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OfflineTyperwritermonky
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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii *DELETED* [Re: GaiaOne]
    #28611788 - 01/06/24 02:01 PM (21 days, 19 hours ago)

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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28611801 - 01/06/24 02:15 PM (21 days, 19 hours ago)

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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: Towns77]
    #28611827 - 01/06/24 02:47 PM (21 days, 18 hours ago)

Did you put those mushrooms in the same bag as the actives? It almost looks like some of the blue pigment rubbed off onto those caps


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28611833 - 01/06/24 02:59 PM (21 days, 18 hours ago)

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Typerwritermonky said:
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GaiaOne said:
No I can't. I can merely speculate that there is some faint blue bruising possible in pic below.  But that could from pans handled.

Have defrosted one frozen "specimens" and there is only brown juice, no other colors really.






I see that too, but inactive species bruise mildly blue as well.  You can easily solve this debate immediately by ordering a psilocybin presence test and testing for it.

Miraculix makes a test kit you can order today and test for psilocybin content and prove your findings objectively true or false.  Please do this, I'm sure people are interested albeit fairly skeptical.  So getting objective data helps us see more than your empirical reports.


Also never understimate the placebo effect - I thought I found san pedro cacti once.  Prepped and brewed and took it and felt mildly high, like I took .5g of mushrooms.  But it wasn't san pedro, it was completely inactive, but I still felt something.




I would say applying the miraculix test is unnecessary in this case, at least at this point in the
identification process, since we can find out whether it's an active species or not if certain other
criteria are met, than just bluing. That would be spore print color as well as other macrocharacteristics, and also
microcharacteristics and eventually a DNA sequence.

As far as I know there are neither any inactive gilled species that actually bruise blue, rather
there are some that have blue tones inherently, which also tend to fade with time - unlike the
bruising in actives which increase rather than diminish.

Apart from that, I don't believe this discussion can go much further without more pictures and information.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: Anglerfish]
    #28617580 - 01/11/24 12:38 PM (16 days, 21 hours ago)

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kateastrophy said:
Wanting something to be what you believe it to be can be dangerous my friend, admire your dedication but there's no traits leaning towards psilocybe cubensis other than a superficially similar coloration to the top of the cap.
If you are intent on discovering a new species probably best not to try to force it into a group based on bias and longing. You might miss the real story.
Give your observations a true objectivness and see what you find.
Good luck, but please I implore you to stop eating unidentified shrooms, too dangerous unfortunately, and not a good message for others.




Feel it was performed w sincere objectivism. Serious risk, aware of the sheer amount of pure idiocy. This was not a one time thing, I know it's a big claim.

Yes I was, am still, totally excited. It would be nice to have a different strain, even a regular edible. Plenty of blue pans. Apologies didn't mean to force it on here Excited for interaction and thankful for suggestions either way.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28617636 - 01/11/24 01:34 PM (16 days, 20 hours ago)

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Typerwritermonky said:
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GaiaOne said:
No I can't. I can merely speculate that there is some faint blue bruising possible in pic below.  But that could from pans handled.

Have defrosted one frozen "specimens" and there is only brown juice, no other colors really.






I see that too, but inactive species bruise mildly blue as well.  You can easily solve this debate immediately by ordering a psilocybin presence test and testing for it.

Miraculix makes a test kit you can order today and test for psilocybin content and prove your findings objectively true or false.  Please do this, I'm sure people are interested albeit fairly skeptical.  So getting objective data helps us see more than your empirical reports.


Also never understimate the placebo effect - I thought I found san pedro cacti once.  Prepped and brewed and took it and felt mildly high, like I took .5g of mushrooms.  But it wasn't san pedro, it was completely inactive, but I still felt something.




Thx found the Miraculix test ordered it. Didnt know or else probs would have done that first,  at least lmao.

I'm considering placebo. I sat and stared at the stupid brown juice questioning life.  I considered a poisoning. Can a poisoning feel like an active, like a low dose poisoning. Would think there'd be pain or discomfort and not just fun feels......
Also made me think of the chorophyllum molybdites for example is extremely poisonous to most, and yet some people go totally unharmed.


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: Moria841]
    #28617684 - 01/11/24 02:07 PM (16 days, 19 hours ago)

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Moria841 said:
Did you put those mushrooms in the same bag as the actives? It almost looks like some of the blue pigment rubbed off onto those caps




In the same container for 15mins so I cant be sure. Also by being handled


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: GaiaOne]
    #28624092 - 01/16/24 10:24 PM (11 days, 11 hours ago)

Free DNA barcoding is available to anyone anywhere nowadays, you just have to make an Inaturalist observation, dry the sample, and mail it in to the Ohio mushroom DNA lab. Follow these instructions on their protocol document.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nSKlouFy1Z3OXbCf2cWiKH0hkDnFKZvPn6_oCr3vEK0/edit

you should send a sample in!


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Re: Psilocybe cubensis Found in Hawaii [Re: GaiaOne] * 2
    #28626999 - 01/19/24 10:21 AM (8 days, 23 hours ago)

If you can spare one of those brown prints I can do microscopy on them. That would at least confirm or rule out if they are Psilocybe vs Agrocybe.


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