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OfflineJim I.T.I
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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Nillion]
    #28602205 - 12/29/23 12:07 PM (29 days, 20 hours ago)

yes to both your thoughts. i've seen a lot of discussion from other groups regarding RCs in the amanita gummies...and delta 8, i also assume the extracts are mostly low amounts of muscimol as including ibotenic could be a real liability at any quantity.

regarding amanita, i've had quite a bit of experience with them. though they don't make you see fractals, breathing walls and swirling carpets...they will cause a total time dilation, thoughts and events happening before and after simultaneously, depth and scale perception shifts not knowing how big or far or near things are, lucid dreaming and visions + a total disociative state in the macro range...IMHO that's psychedelic AF. if you try them, use the real fruit. no vendor extracts. and learn how to prepare (decarb) them. too much ibotenic acid and you'll puke. start with a low dose the first time. like .5g dry. then start making decarbed teas at maybe 2g dry first don't jump in at 10-20g (dry)or a bunch of raw ones or you'll add to those nightmare death puking shit your pants reports that dominate the interwebs. just like with cubes. start low, go slow, find your own depth. they will reward you for a respectful approach. i love them just as much as cubes but for different reasons. they have many uses at different doses.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: andyjones]
    #28602264 - 12/29/23 12:55 PM (29 days, 19 hours ago)

Thank you for the advice!
I will keep it in mind if I decide to experiment with Amanita.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Nillion]
    #28602274 - 12/29/23 01:02 PM (29 days, 19 hours ago)

They’re more GABA than anticholinergic aren’t they?


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OfflineJim I.T.I
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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Bardy]
    #28607109 - 01/02/24 01:31 PM (25 days, 18 hours ago)

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Bardy said:
They’re more GABA than anticholinergic aren’t they?




Yes, Muscimol is a GABA agonist. however, i've never had the crazy visionary time distorting changes in scale/depth perception mixed with lucid dreaming and dissociation from alcohol or a benzo :wink: IMHO people who say amanita is not psychedelic have not done them right :smile:


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28609249 - 01/04/24 08:11 AM (24 days, 14 minutes ago)

Z-drugs are a benzo like class of GABA agonists that sometimes people hallucinate on.

I just learned this reading wikipedia as I had no idea that amanita was primarily a GABA agonist (and I've taken pharmacology classes that covered choline receptors).

Now I'm interested in playing with it.  I tripped on jimson weed in my twenties and have no interest in anticholinergics, so have avoided amanita based on this misunderstanding.


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For whom?
You are loved.
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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: tree frog]
    #28612207 - 01/06/24 07:49 PM (21 days, 12 hours ago)

Well, i'm not the end all source of knowledge for amanita, but i've experimented a considerable amount with amanita muscaria from micro dosing to macro and how to get there.

Ive had a good 10 experiences now with amanita pantherina which is kinda like the PE of the Amanita world. much more potent and higher muscimol profile from the start. 4 of the 10 experiences were macro doses. and, wow. panther potion is no joke.

dosing is different for everyone. some more some less. so if you start, i recommend getting some amanita muscaria. dry it cracker dry. for your first ever micro dose, take .25g. see how it treats you. next day do the same. then titrate to find when you feel it. and thats Ibotenic acid. for me it's at .5g i know it was eaten. i can't eat more than 1.5g dry g without the Ibo starting giving nausea. i think amanita requires a relationship. some report reverse tolerance where less does more. i believe i've experienced this from slow build up in my system. like micro dose for 2 weeks of .5g dry cap, 3-5 days a week, then do a macro dose that's 10-15g "full" decarb (low ph simmer 3hrs, covered. keep an eye on it)

to give a pantherina warning. full decarb of 3g was a more powerful experience than a full decarb of 15g muscaria. oof! becareful!

if you want any opinions on experimenting, pm me. i can help you start low but you have to find your own depth as everyone swims differently :smile:


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