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Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers
    #28603930 - 12/30/23 09:51 PM (4 months, 16 days ago)

Kratom, often marketed as a health product, faces scrutiny over danger to consumers 🌿
December 27, 2023 - CBS News



Nearly 2 million Americans in 2021 used the herbal supplement Kratom to treat pain, anxiety and opioid withdrawal, according to the Food and Drug Administration. But the substance is also blamed for addiction, seizures and deaths — like that of Dustin Hernandez.

Hernandez's death was caught on security video, which showed him collapsing and having a seizure before he died.

Toxicology testing by the medical examiner blamed the "toxic effects of mitragynine," which is typically marketed as kratom.

Hernandez's sister, Dusti Young, said her brother took kratom for his anxiety.

"He was in denial about it being addictive," she told CBS News.

Kratom is commonly marketed as a wellness wonder, and is widely sold online and in gas stations. But the FDA says the substance is addictive and warns not to use kratom because of the "risk of serious adverse effects."

The agency has been trying to bar kratom from being imported since 2014.

"Every bag of kratom on the shelf got here by people who are fraudulently saying it's something else," Talis Abolins, an attorney who represents Hernandez's family, said.

"What makes it even worse is that they're selling it like it's coffee or tea," Abolins added.

The American Kratom Association admits there are many illegitimate kratom products. The group's spokesman, Mac Haddow, told CBS News that out of about 8,000 players in the kratom industry, only around "three dozen" are legitimate.

Haddow blames the FDA. "They simply say, 'We're not gonna regulate. We wanna ban it,'" he said. "They should be regulating and protecting consumers."

The American Kratom Association is pushing for the Kratom Consumer Protection Act, which it calls a best practices standard. Local versions of the act have already been passed in 11 states.

But critics say the issue is kratom itself.

"This kratom product is associated with seizures, coma and death. And if that had been on the bag, a lot of lives would be saved," Abolins said.

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Re: Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers [Re: veggie] * 2
    #28604832 - 12/31/23 04:15 PM (4 months, 15 days ago)

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This kratom product is associated with seizures*, coma and death




*In susceptible individuals, these individuals should buy fentanyl tainted heroin off the street.

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Re: Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers [Re: Holybullshit]
    #28606492 - 01/01/24 09:38 PM (4 months, 14 days ago)

I think that extreme concentrates are actually a hard drug, but officious people have failed to save addicts from themselves, with every tax, label, and duty, so far.

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Re: Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers [Re: durian_2008]
    #28606741 - 01/02/24 07:58 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

I absolutely agree. I believe extracts and tinctures should be banned if they aren't going to be standardized and regulated for content and potency. Whole leaf is all people need for medicinal, maintenance, or light recreational purposes. Whole leaf is also self regulating, you can't consume dangerous amounts before you are stopped by gastrointestinal issues.

Tinctures and extracts only serve abuse and addiction...and they are far too often and easily adulterated.

The problem with kratom is the opioid action generally has a ceiling effect, but the same is not true for it's off target and adrenergic action. Not a problem with whole leaf like it is with extracts.

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    #28606760 - 01/02/24 08:12 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Majority of people I know take the sawdust filled kratom from the gas station


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Re: Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers [Re: loladoreen]
    #28606797 - 01/02/24 08:43 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Gross.

I've seen good brands at local locations, rarely, but usually there's a huge difference between what you get there and quality kratom you get online from a reputable source.

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Re: Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers [Re: veggie]
    #28606844 - 01/02/24 09:51 AM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Agree

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Re: Kratom faces scrutiny over danger to consumers [Re: loladoreen] * 1
    #28607286 - 01/02/24 03:17 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

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loladoreen said:
Majority of people I know take the sawdust filled kratom from the gas station




This and salmonella are why I think Kratom should be legal and regulated... same as other O-DSMT additions or other contaminants.  I mean sawdust is fine, I'm sure some have tiny metal shavings from the factory grinders and shit like that.

Beyond Kratom being just as addicting as other opiates, it should still be legal.  It's a very helpful medicine like poppy plants, but the market invites unscrupulous people who just wanna make a buck and don't care who they hurt.

I also don't trust our government to properly regulate it, which is kinda a root issue with a lot of legalizing and regulating for drugs.

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