in the midst of a genuine (when aren't we, rly tho?) & imminently sensed  life or death situation looming overhead. Simply from cptsd just turning into a lane with hardly any room to squeeze in with the heavy flow of a near-stream of vehicular traffic in the way I needed to head at the time.  At the time things seemed for a short moment quite surreal; as if, we were in some permutation of the og labyrinth of the entirety of another sort of virgina still following that initial prime directive or something to that efx.

With some or all the vehicles & their drivers (self included) somewhat as if but haphazardly chaotic yet sperm squirming about  swimming blindly making up the flow as we go furthermore running headlong into whatever the gauntlet of prezygotic barriers lay in wait in order to defend from least able of the swimmers, and, so those that made it to their prize might be first to fully penetrate and fertilize a (symbolic) ripe ovum.  :shrug:

Then something dawned, nothing profound but it was hearty  in nature, one might could say we are alive here now? Then in a manner of speaking, we've already become stream winners - maybe just not in the way of the sotapanna. Either way, I thought, in some ways things haven't changed all too much, even though they have in some ways, on both the 'first in flight' to the egg (and passes the prezygotic exams barrier(s), etc) on that front.

One wants in, the other one wants out.
(sort of, i think that's an oversimplification of things putting it rather crudely)
And, with the latter once like approx. one(half) of the former.

Streaming in, and, streaming out.
Regardless of which - neither of each - Despite if winning or if losing, really do all that much, but there's more to it than that, but in a busy city where it can seem like so many are simultaneously are running around like chickens with their heads cut off going around & around until arriving at their 'destination' - more or less like so - until finally we eventually don't have to any longer.  I found it a refreshing relief overall, and even more so once finally returning safely back home to where the balance between relative peace, quite,  & harmony was appreciated (as per usual) once again, only a tid bit differently than the usual anew. Netti-Netti.

Anywho, and there's some randoms observation made of a tiniest slice of a moment in time during a day in the life.


--------------------
Give me Liberty caps -or- give me Death caps


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* There is no escape from Samsara
( 1 2 all )
Piecefillpath247 2,382 23 12/12/13 02:40 PM
by g00ru
* There is no doer
( 1 2 3 all )
mt cleverest 2,457 43 02/07/15 11:12 PM
by DividedQuantum
* a mirror to reflect the most essential - longchenpa deff 750 7 06/06/12 06:44 PM
by deff
* Afflicted with voodoo
( 1 2 all )
Happinessfeeling 1,040 33 08/24/18 08:30 AM
by Happinessfeeling
* Samsara KickleM 684 7 07/26/12 02:00 PM
by Kickle
* What is the allure of Samsara? nicechrisman 2,747 19 10/18/12 12:30 AM
by soldatheero
* Samsara Trailer (Documentary 2012) c0sm0nautt 765 7 08/05/12 09:29 AM
by c0sm0nautt
* Samsara is a bitch sometimes
( 1 2 all )
zZZz 3,928 37 02/27/11 04:23 PM
by Icelander

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, Shroomism, Rose, Kickle, yogabunny, DividedQuantum
1,016 topic views. 1 members, 5 guests and 6 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.02 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 15 queries.