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syncro
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Re: What is yoga? [Re: syncro]
#28612499 - 01/07/24 01:45 AM (21 days, 5 hours ago) |
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Or it wasn't so much that fearlessness in that moment brought non-agency, but that the latter, I am not the doer, brought fearlessness, and non-attachment, and they did not imply a non-enjoyer, but enjoyment freed up, opened.
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syncro
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Re: What is yoga? [Re: syncro]
#28612547 - 01/07/24 03:24 AM (21 days, 3 hours ago) |
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We may wonder why it is we do what we do, and if sitting in that emptiness thing, I observed myself, the body and external life going about its business without 'me'. Contemplating agency is very weird.
Edited by syncro (01/07/24 06:57 AM)
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Re: What is yoga? [Re: syncro]
#28612765 - 01/07/24 08:40 AM (20 days, 22 hours ago) |
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I happened upon a live q&a, satsang, with Swami Tadatmananda, and was on the fence to put it on, and when I finally did, he was addressing a question on agency. 
He mentioned that Brahman has no agency but is only the pure undifferentiated consciousness, and said his teacher would joke that 'Brahman is good for nothing' that is, in a worldly sense.
This is turning out pretty good.
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#28612770 - 01/07/24 08:46 AM (20 days, 22 hours ago) |
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It's a great relief, although can be scary too
also it seems we have to relaearn motivation, that a lot of our activity in the world relates to this imaginary thing at an imaginary center ("me") and when that loses its grip then what is the motive?
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Re: What is yoga? [Re: Freedom]
#28612811 - 01/07/24 09:39 AM (20 days, 21 hours ago) |
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And yet there is some great motive of life as it appears, including that which is of the Guru or Bodhisattvic nature, and the nature of the disciple to meet it. From a perspective, all our desires are doing that as all of them seek freedom, in ignorant ways or not, and their motivations are to address them, fulfill or complete them.
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Re: What are the yogas? [Re: syncro]
#28613162 - 01/07/24 03:34 PM (20 days, 15 hours ago) |
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I hijacked the title a bit as yoga can have an unfortunate, superficial connotation, and there are various branches. Better would be, what is sanatan dharma, what is sadhana...?
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Yogapedia Explains Sanatana Dharma
The concept of spiritual freedom is an integral part of sanatana dharma. The term isn't exclusively applied to the Hindu religion: Rather, it is a set of timeless values that help us fulfill our potential and understand the flow and order of the universe. Sanatana dharma places spiritual experiences above religious issues and uses yoga practice to reach moksha.
Indeed, it could be said that yoga offers a practical and consistent means of adding sanatana dharma to anyone's life. It is considered to be more rooted in experience than belief or ideology, and inclusive of all because of its applicability to people in all places and at all times.
Some see the term sanatana dharma as a more accurate term than Hinduism, in part because the sanatana dharma is without sectarian or ideological divisions. It is, therefore, still used by some Hindu leaders to refer to Hinduism, portraying it as the unified religion of all.
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The term sadhana comes from the Sanskrit root, sadhu, meaning “go straight to a goal”. Routinely applying mind, body and spirit in the pursuit of a spiritual goal is the most natural and efficient way to surrender the ego, to find relief from suffering and to attain peace.
For this reason, sadhana is the cornerstone of the discipline of yoga. Yoga provides a huge variety of tools for this purpose, ranging from physical practices, such as asana (postures) and pranayama (breathing techniques), to more introspective applications, such as svadhyaya (self-study) and meditation.
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AnattaAtman
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solarshroomster said: So... with that, what is yoga?
I think Yoga is a path to enlightenment. Akin to martial arts, most people in the west seem to practice for fitness. That is very sad indeed, because that is entirely not what it's about. The highest bullshit practice of that kind is called "Power Yoga".
Check out Aleister Crowley's take on Yoga:
https://hermetic.com/crowley/eight-lectures-on-yoga/index
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spinvis
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solarshroomster said: Some people have seemed to recently take offense by my recent shade towards yoga. For those who have been hurt by my words, I'm sorry. The issue I've faced in my life is that a lot of these spiritual things seem so stupid on the surface, that I can't take it seriously (again, at first blush.) One of those things was mysticism. I thought it was stupid until I actually did it and it "clicked". So, I'm just wondering if I'm doing it with my initial, biased thoughts against yoga? So... with that, what is yoga? What am I missing?
I. K. Taimni, Iqbal Kishen; Patañjali - The Science of Yoga: The Yoga-Sutras of Patañajli - SECTION I. SAMĀDHI PĀDA;
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Atha Yogānuśāsanam.
now; herewith (of) Yoga expounding; exposition (teaching).
1. Now, an exposition of Yoga.
Highly recommended (The Yoga-Sutras of Patañajli) reading material btw! Also you could for example check the following thread by yogabunny called Yoga 101
Next to that maybe check out
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History of Yoga, the Path of my Ancestors is a 6000 year journey into origin, evolution & development of yoga. The story explores the elements of Yoga in Harappa Civilization, Veda, Jainism, Buddhism, Sufism, Hath-Yogic practices of medieval times & other peripheral doctrines. The film ends in 19th century where modern science acknowledges the potential of yoga in a new light.
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