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OfflineCHeifM4sterDiezL
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: loladoreen]
    #28610394 - 01/05/24 11:28 AM (23 days, 3 hours ago)

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I've bartended, cocktail waitresses and was a server. You rely on tips



Recently I found out one of my friends tips 6% when I told him thats sales tax and most people tip 15-20% and that's expected and infact when places add gratuity its typically around 18%. Then I told him most people around this time of year tip even more like normally I tip maximum of 15% but this time of year I tip around 20-25% and anywhere such as social or supper clubs that your a regular ur meant to like take out $500 in cash and just hand money out to everyone in the place so they don't jizz in your food or whatever. His response was nobody does that and we literally got into an argument that every adult will tell you it's expected for folks to tip atleast 15%. I then went onto explain that's these people have like 2 kids and work for like $2/hr and rely on tips especially this time of year as part of thier salary. His response was basically that the owner should pay them more it's not his responsibility. I then explained that's not how it works so unless you want a cheese burger to now be like $40 and have absolutely no incentive for these people to provide good service than go with your idea you cheapskate. So basically my whole thing is people today don't have any understanding of when your supposed to tip or the point of tipping. Basically in a free country where every person is considered equal most people feel obligated to tip for service. It's not just the food industry but any sort of service. I made the point however that some services operate outside the 12-15% for good service rule of thumb. For example on certain deliveries or like cable guys and stuff I usually go with the here go get lunch and a coffee and give them enough for lunch for everyone on the crew regardless of what percentage is of whatever I'm buying. But it has to be delivering something heavy or some other reason to be tipped but you have to have your own person set of guidelines and disqualifiers and never give more than you have to for any reason ever. Cable guys are an exception because when you talk to them u realize they don't get paid shit and nobody tips them and they constantly deal with disgruntled people because cable companies suck and idiots have no clue how installing cable works so I hit them with the little lunch money thing. Plus you don't want them stealing any of your shit or half assing the install. Another hard rule is never pre tip but in certain situations like cable guys or furniture folks you have to allude to that fact that you fully intent to tip as long as they don't break or steal any of your stuff. Pre tipping on food delivery is a lesson hard learned I used to think oh let me pre tip the guys gonna shoot right to me first but sadly with no incentive your shit will show up an hour late cold and smashed as your the last stop because the money was already in pocket. Now however the the subtle nuances of the tipping game have changed and one absolutely must pre tip when ordering from mobile food delivery apps or your shit will show up an hour late and cold or half eaten or with jizz in it or often not at all. It's sad but with the way the social climate is now adays certain groups of people think it's funny or are just pieces of shit with no respect for anything. But yeah for those people I hit them with the 12% :sadyes:


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #28610460 - 01/05/24 12:23 PM (23 days, 2 hours ago)

There are some situations where I like giving a fat tip- if a bartender gives me extra attention, takes a shot with me; or a long-term hairstylist around the holidays. It feels good to appreciate those folks.

I don't really get food delivered, but any of those gig workers who are using their personal vehicles for work are getting fucked so hard, you gotta tip just for them to get by.

But yea those screens are out of control. The brewery around the corner automatically selects 20%, which is total bullshit because I usually get one beer poured, and pick up a couple 4-packs. I'll throw a couple bucks for the pour, but I'm not giving a tip for the shit I literally pulled out of the fridge.

The hair salon I go to recently changed to a flat fee, no mens cut womens cut color blah blah. One price, per hour. Tip included. It was great. They know what they're going to make, I know what I'm expected to pay.


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28610470 - 01/05/24 12:29 PM (23 days, 2 hours ago)

There’s never gonna be a situation where somebody’s gonna charge you $40 for a cheeseburger. They need to pay their workers and actual livable wage. So they don’t require tipping. I want tipping to be optional. Like it’s supposed to be. Long time ago, it used to just be optional. Before some scum bag decided “what an amazing loophole for me to make more money and steal money from my workers. I should make them work for tips.”

That’s messed up. It needs to be done away with. It’s almost slave labor.


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28610471 - 01/05/24 12:34 PM (23 days, 2 hours ago)

I mean if you think about it. You could be completely on point. But there could just have been something wrong with your appearance that you weren’t even aware of. That could cost you your money that you need to survive off of. What a wicked thing that you’re working in a restaurant that should be paying you money to survive. But you didn’t flirt with the people at the table. So you didn’t get a tip. That just sounds like a gross thing to have nowadays.


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28610494 - 01/05/24 12:54 PM (23 days, 2 hours ago)

Don’t forget to tip your plugs for the service they provide! :cookiemonster:

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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28610526 - 01/05/24 01:22 PM (23 days, 1 hour ago)

I've bought a $40 cheeseburger before. Burgers here are now around $20, thanks to you idiots. If we had to pay for tips included, they would also use it as an excuse to hike prices more than necessary and straight out pocket it theres your $40 burger. Then they would slowly chip away at almost all the rest of it, borrowing against it everything, eventually ending up in their pocket. You think your getting beat over the head with automatic gratuity now wait till every business figures out they can charge more now that tips are mandated by claiming theyre a for tip business or whatever bullshit theyll pull with that. Don't you understand how shit works why are you people constantly trying to destroy the country by "fixing" things that aren't broken! Where the fuck do you come up with this bullshit!

People would still feel obligated to tip just on principle because theyre not assholes. Do people not understand tipping anymore? What in the fuck is wrong with you people, seriously? Why don't you move to Europe or Asia or some place where people don't tip folks for waiting on them? It's actually one of the great American institutions and is the only polite way to respect people as individuals and equals. Its intent is the farthest thing from the aristocracy and serfdom that plagued other places for millennia! Maybe if we lived in a communist country like China or totalitarian oligarchies like Russia, maybe I could understand not tipping. I'm giving money directly to the person who's doing the service in the only fair and respectable manner that ensures it isn't subject to funny accounting or outright stolen by sleazy businesses or scumbag proprietors! If tipping goes the whole countrys out the window.

This isn't about flirting with the table, again, what the fuck is wrong with you? Those days are done. What in the fuck is that? What goes through your head? These folks are at work. How dare you? It's about ensuring quality service not objectifying or degrading people!
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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 3
    #28610559 - 01/05/24 01:59 PM (23 days, 1 hour ago)

Tips don't ensure quality service. They're rendered after the fact anyway (except for online orders, which are more like bids than tips).

And you're the one buying $40 cheeseburgers. You're your own worst enemy there.


Edited by PatrickKn (01/05/24 02:33 PM)


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #28610645 - 01/05/24 03:04 PM (23 days, 4 minutes ago)

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Tips don't ensure quality service.





Unless you're a regular, and they know you're a good tipper...


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #28610713 - 01/05/24 03:51 PM (22 days, 23 hours ago)

Sure, but saying it's about ensuring quality service is quite a stretch for all of tipping. The vast majority of the time it has nothing to do with that.


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn]
    #28610720 - 01/05/24 03:53 PM (22 days, 23 hours ago)

Right, I was just sayin...

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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: 1234go] * 1
    #28610728 - 01/05/24 03:56 PM (22 days, 23 hours ago)

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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: PatrickKn]
    #28610741 - 01/05/24 04:10 PM (22 days, 22 hours ago)



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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: 1234go] * 3
    #28611363 - 01/06/24 07:45 AM (22 days, 7 hours ago)

I tipped a girl, and I liked it.




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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28611379 - 01/06/24 08:04 AM (22 days, 7 hours ago)

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There’s never gonna be a situation where somebody’s gonna charge you $40 for a cheeseburger.




Where I'm from in canada it's about that with a beer. Lots of placese just started shutting down

a large pizza is almost 50$ from a pizza shop


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Purple sunset] * 1
    #28611386 - 01/06/24 08:11 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago)

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GenesisCorrupted said:
There’s never gonna be a situation where somebody’s gonna charge you $40 for a cheeseburger.




Where I'm from in canada it's about that with a beer. Lots of placese just started shutting down

a large pizza is almost 50$ from a pizza shop



LOL I would go out and hunt a wild pizza before I paid that price :awehigh:


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: spirit_shadow] * 3
    #28611387 - 01/06/24 08:13 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago)

Back in my day you could get a whole pizza for a nickel...

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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: 1234go]
    #28611420 - 01/06/24 08:33 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago)

Yes a large pizza is $30 here plus two toppings the delivery fee and tip it's $50 I just paid it last night. I never should have told everyone how good the pizza is here now it's all tourists and new york people it's unbelievable. Even last night I paid $50 as a regular customer and it came all fucked up cuz theyres no consistency anymore because a million new york people go on a Friday night. So they make a million dollars and I get fucked out one of the few good things I get enjoyment out of. So thanks again for ruining my life with your dumbass bullshit. You people don't have fucking tastebuds in your head and need people to tell what good food is so what does it matter?

Anyway we've gotten off topic here. I think you should just have tipping guidelines that you stick to no matter what. Any sort of bullshit tips are obviously disqualified. I think we should be using less services rather than tipping less when using said services. I wish folks would start sending a message with thier wallets because shit is out of hand. :nonono:


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28611428 - 01/06/24 08:39 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago)

I don't have a problem with tipping, but it has to be voluntary.  I find that a lot of servers have come to expect tips, and they give you attitude if you don't tip, or don't tip "enough".  That's shitty.


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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #28611431 - 01/06/24 08:42 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago)

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Yes a large pizza is $30 here plus two toppings the delivery fee and tip it's $50 I just paid it last night. I never should have told everyone how good the pizza is here now it's all tourists and new york people it's unbelievable. Even last night I paid $50 as a regular customer and it came all fucked up cuz theyres no consistency anymore because a million new york people go on a Friday night. So they make a million dollars and I get fucked out one of the few good things I get enjoyment out of. So thanks again for ruining my life with your dumbass bullshit. You people don't have fucking tastebuds in your head and need people to tell what good food is so what does it matter?

Anyway we've gotten off topic here. I think you should just have tipping guidelines that you stick to no matter what. Any sort of bullshit tips are obviously disqualified. I think we should be using less services rather than tipping less when using said services. I wish folks would start sending a message with thier wallets because shit is out of hand. :nonono:





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Re: Services which request tips - 2024 plan [Re: Lynnch]
    #28611447 - 01/06/24 08:59 AM (22 days, 6 hours ago)

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Lynnch said:
There are some situations where I like giving a fat tip- if a bartender gives me extra attention, takes a shot with me; or a long-term hairstylist around the holidays. It feels good to appreciate those folks.

I don't really get food delivered, but any of those gig workers who are using their personal vehicles for work are getting fucked so hard, you gotta tip just for them to get by.

But yea those screens are out of control. The brewery around the corner automatically selects 20%, which is total bullshit because I usually get one beer poured, and pick up a couple 4-packs. I'll throw a couple bucks for the pour, but I'm not giving a tip for the shit I literally pulled out of the fridge.

The hair salon I go to recently changed to a flat fee, no mens cut womens cut color blah blah. One price, per hour. Tip included. It was great. They know what they're going to make, I know what I'm expected to pay.



Agree


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