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online buddhist teachings
    #28608092 - 01/03/24 07:35 AM (25 days, 6 hours ago)

hey all you can get high quality buddhist teachings from gomde
you just need to write gomde@gomde.dk and ask to join online retreat for free


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28608118 - 01/03/24 08:05 AM (25 days, 5 hours ago)

Not much of a lineage. Surprising given Tibetan origins.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle]
    #28608196 - 01/03/24 09:21 AM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

The Kagyu lineage?


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608218 - 01/03/24 09:42 AM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

"This lineage traces back to Trisong Detsen, the Tibetan king who invited Padmasambhava to Tibet."

First entry I see into the monastic world dates to 1858.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608223 - 01/03/24 09:47 AM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

This is a recording from a retreat by Alan Wallace on Shamatha.

Shamatha is also called 'calm abiding'. I think he has a really great approach to it and have found it helpful.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle]
    #28608229 - 01/03/24 09:51 AM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

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Kickle said:
"This lineage traces back to Trisong Detsen, the Tibetan king who invited Padmasambhava to Tibet."

First entry I see into the monastic world dates to 1858.




I see this for their abot :

http://gomde.dk/teachers/1

what are you looking at?


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608240 - 01/03/24 10:01 AM (25 days, 3 hours ago)

I looked at the founder of Gomde and traced backwards.

https://gomde.org/who-we-are#

This video as well, starting ~4:30, about being non-sectarian but having been taught by Kagyu and Nyingma teachers.

In Tibet the schools keep a careful record of transmission to lineage holders. Being taught does not make one a lineage holder. Otherwise there would be very large amounts of lineage holders. This isn't the case.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle]
    #28608283 - 01/03/24 10:41 AM (25 days, 3 hours ago)

what is it called when someone is given lineage holding?


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608296 - 01/03/24 10:55 AM (25 days, 3 hours ago)

I'm not sure it has a specific name. Each school approaches it slightly differently.

Often there is an emphasis on reincarnations of past holders (Tulku). But in the Gelug school for example there is an election process for top position and the title is held for 7 years. There are others who are considered to carry the lineage as well, the Dalai Lama being such. So there is a reincarnation emphasis as well.

Older stories usually involve transmissions at the time of death (or close to).


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle]
    #28608305 - 01/03/24 11:02 AM (25 days, 2 hours ago)

From the page I linked the abbot has Khenpo, the title Rinpoche, was the assistant to the karmapa, and was directed by the karmapa to start a monastery, and also to give teachings to westerners

so i guess my question is what is missing that would mean he is a lineage holder?


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608324 - 01/03/24 11:12 AM (25 days, 2 hours ago)

I think they may be a lineage holder. Just not of a major school. One originating in 1858.

"With an emphasis on the Chokling Tersar lineage of Tibetan Buddhism"

What keeps them from being a holder in another lineage? Recognition from those leaders as such.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle] * 2
    #28608398 - 01/03/24 12:08 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

i guess it's like basket ball,
you get more benefit by playing on a driveway, than by going to a league match.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28608399 - 01/03/24 12:12 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

http://www.buddhism.org/Sutras/

Even that list leaves a lot to be desired.
The Rhinoceros Sutra appears to be missing, for example, I consider that one vital.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28608404 - 01/03/24 12:17 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

Ok, here we go:
https://www.hermitary.com/solitude/rhinoceros.html

What it teaches about requiring a guru for study and practice is fascinating.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle]
    #28608406 - 01/03/24 12:21 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

Quote:

Kickle said:
I think they may be a lineage holder. Just not of a major school. One originating in 1858.

"With an emphasis on the Chokling Tersar lineage of Tibetan Buddhism"

What keeps them from being a holder in another lineage? Recognition from those leaders as such.




it says he is the 7th Drikung Kagyu lama, has Khenpo, and was asked by the head of the Kagyu lineage (the Karmapa) to be the abbot of a monastery


what is missing that would make them a lineage holder?


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608421 - 01/03/24 12:35 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

I can't open the link you sent in your first post so I honestly can't tell you what you're referencing. You'll have to investigate yourself. A cursory glance suggests the Drikung Kagyu has 2 holders currently.

Tenzin Chökyi Nangwa (Chungtsang)
And
Könchog Tenzin Kunzang Thinley Lhundrup (Chetsang)

If one of those two are the Abbot at the Denmark location for the broader group of Gomde, then nothing is keeping that individual from accurately describing their lineage in the Drikung Kagyu.


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Kickle]
    #28608428 - 01/03/24 12:40 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

This is what it says:

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In the 7th lunar month of 1951, Tulku Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche was born into the Tsangsar family as the first-born son of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche whose family has, for many generations, held the now rare Barom Kagyu lineage.


At 18 months of age, Chökyi Nyima — Sun of the Dharma — was recognized as the 7th incarnation of the Drikung Kagyu lama, Gar Drubchen, a Tibetan mahasiddha and spiritual emanation of the renowned 2nd century Indian Buddhist philosopher, Nagarjuna. Soon after, he was enthroned at his predecessor's monastery, Drong Gon Tubten Dargye Ling Monastery in Nakchukha, Central Tibet, where he resumed his role as Dharma Master to 500 monks.


Shortly before the Chinese invasion of Tibet in 1959, Chökyi Nyima migrated with his parents and younger brother, Tsikey Chokling Rinpoche, to Gangtok, Sikkim. Thereafter, he was enrolled at the Young Lamas' School in Dalhousie, India. At the age of 13, he entered Rumtek, seat of the Kagyu School of Tibetan Buddhism, and spent the next 11 years studying the Karma Kagyu, Drikung Kagyu, and Nyingma traditions under the guidance of such eminent masters as His Holiness the 16th Gyalwang Karmapa, Kyabje Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche, and Kyabje Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche.


Thoroughly engaged in the study of such classic philosophical treatises as Vasubhandu's Abhidharma Kosha, the Five Texts of Maitreya, Dharmakirti's Pramanavartika, Shantideva's Bodhicarya Avatara, and Chandrakirti's Madhyamaka Avatara, Tulku Chökyi Nyima earned his khenpo degree at an early age.


In 1974, Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche left Rumtek, where he had been personal aide to Rangjung Rigpey Dorje, the 16th Karmapa, and joined his father, mother and younger brother, Tsikey Chokling Rinpoche, in Boudhanath, a suburb of Kathmandu, Nepal. There, at the command of the 16th Karmapa, the family of high Lamas established Ka-Nying Shedrub Ling Monastery just north of the Great Jarung Khashor Stupa. After its completion in 1976, Rinpoche was instructed by the Karmapa to become its 25-year-old abbot. His Holiness also advised Tulku Chökyi Nyima to turn his efforts towards instructing Western practitioners. To fulfill this directive, Rinpoche honed his English language skills and began to offer weekend teachings to the flourishing Western community in Nepal and to interested travelers. This ongoing series of free public talks, which came to be known as the “Saturday Morning Talks,” continue to this day.


In 1980, with his eldest son, Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche, by his side, Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche embarked on an extensive round-the-world tour through Southeast Asia, Europe and the United States in order to bring Lord Buddha’s message to Buddhist practitioners everywhere. Erik Pema Kunsang accompanied them as their translator. Wherever the Lamas visited, they gave Dzogchen and Mahamudra teachings and empowerments to numerous people.


After returning to Nepal, in 1981 Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche established the Rangjung Yeshe Institute for Buddhist Studies (RYI) which hosts annual international seminars and symposiums on Buddhism. In 1997, RYI expanded to include an international Buddhist college, or “shedra”, offering an in-depth curriculum in formal Buddhist studies for students from around the world.  RYI has since formed the Centre for Buddhist Studies at Kathmandu University, a degree-granting institution for scholarship and academic research where, after 3 to 5 years of study, both local and foreign students can receive their BA and MA degrees in Buddhist Studies.


Late in 1981, Rinpoche also established Rangjung Yeshe Publications who have, through the decades, produced many fine books. Among their publications, Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche’s prolific teachings, commentaries and writings can be found in: Union of Mahamudra and Dzogchen, Song of Karmapa, Bardo Guidebook, Indisputable Truth, Present Fresh Wakefulness and Medicine and Compassion.


Rinpoche has a good command of the English language, and has been instructing a growing number of Western students in meditation practice since 1977. When his busy schedule allows, several mornings each week Rinpoche throws open the doors of his personal shrine-room and meets visitors personally. Moreover, each autumn, he conducts a 10-day Fall Seminar on Buddhist teachings, ranging from the most basic to the most esoteric. For the benefit of the international participants, the seminar is offered in Tibetan and translated into English, German, French, Russian, Spanish, Portuguese, Chinese and a number of other languages.


Through the decades, Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche has successfully founded Tibetan Buddhist Dharma Centres, which he now heads, in Malaysia, Denmark, America, Austria, Russia, the United Kingdom and France. Study groups have formed under his direction in other countries, including Israel, Holland, Mexico and Portugal. Each year, Rinpoche travels widely in Europe, Russia, Asia and the Americas instructing students in a variety of Buddhist disciplines and contexts. During his travels, he has also been a frequent lecturer at many esteemed colleges and universities around the world, such as Harvard and Oxford University.


In 2006, Rinpoche established the Dharmachakra Translation Group, a committee of expert translators dedicated to translating and publishing classical Buddhist treatises from Tibetan and Sanskrit scriptural canon.


For more than 30 years, Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche has overseen the welfare and spiritual education of almost 500 monks and nuns residing primarily at Ka-Nying Shedrub Ling Monastery, Asura Cave Retreat Centre and Nagi Gompa Hermitage, respectively. His heartfelt wish is to double this number of ordained and therefore the monasteries and retreat centers under his care are constantly undergoing improvements and expansion.


In the meantime, much of Rinpoches everyday life is devoted to the spiritual needs of the local congregation of both Tibetan and Nepalese lay practitioners. As an adjunct to his activity locally, and for the betterment of the monastery’s surrounding community, Rinpoche founded the charitable organization Shenpen which addresses the practical special needs of the disadvantaged, such as health care and education. Shenpen is administered by a number of Rinpoche’s close Western students.




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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Freedom]
    #28608432 - 01/03/24 12:43 PM (25 days, 1 hour ago)

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In the 7th lunar month of 1951, Tulku Chökyi Nyima Rinpoche was born into the Tsangsar family as the first-born son of Tulku Urgyen Rinpoche whose family has, for many generations, held the now rare Barom Kagyu lineage.



Nepotistic enlightenment anyone?


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: Nillion] * 2
    #28608443 - 01/03/24 12:58 PM (25 days, 59 minutes ago)

The ceremonies can be very nice, and I do like hearing the droning chants, but I am disinclined to formal religion of all kinds. The lineage certificates formalize the whole thing, and I guess that is important for people in the wider world.

My interest is more what we do in our own home, and out in the world.

I think it is valuable to have lineage which can preserve the teachings, but also books are extremely important.

In this area that would be any book that teaches samatha (and vipassana) and then doing the hoops on your own driveway.

there are 7 pages of it on Amazon (https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=vipassana&dc&crid=34AOMJ0MKKXDT&qid=1704311925&sprefix=samatha+vipassana%2Caps%2C125&ref=aw_s_fkmr0)


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Re: online buddhist teachings [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28608449 - 01/03/24 01:05 PM (25 days, 51 minutes ago)

I like looking at lineage for context. Each school has unique emphasis in Tibet. Although all are Buddhist, each approaches it quite differently.

@freedom thanks for the copy paste.


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