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Re: What is yoga? [Re: syncro]
    #28609521 - 01/04/24 02:31 PM (23 days, 16 hours ago)

I disagreed with you but didn't take offense (I think people often assume offence with disagreement, I just see it as people see things the way they see them because of their life experiences)

I don't know what yoga is, or anything is acutally lol. I can share some interesting expriences.

At one point I was meditating like 6 hours a day and also going to week long meditation retreats every 3 weeks. I was having some experiences where I started dissolving into the buzzing vibration of everything.  I also started doing yoga just to stretch my body out, since all the sitting was kind of tough on it. To my suprise, the buzzing disolving would be much more intense after doing yoga, and eventually that buzzing disolving led to the self completely disolving into infinity. I wasn't expecting any other effect than hoping i could be more physically comfortable.

At another point I was looking at the sense of there being a line between me and the world, or inside and outside. In meditation had times where that line diasapeared and it was like I was a continuous space throughout all senses. I did both qi gong and yoga at this point (someone just showed me qi gong one day). To my surprise both practices helped me integrate the experience of continuous space into my daily life.

At another point my pracice had fallen behind, I wasn't meditating daily but went to a yoga class on a whim. To my surprise again I fell into a unity state where there was still a sense of self but that self was everything. That happened regularly for a month or two.

I also used to be skeptic about chakras until I did these practices a lot. Chakras aren't part of my tradition so that was really a surprise. Also have had some kundalini type phenomena that was also surprising.

I've also beein looking at things energetically which is hard to describe, but all body pracices as well as diet, sex and other stuff effects the energetic system in my body.

I've never formally studied yoga and don't even know what the official stance on it is from the various traditions it comes from.


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Re: What is yoga? [Re: solarshroomster] * 2
    #28609633 - 01/04/24 04:12 PM (23 days, 14 hours ago)

For about 15 years I used psychedelics several times a year and valued them for the clarity they gave. Then I went to my first long meditation retreat. On the third day of the retreat the same clarity appeared, and suddenly I realized the point of what everyone there was doing was to learn to live with that in daily life. The prospect of living with that clarity in daily life became basically my highest priority. When I left the retreat that clarity lasted for a couple weeks, slowly fading out. I got to see the clarity function, relationships at work and home and even with strangers on the street changed in obvious ways.

I thought I would stabilize that state after another retreat or two :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am now less drawn to the big expansive states and am more interested in bringing life and joy and love to the little details of my life. Can I enjoy washing the dishes? Can I listen to my friend with my full attention? Can I find creative ways to respond to the weird political emails my dad sends me? Can I stay calm when the guy at work is frustrated and blaming me?

I'm finding lately that there is so much richness to be tapped in the normal everyday things.

Not to discount those amazing moments. The are part of the tapestry of life, and beautiful and inspiring. I think the thing with them is grasping at them is part of what blocks them, so there is natural feedback that stops the grasping for them.

It typically takes about 3 days of meditation for most people's minds to calm down and stabilize enough for things to start opening up. One thing you could try is meditating with marijuna or low doses of psychedelics that might give a little glimpse of someething.


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Re: What is yoga? [Re: syncro]
    #28609635 - 01/04/24 04:13 PM (23 days, 14 hours ago)

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Oh, from what Solar said, you disagreed with me saying one man's mantra is another man's shroom?

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No offense taken, but I'm curious what part you disagreed with. Needless to say I tend to over generalize. What is yoga? 'Well yoga is everything man.' But I think it's more valuable to say that with religion as it has been said, religion is simply what we do, what we follow day to day.




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    #28609643 - 01/04/24 04:20 PM (23 days, 14 hours ago)

no, I disagreed with solar about yoga being just fun or entertainment or something, but thats just my opinion based on my limited experience.


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Re: What is yoga? [Re: solarshroomster] * 5
    #28611027 - 01/05/24 09:45 PM (22 days, 9 hours ago)

What you're missing is that the mundane is not separate from the mystical. That bringing love and kindness into daily life is both a practice and a fruit of 'the mystical'. Through practice, the 'mystical' becomes ordinary, and the ordinary becomes mystical. It becomes obvious, everything is a miracle.

What blocks it is preconceptions. A psychedelic can give you a glimpse because it temporarily blocks your preconceptions, but once the drug wears off, they come right back.

The difference between taking a psychedelic and walking a path of practice is like the difference between visiting a beautiful temple once in a while vs turning every atom of existence into a beautiful temple.

You can't chase states either way though. Tollerence builds too fast to be tripping in a mystical state all the time. Grasping and seeking mystical states will keep them away.

So I learn to appreciate them when they appear, and appreciate what else appears when it appears. Even difficult things become an opportunity to learn and to let go of the habits of mind that block seeing things clearly. And yes, I still take psychedelics.

Most people don't want to let go of what needs to be let go of. Which is everything. The funny thing is you never had it to begin with... :smile:


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Re: What is yoga? [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28612770 - 01/07/24 08:46 AM (20 days, 22 hours ago)

It's a great relief, although can be scary too

also it seems we have to relaearn motivation, that a lot of our activity in the world relates to this imaginary thing at an imaginary center ("me") and when that loses its grip then what is the motive?


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