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Services which request tips - 2024 plan 1
#28609454 - 01/04/24 12:49 PM (24 days, 2 hours ago) |
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I was going over our finances last year and realized that we spent a significant of money just tipping for services. This included services where I placed an order to pick something up and still tipped even though really I was the one doing the legwork. Or tipping for someone performing a service that 5 years ago you wouldnt have tipped for (picking up a packaged container and buying it at the checkstand, ordering fast food, etc..)
I am not necessarily anti-tipping, but do realize that to cost of tipping has increased significantly by relation to the cost of service provided, including dinners out. Also the opportunity to tip has increased significantly. This is due to changes on receipts which allow a tip section, or electronic screen payment technology that by default asks the payor to include a 15% + tip. Then there are the services which automatically calculate and charge for a tip - we had an incidence where we placed a pick up order for pizza, and didnt realize until I got home with the pizza that they had automatically charged me a $7 tip (on a $40 order). All of this, at least I have noticed, has squeezed additional money out of our accounts, and that is in addition to inflationary costs over the past two years, which have not been offset by wage increases for our family.
So my goal this year is to keep track of all those situations where I do tip, to get an understanding of the true dollar amount I spend on tips. Ill just have a google docs spreadsheet and throw the number in there whenever it happens. I think part two of this is rather than have to decide to tip something, or tip $0 to when that 'Would you like to tip' option comes up, I am just going to avoid going to those places, and opt to eat at places without that instead.
Any thoughts on this stuff?
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
#28609481 - 01/04/24 01:27 PM (24 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Last year I got an emissions test for my car and got the tip flip. That made me reflect pretty hard on how often I was unconsciously hitting the tip X% buttons even for quick service type stuff.
I just avoid food delivery entirely. If I'm in line getting food somewhere I might tip $1. At a sit-down restaurant I'll tip between $5-$10, but am not concerned with whatever percentage of anything. If I'm getting drinks at a bar, which I rarely do anymore, I'll tip $1 per drink or so. Haircut I'll tip $7-12 though.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH]
#28609489 - 01/04/24 01:35 PM (24 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Thanks for posting this. It’s something I’ve been thinking about lately, as well. I like the idea of boycotting, but I also feel like it’s going to get more and more difficult to avoid those businesses. For example, the local pet store in my area now solicits tips when using digital payment. And it’s really the only place available to get what I need without going through a lot of time and trouble. I can just pay cash instead, which I try to do, but a lot of businesses are also trying to get away from cash transactions. Most the Home Depots in my city, for example, have limited self check out to cards only, so you have to go to the contractor side to pay cash. Our baseball stadium went completely cashless a couple years ago. No vendors can accept cash. This is also a trend at concert venues, such as Red Rocks. Now you got me wanting to keep track of tips this year.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
#28609520 - 01/04/24 02:28 PM (24 days, 40 minutes ago) |
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Tipping is a scam. Everyone should be paid a living wage.
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I always look them dead in they eye and press skip
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: spirit_shadow]
#28609682 - 01/04/24 04:57 PM (23 days, 22 hours ago) |
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Round up pisses me the fuck off
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No, I would like to round down.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
#28609790 - 01/04/24 06:21 PM (23 days, 20 hours ago) |
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
#28609822 - 01/04/24 07:02 PM (23 days, 20 hours ago) |
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I never mind tipping I always do it I just worry about whether I'm suppose to or not which doesn't happen often.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn] 2
#28609840 - 01/04/24 07:16 PM (23 days, 19 hours ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Last year I got an emissions test for my car and got the tip flip. That made me reflect pretty hard on how often I was unconsciously hitting the tip X% buttons even for quick service type stuff.
I just avoid food delivery entirely. If I'm in line getting food somewhere I might tip $1. At a sit-down restaurant I'll tip between $5-$10, but am not concerned with whatever percentage of anything. If I'm getting drinks at a bar, which I rarely do anymore, I'll tip $1 per drink or so. Haircut I'll tip $7-12 though.
Yeah, that emissions test is just bonkers. 
As for tipping, this is basically what I do. But nowadays, I try to just avoid places that ask for tips cause I am just that broke at the moment. The whole tipping culture is just getting out of hand....
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#28609865 - 01/04/24 07:44 PM (23 days, 19 hours ago) |
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Next time someone asks me for a tip I'm gonna ask them if they want just the tip.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH]
#28609939 - 01/04/24 09:08 PM (23 days, 18 hours ago) |
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I tip wait staff, and hairdressers.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: loladoreen] 2
#28609951 - 01/04/24 09:30 PM (23 days, 17 hours ago) |
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I used to tip barbers but haircuts are way too expensive these days. I'd rather just buzz my head myself.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Big_Dub]
#28609957 - 01/04/24 09:40 PM (23 days, 17 hours ago) |
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That's what do I shave my head #2 guard, keeps me cool in the hot weather here in Hawaii.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: JonBongGroovy] 4
#28609975 - 01/04/24 10:02 PM (23 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Businesses should pay their workers, not try and get their customers to do it for them.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Northerner]
#28609977 - 01/04/24 10:05 PM (23 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Northerner said: Businesses should pay their workers, not try and get their customers to do it for them.
This is what I’ve been saying every time somebody pushes back against it. I am paying for the sandwich. The restaurant should be paying the person bringing me the sandwich. I should not be in charge of paying the person who brought me the sandwich inside of the restaurant that is supposedly paying them.
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I worked at pizza hut back in high school and we has a buffet there. The girls would make so much fucking money from tips it was unreal 💀
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
#28610317 - 01/05/24 10:21 AM (23 days, 4 hours ago) |
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I've bartended, cocktail waitresses and was a server. You rely on tips
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
#28610322 - 01/05/24 10:25 AM (23 days, 4 hours ago) |
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Made the most as a cocktail waitress Bartending sucks a lot Serving sucks I had 3 jobs to survive during that time period of cocktailinf and bartending I'm sure if I was in a larger urban area I'd do better Sometimes you have the same 3 people and they come in at 9 am leaving at midnight Made more off pulltab winners It could be depressing watching people And sometimes fun
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Big_Dub] 2
#28610324 - 01/05/24 10:27 AM (23 days, 4 hours ago) |
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Mrmeowgi said:
Now you got me wanting to keep track of tips this year.
You should give it a try - tracking stuff like this is not too difficult with immediate access to google docs, and when used right data can be so eye opening . I actually keep a running spreadsheet of our expenses broken down each year from multiple categories, which really only took time to set up, and looking back from now to 2014 when I started is incredible. Doing so has helped us compartmentalize expenses and ensure extra money is always available when we need it.. let me know if you would like an ill find a way to share it with you.
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spirit_shadow said: I always look them dead in they eye and press skip 
Lol, my friend just said this exact same thing to me last sunday.
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Texas Honey Badger said: Round up pisses me the fuck off 
You're not wrong to be angry. And it's always like at pet shops or somewhere that they can tug a bit more at your hearts strings, stating that its going to a good cause - but I know if I were able to get a good look at the breakdown of expenses and whos getting paid there is someone making $$ off that, and its probably a corporation. Id rather donate my money to stuff I trust - like the trees.org thing Geo/Asante recently posted.
I am an auto no on those.
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Northerner said: Businesses should pay their workers, not try and get their customers to do it for them.
Agreed with this. I have much less of a problem if there was just no tipping, but food costs more. They just bake whatever living wage service workers need into the service itself. That would be such a better working model than the social pressure model we seem to currently operate at where people are given an electronic button 15%, 20%, 25%, 30%????? Or in a box below TIP NOTHING. And someone on the other side of the screen watching them.
I just feel like a greater portion of society than not are likely not savings savvy, might already have some level of credit card debt with interest, and are more likely to be living paycheck to paycheck. These are the last group of people who should be tipping for services they dont need to, and they are probably the most likely to, and most likely to hit that 20% or higher button, turning their $4 coffee turn into a $6.60, putting themselves further into debt for an experience that was not nearly matching in worth to the cost.
Im keeping that money in my pockets. Ill tip if we eat out at a restaurant with a server who brings food to our table, fills our drinks and brings us the check. But am just avoiding places that have those electronic screens. And unless I am blown away by the service, am hitting no tip if I unexpectedly encounter one moving forward - Especially if I am asked to tip before I even receive the service.
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Big_Dub said: I used to tip barbers but haircuts are way too expensive these days. I'd rather just buzz my head myself.
Ive been bald and shaving my head for 18 or so years now. I have spent maybe $200 on buzzers for my head in that span of time. If you want to save money, thats one easy place to start
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: loladoreen]
#28610394 - 01/05/24 11:28 AM (23 days, 3 hours ago) |
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loladoreen said: I've bartended, cocktail waitresses and was a server. You rely on tips
Recently I found out one of my friends tips 6% when I told him thats sales tax and most people tip 15-20% and that's expected and infact when places add gratuity its typically around 18%. Then I told him most people around this time of year tip even more like normally I tip maximum of 15% but this time of year I tip around 20-25% and anywhere such as social or supper clubs that your a regular ur meant to like take out $500 in cash and just hand money out to everyone in the place so they don't jizz in your food or whatever. His response was nobody does that and we literally got into an argument that every adult will tell you it's expected for folks to tip atleast 15%. I then went onto explain that's these people have like 2 kids and work for like $2/hr and rely on tips especially this time of year as part of thier salary. His response was basically that the owner should pay them more it's not his responsibility. I then explained that's not how it works so unless you want a cheese burger to now be like $40 and have absolutely no incentive for these people to provide good service than go with your idea you cheapskate. So basically my whole thing is people today don't have any understanding of when your supposed to tip or the point of tipping. Basically in a free country where every person is considered equal most people feel obligated to tip for service. It's not just the food industry but any sort of service. I made the point however that some services operate outside the 12-15% for good service rule of thumb. For example on certain deliveries or like cable guys and stuff I usually go with the here go get lunch and a coffee and give them enough for lunch for everyone on the crew regardless of what percentage is of whatever I'm buying. But it has to be delivering something heavy or some other reason to be tipped but you have to have your own person set of guidelines and disqualifiers and never give more than you have to for any reason ever. Cable guys are an exception because when you talk to them u realize they don't get paid shit and nobody tips them and they constantly deal with disgruntled people because cable companies suck and idiots have no clue how installing cable works so I hit them with the little lunch money thing. Plus you don't want them stealing any of your shit or half assing the install. Another hard rule is never pre tip but in certain situations like cable guys or furniture folks you have to allude to that fact that you fully intent to tip as long as they don't break or steal any of your stuff. Pre tipping on food delivery is a lesson hard learned I used to think oh let me pre tip the guys gonna shoot right to me first but sadly with no incentive your shit will show up an hour late cold and smashed as your the last stop because the money was already in pocket. Now however the the subtle nuances of the tipping game have changed and one absolutely must pre tip when ordering from mobile food delivery apps or your shit will show up an hour late and cold or half eaten or with jizz in it or often not at all. It's sad but with the way the social climate is now adays certain groups of people think it's funny or are just pieces of shit with no respect for anything. But yeah for those people I hit them with the 12%
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There are some situations where I like giving a fat tip- if a bartender gives me extra attention, takes a shot with me; or a long-term hairstylist around the holidays. It feels good to appreciate those folks.
I don't really get food delivered, but any of those gig workers who are using their personal vehicles for work are getting fucked so hard, you gotta tip just for them to get by.
But yea those screens are out of control. The brewery around the corner automatically selects 20%, which is total bullshit because I usually get one beer poured, and pick up a couple 4-packs. I'll throw a couple bucks for the pour, but I'm not giving a tip for the shit I literally pulled out of the fridge.
The hair salon I go to recently changed to a flat fee, no mens cut womens cut color blah blah. One price, per hour. Tip included. It was great. They know what they're going to make, I know what I'm expected to pay.
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There’s never gonna be a situation where somebody’s gonna charge you $40 for a cheeseburger. They need to pay their workers and actual livable wage. So they don’t require tipping. I want tipping to be optional. Like it’s supposed to be. Long time ago, it used to just be optional. Before some scum bag decided “what an amazing loophole for me to make more money and steal money from my workers. I should make them work for tips.”
That’s messed up. It needs to be done away with. It’s almost slave labor.
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I mean if you think about it. You could be completely on point. But there could just have been something wrong with your appearance that you weren’t even aware of. That could cost you your money that you need to survive off of. What a wicked thing that you’re working in a restaurant that should be paying you money to survive. But you didn’t flirt with the people at the table. So you didn’t get a tip. That just sounds like a gross thing to have nowadays.
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I've bought a $40 cheeseburger before. Burgers here are now around $20, thanks to you idiots. If we had to pay for tips included, they would also use it as an excuse to hike prices more than necessary and straight out pocket it theres your $40 burger. Then they would slowly chip away at almost all the rest of it, borrowing against it everything, eventually ending up in their pocket. You think your getting beat over the head with automatic gratuity now wait till every business figures out they can charge more now that tips are mandated by claiming theyre a for tip business or whatever bullshit theyll pull with that. Don't you understand how shit works why are you people constantly trying to destroy the country by "fixing" things that aren't broken! Where the fuck do you come up with this bullshit!
People would still feel obligated to tip just on principle because theyre not assholes. Do people not understand tipping anymore? What in the fuck is wrong with you people, seriously? Why don't you move to Europe or Asia or some place where people don't tip folks for waiting on them? It's actually one of the great American institutions and is the only polite way to respect people as individuals and equals. Its intent is the farthest thing from the aristocracy and serfdom that plagued other places for millennia! Maybe if we lived in a communist country like China or totalitarian oligarchies like Russia, maybe I could understand not tipping. I'm giving money directly to the person who's doing the service in the only fair and respectable manner that ensures it isn't subject to funny accounting or outright stolen by sleazy businesses or scumbag proprietors! If tipping goes the whole countrys out the window.
This isn't about flirting with the table, again, what the fuck is wrong with you? Those days are done. What in the fuck is that? What goes through your head? These folks are at work. How dare you? It's about ensuring quality service not objectifying or degrading people!
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Tips don't ensure quality service. They're rendered after the fact anyway (except for online orders, which are more like bids than tips).
And you're the one buying $40 cheeseburgers. You're your own worst enemy there.
Edited by PatrickKn (01/05/24 02:33 PM)
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn] 1
#28610645 - 01/05/24 03:04 PM (23 days, 4 minutes ago) |
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PatrickKn said: Tips don't ensure quality service.
Unless you're a regular, and they know you're a good tipper...
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: 1234go] 1
#28610713 - 01/05/24 03:51 PM (22 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Sure, but saying it's about ensuring quality service is quite a stretch for all of tipping. The vast majority of the time it has nothing to do with that.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn]
#28610720 - 01/05/24 03:53 PM (22 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Right, I was just sayin...
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn]
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#28611363 - 01/06/24 07:45 AM (22 days, 7 hours ago) |
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I tipped a girl, and I liked it.
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GenesisCorrupted said: There’s never gonna be a situation where somebody’s gonna charge you $40 for a cheeseburger.
Where I'm from in canada it's about that with a beer. Lots of placese just started shutting down
a large pizza is almost 50$ from a pizza shop
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Purple sunset] 1
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GenesisCorrupted said: There’s never gonna be a situation where somebody’s gonna charge you $40 for a cheeseburger.
Where I'm from in canada it's about that with a beer. Lots of placese just started shutting down
a large pizza is almost 50$ from a pizza shop
LOL I would go out and hunt a wild pizza before I paid that price
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#28611387 - 01/06/24 08:13 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Back in my day you could get a whole pizza for a nickel...
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: 1234go]
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Yes a large pizza is $30 here plus two toppings the delivery fee and tip it's $50 I just paid it last night. I never should have told everyone how good the pizza is here now it's all tourists and new york people it's unbelievable. Even last night I paid $50 as a regular customer and it came all fucked up cuz theyres no consistency anymore because a million new york people go on a Friday night. So they make a million dollars and I get fucked out one of the few good things I get enjoyment out of. So thanks again for ruining my life with your dumbass bullshit. You people don't have fucking tastebuds in your head and need people to tell what good food is so what does it matter?
Anyway we've gotten off topic here. I think you should just have tipping guidelines that you stick to no matter what. Any sort of bullshit tips are obviously disqualified. I think we should be using less services rather than tipping less when using said services. I wish folks would start sending a message with thier wallets because shit is out of hand.
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I don't have a problem with tipping, but it has to be voluntary. I find that a lot of servers have come to expect tips, and they give you attitude if you don't tip, or don't tip "enough". That's shitty.
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Anyway we've gotten off topic here. I think you should just have tipping guidelines that you stick to no matter what. Any sort of bullshit tips are obviously disqualified. I think we should be using less services rather than tipping less when using said services. I wish folks would start sending a message with thier wallets because shit is out of hand. 
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Lynnch]
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Lynnch said: There are some situations where I like giving a fat tip- if a bartender gives me extra attention, takes a shot with me; or a long-term hairstylist around the holidays. It feels good to appreciate those folks.
I don't really get food delivered, but any of those gig workers who are using their personal vehicles for work are getting fucked so hard, you gotta tip just for them to get by.
But yea those screens are out of control. The brewery around the corner automatically selects 20%, which is total bullshit because I usually get one beer poured, and pick up a couple 4-packs. I'll throw a couple bucks for the pour, but I'm not giving a tip for the shit I literally pulled out of the fridge.
The hair salon I go to recently changed to a flat fee, no mens cut womens cut color blah blah. One price, per hour. Tip included. It was great. They know what they're going to make, I know what I'm expected to pay.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: loladoreen] 1
#28611466 - 01/06/24 09:14 AM (22 days, 5 hours ago) |
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Always admired something like Vietnamese cuisine
It's fresh whole food. they give you large portions. Don't rip you off and it's always good
It's somewhere where they respect your kindness and well manners
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Purple sunset]
#28611777 - 01/06/24 01:51 PM (22 days, 1 hour ago) |
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I just watched a video with my kiddo about Japanese traditions - tipping a service provider there is considered an insult. They take pride in their work and apparently paying more than the service is charging is a statement about the worker that maybe they look poor or are in need of money.
Chief I tried to get through the wall-o-text (sorry it’s true), but I agree with what someone else said, when a burger joint starts charging $40 or whatever I just won’t eat there anymore. Unless it’s the best burger in town, I can make damn good ones at home.
Also the statement that everyone should be tipped for their work. I’ve never once been tipped for my current job (aside from a $20 Amazon gift card my company sends to all its employees each Christmas). I might get fired for putting a tip jar out at my place of work, but it would be funny … or maybe incredibly tacky. I won’t be doing that.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
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You don't tip everyone you tip people in the service industry for serving you I realize people now a days don't understand why thats important and that other places make up all kinds of poor cheapskate excuses to not do it
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Yall need to tip me for this post.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: Yall need to tip me for this post.
Tipping stopped being optional. Now it’s required by corrupt employers. I think it’s gotten way out of hand and people need to stop being so blasé about it.
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Tipping stopped being optional. Now it’s required by corrupt employers. I think it’s gotten way out of hand and people need to stop being so blasé about it.
Where's my tip?
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No its not wtf and i get you might be an idealist or whatevr and that's respectible and maybe you haven't worked these types of jobs but literally the absolute opposite is true and when times are tough like this people should be tipping more than ever. People tip less now more than ever maybe in history who knows. Its not required at all and most people think its a river in china for crying out loud. Theres just more intricate nuances now but if youve been keeping up you still can be a respectible gentleperson in this world of violence and filth and all this other madness were going through and be the one to tip a hardworking person who needs it most
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: Yall need to tip me for this post.
Tipping stopped being optional. Now it’s required by corrupt employers. I think it’s gotten way out of hand and people need to stop being so blasé about it.
Where's my tip? 
If you made a post profound enough I bet ppl would send you money. Whores make like tens of grand a month before taxes on the internet its unbelievable. Go fund yourself!
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH] 1
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Only once have i tipped good & regretted it The lady was still a bitch idk why??
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spirit_shadow said: Yall need to tip me for this post.
Tipping stopped being optional. Now it’s required by corrupt employers. I think it’s gotten way out of hand and people need to stop being so blasé about it.
Where's my tip? 
Do you accept Smilies?
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spirit_shadow said: Yall need to tip me for this post.
Tipping stopped being optional. Now it’s required by corrupt employers. I think it’s gotten way out of hand and people need to stop being so blasé about it.
Where's my tip? 
That was the tip.
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spirit_shadow said: Yall need to tip me for this post.
Tipping stopped being optional. Now it’s required by corrupt employers. I think it’s gotten way out of hand and people need to stop being so blasé about it.
Where's my tip? 
Do you accept Smilies? 
All forms of tips are accepted except for a phallus
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oursoulsinmotion said: Only once have i tipped good & regretted it The lady was still a bitch idk why??
U have to remember that person could be going thru alot of stuff or thier worst day of their life. That's the only way I can explain it atleast either way you should tip more imo
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oursoulsinmotion said: Only once have i tipped good & regretted it The lady was still a bitch idk why??
U have to remember that person could be going thru alot of stuff or thier worst day of their life. That's the only way I can explain it atleast either way you should tip more imo 
What you just said is exactly why tipping should be abolished. Just because you aren’t on your A game. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get a tip. It doesn’t mean that you deserve a good tip. Because you’re not doing great service. You should just be getting paid for doing your job.
If you did an amazing job. Why not throw them an extra couple bucks their way. But it shouldn’t be this way.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH]
#28612299 - 01/06/24 08:31 PM (21 days, 18 hours ago) |
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I tip and tip well. Unless it was not good service. I will continue to tip. I won't go if I can't afford the tip. And if someone chooses not to. I'm sure they have reason. Which has nothing to do with me.
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U have to remember that person could be going thru alot of stuff or thier worst day of their life. That's the only way I can explain it atleast either way you should tip more imo 
What you just said is exactly why tipping should be abolished. Just because you aren’t on your A game. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get a tip. It doesn’t mean that you deserve a good tip. Because you’re not doing great service. You should just be getting paid for doing your job.
If you did an amazing job. Why not throw them an extra couple bucks their way. But it shouldn’t be this way.
People tip the kitchen crew where I work, they did it so much that they put a jar for the tips on a counter and they call it the kitchen beer fund, it even it has a little sign that says "kitchen beer fund". When people tip them they all cheer and yell out "you know we like that beer!
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: loladoreen]
#28612312 - 01/06/24 08:37 PM (21 days, 18 hours ago) |
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loladoreen said: I tip and tip well. Unless it was not good service. I will continue to tip. I won't go if I can't afford the tip. And if someone chooses not to. I'm sure they have reason. Which has nothing to do with me.
I’m not saying I don’t tip. I’m saying the practice has become abusive and it isn’t what it’s supposed to be. It is supposed to be a reward for excellent service. It’s now required because people aren’t being paid to living wage. That’s got to stop.
You should be able to buy a sandwich without being required to tip.
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oursoulsinmotion said: Only once have i tipped good & regretted it The lady was still a bitch idk why??
U have to remember that person could be going thru alot of stuff or thier worst day of their life. That's the only way I can explain it atleast either way you should tip more imo 
What you just said is exactly why tipping should be abolished. Just because you aren’t on your A game. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get a tip. It doesn’t mean that you deserve a good tip. Because you’re not doing great service. You should just be getting paid for doing your job.
If you did an amazing job. Why not throw them an extra couple bucks their way. But it shouldn’t be this way.
People tip the kitchen crew where I work, they did it so much that they put a jar for the tips on a counter and they call it the kitchen beer fund, it even it has a little sign that says "kitchen beer fund". When people tip them they all cheer and yell out "you know we like that beer!
It people want to kick stuff to family meal and shifies that's a thing if stuff isn't walking out the back door as well we can alway just let the mob run the bill up and bust it
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH]
#28612346 - 01/06/24 09:05 PM (21 days, 18 hours ago) |
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I rarely see a bill that has gratuity included.
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Zebra chicken?
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: JonBongGroovy]
#28612383 - 01/06/24 09:52 PM (21 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Family meal and shifties
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: JonBongGroovy]
#28612396 - 01/06/24 10:04 PM (21 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Ur shifty ur bar allowance per shift! It can be quite understanble and ample it's a fringe benefit for alot of folks in the lifestyle!
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: JonBongGroovy]
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oursoulsinmotion said: Only once have i tipped good & regretted it The lady was still a bitch idk why??
U have to remember that person could be going thru alot of stuff or thier worst day of their life. That's the only way I can explain it atleast either way you should tip more imo 
What you just said is exactly why tipping should be abolished. Just because you aren’t on your A game. Doesn’t mean you shouldn’t get a tip. It doesn’t mean that you deserve a good tip. Because you’re not doing great service. You should just be getting paid for doing your job.
If you did an amazing job. Why not throw them an extra couple bucks their way. But it shouldn’t be this way.
People tip the kitchen crew where I work, they did it so much that they put a jar for the tips on a counter and they call it the kitchen beer fund, it even it has a little sign that says "kitchen beer fund". When people tip them they all cheer and yell out "you know we like that beer!"
U just cant beat that kind of Honesty!
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
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Those tip jars are everywhere, they have 1 at the dispensary, the liquor store doesn't though. Tipping someone for selling me weed seems weird, if i pick up food ok, I mean you made the food, but the weed store people didn't really do anything. I feel bad you had to get off your phone because I came in I guess.
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: ManianFH]
#28612596 - 01/07/24 05:18 AM (21 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Because theres a jar doesn't mean you need to Tip when you feel it's justified
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: loladoreen] 1
#28615659 - 01/09/24 07:36 PM (18 days, 19 hours ago) |
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True - and like I said originally not Anti-tipping. Just realized we did a lot of it last year - roughly $1000-1500 in tips alone. Really wanted to devise a plan to keep myself from doing it I suppose. So far so good too. Eaten at home pretty much every day this year. Our food is really good too, so going to keep building upon that routine.
Also going to track gasoline expenditures and see how few tanks I can get away with filling up this year. One of our cars is electric, and I already primarily use that, so under 5 (14 gallon) tank fill ups should be attainable for the year. That is not including trips, as that falls under a separate budget for us 
But considering we could easily be filling up 2-3 times a month (without the EV), it can amount to significant savings. Anyways, ramblings of a data geek/tightwad
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