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Window light vs screen 1
#28603364 - 12/30/23 02:00 PM (28 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Anyone with input concerning the screen that is only covering the lower portion of this window? I'm thinking in terms of diffused filtered light. I can remove the screen but would rather not. I'm thinking there's plenty of light, the screen is arbitrary and non limiting for the purpose of shrooms. I'm building a small table that will support a single tub and the table height will be a inch higher than the bottom edge of glass. I vote leave the screen in place, thinking it will not affect a tub while the top portion of window glass is unscreened and letting thru plenty of light.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28603366 - 12/30/23 02:01 PM (28 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Funfarm said: I'm thinking there's plenty of light, the screen is arbitrary and non limiting for the purpose of shrooms.
I like the way you think friend.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Way]
#28603370 - 12/30/23 02:06 PM (28 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Thank you way. Sometimes I create unneeded question out of my lack of confidence. The rest of the windows on that side of the dwelling have screens and it would look odd to remove it from one. Not worried about the tub being visible from outside, just pissing off grandma by what she considers tearing the house apart if I remove the screen. 👍
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm] 2
#28603373 - 12/30/23 02:11 PM (28 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Sunlight is great but I'm a personal believer in just replacing the room light with a 100 watt daylight spectrum bulb and keeping it on a 12 / 12.
However as you said before, the screen will not affect your performance if using daylight.
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Thank you elasticaltiger, I really like the sun way, at one time I thought I was going to run shelves and thought those round selfie lights would of been good.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28603426 - 12/30/23 03:05 PM (28 days, 16 hours ago) |
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If you want something quantifiable, you can download an app like Photone. It comes with a Lux meter. A lot of the models it supports have a calibrated one, but if your phone doesn't you can calibrate it yourself. Then you can measure by keeping your phone close to where your substrate surface would be and pointing wherever t he light meter is on you phone near to a light source. Aim for about 500 lux for 14 hours.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Tiamo]
#28603731 - 12/30/23 07:06 PM (28 days, 12 hours ago) |
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Thank you for the light rating....photone nice. That settles that, all I remember was cannabis was like 5000 to 10000 lumen a sq ft. Under a 1000 watt
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28604058 - 12/31/23 01:34 AM (28 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Lumen and lux is not the same. Lumen is the amount submitted by a lighting source and lux is the amount of light that falls on an area. An 800-1200 lumen bulb (around 10 watt for LED) will produce about 500 lux at a distance of 30 cm for tubs and such. Vastly less than we use for cannabis of course. Don't worry about it too much, I think the lighting conditions you outline in the OP will do fine just know the guidelines.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Tiamo]
#28604410 - 12/31/23 09:56 AM (27 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Tiamo, thank you for taking your time to come back and clarify that lighting Factor. May I ask, are you really located in Amsterdam? I've always wanted to ride a bicycle around the town there, check out the different shops perhaps window shop the district of red lights. You know take a peek.
Edit: oh I do see in your signature that your there. Lucky you
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28604426 - 12/31/23 10:09 AM (27 days, 21 hours ago) |
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I am I wouldn't recommend Amsterdam any more as a tourist, much too busy and it kinda underwent "Disneylandification" if that makes sense. It really doesn't have the charm it once used to have anymore.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28604445 - 12/31/23 10:26 AM (27 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Ah, enough said, totally understand what you mean by Disney modifications it's like what happened to vegas. A shame I missed the old world original era feel. I would of liked to have visited sensi seed bank coffee shop. I just had to look online out of curiosity but I didn't realize the Netherlands were subject to aerial bombing during WW2
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28631465 - 01/22/24 08:19 PM (5 days, 11 hours ago) |
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 So not directly behind us, but the next over behind us, is a... you guessed it, a officer of the I may not necessarily want to know what's sitting in front of the window. They just moved in. I was going to construct a crude table to stack two tubs in front of the window but scratching that idea. With the screen in the way obstructing the view and the ability to close the blinds at night with interior light on, I could probably get away with it. I just don't want to chance it, I mean if question was raised it's just tropical plants. I'm going to leave the 2 tubs on top of a dresser that the neighbor has zero angle to. Not to mention there's still going to be plenty of light coming in the room, while it's my understanding there's only a little light requirement to start pinning. The problem is that we are so far north the days are super short, so I'm taking one from elasticaltiger and putting up a 100w led to supplement after the sun goes down just to keep on that 12/12 schedule. The ceiling fan in the room has those mini bulbs but I have a really good lamp I can put on the dresser to keep things happy. You can see where the window blinds are on the left and the tub with the spray bottle on the right, plenty of light will fill the room. Oh yeah, those are bi-fold shutter panels they totally open to the window, I'll get a morning pic with them open tomorrow. Thanks elasticaltiger 😊
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28632591 - 01/23/24 08:16 PM (4 days, 11 hours ago) |
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There's nothing more powerful than the sun for light, it doesn't lose output no matter how far away it is unlike bulbs that lose a ton of light every every foot of distance.
Luckily for you it's not as important as it is for growing plants. You can use about any light fixture with a 10watt led if it's a ft away or less and have great results.
It helps a lot if your lid/top is clear like a dubtub and it works great to set the bulb right on top of the dubtub in a pendant type fixture.


You can even use like a plastic coffee container and a bulb adapter with an extension cord... It doesn't have to be fancy to get results.
Keep in mind just because somebody doesn't have a uniform on doesn't mean they aren't undercover either. Sometimes it's better to play it on the safe side and use a bulb...
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: HelloImBob]
#28632625 - 01/23/24 08:47 PM (4 days, 10 hours ago) |
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Thank you HellolmBob, I think if that particular neighbor was out and saw two tubs with taped up holes in front of a window it couldn't be good. I'm sure the agents get training for what to look for and the described doesn't quit fit the norm. Why leave anything to question or doubt, like you said it's just safer to use the bulb. I originally thought it would be ok to keep the shutters open and the bulb on a 12/12 timer, now I have decided it's one or the other. I'll either have the sun as a source (blinds open), or the lamp as a source (blinds closed). From the dresser angle and set back to the window it's way safer. Oh yes, we are running clear lids.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28632639 - 01/23/24 09:02 PM (4 days, 10 hours ago) |
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I believe just about everybody uses bulbs around here and gets great results, maybe more people use the sun than I assume but...
I know that bulbs work very well for mushrooms.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: HelloImBob]
#28632651 - 01/23/24 09:17 PM (4 days, 10 hours ago) |
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We took a break for awhile and moved. The last place we were at was amazing for natural light, facing the morning sun I had a dresser on the back wall and directly across was the window. I would just leave the blinds open no matter if the ceiling flat mount round led light was on or not. This was done because there were no neighbors behind us. Since setting up new shop there's some new aforementioned encumbrances involved. I love using the sun, wither it's cannabis or whatever, the sun rules. Sure people will argue and I will agree, indoor synthetic buds are higher quality but there's just something more visionary using natural light.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28632674 - 01/23/24 09:45 PM (4 days, 9 hours ago) |
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No doubt, light bulbs can do unbelievable things but it's hard to beat the sun.
On indoor you usually have shorter plants because the lights loses efficientcy so quickly with distance but they do flower really well inside under lights.
Outdoor you can have a 12ft sativa with big buds on the entire plant.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28632741 - 01/24/24 12:44 AM (4 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Yeah that screen will block little light. You are good to go
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Nothing like a monster bud plant outdoors that's finishing during the fall time frame.
Logical. Chaos thank you for looking at the original post picture and replying to such.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28632968 - 01/24/24 07:43 AM (3 days, 23 hours ago) |
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 Not wanting to run the subject in the ground, but with the bi-fold shutters open there's plenty of light. Im glad I took the pic because it shows me where the light is reflecting & illuminating the empty tub. Just before the sun sets I'll close the shutters and turn on the lamp with a single led bulb to keep the light schedule as close to 12 hours as I can. I marked out the location in the pic of those who I don't necessarily want knowing of my hobby. No angle to the set back dresser, no problem and no doubt. While I wonder if the little ceiling light bulbs would be enough illumination once the sun sets?
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28632973 - 01/24/24 07:45 AM (3 days, 23 hours ago) |
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You can get tint that still allows most of the light in and obscures view from the outside. Check everyone’s favorite online monopoly for options.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Mwj12977]
#28633008 - 01/24/24 08:16 AM (3 days, 23 hours ago) |
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Scary read, it's a good thing that the shrooms I grow don't contain any active compounds, they're just look a likes. Its rumored a veteran acquaintance who had a background in military computer intel, may or may not have had access to such places. All I remember was being able to download movies before release date. Of course everything I say and do is made up.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28633567 - 01/24/24 05:10 PM (3 days, 14 hours ago) |
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 Like a kid in a toy store, more packages on the way. I'm sure you guys have seen these, I figured for the cost of a regular led bulb from home Depot plus minimal shipping, why not get it. The room is going to glow when the sun sets.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28633648 - 01/24/24 06:21 PM (3 days, 13 hours ago) |
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Theres light bulbs specifically for shrooms now?!
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They probably could put a cannabis leaf on the box and market it as for seedlings and clones too. Anything to get people like me to spend money, got to have it, I can't do it right if I don't. To answer your inquiry, yes, offered by a mycology Web site, it states dual spectrum, "6350K to stimulate pinning & growth 5000K to sustain natural daylight rhythms". I know I could of just gotten a regular daylight led but this was comparable in cost and I figured what the hell. Got to love the turn key new generation shroomers like myself, a debit card, internet access, a syringe of culture, a all in one bag and done. It's got to be way overkill for the purpose used. The converted commercial walk in refrigerator I saw with shelves full of fungus had just a single, maybe 2 at the most, t-8 flouros.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28634286 - 01/25/24 10:17 AM (2 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Scratching the lamp on the dresser idea, I'm going to try one of those fancy clip on dome lights from home Depot. Electing to remove the metal dome to light up the whole room and allow the light to be unfocused over the length of the dresser. I'm going to clamp it on top of the dresser mirror and by doing so it will allow the cord to hang down behind it directly to the outlet. I like those little construction light sockets with the fancy clip, we used them for seedlings and rooting clones during the cannabis days before the dispensary's opened. By elimination of a table lamp and the space it would occupy, there's actually enough room for one more tub. Hmmmm? Well I do have a lc syringe and a one pound bag of rye....naw! Hell I only wanted to do a single tub at a time.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28634433 - 01/25/24 12:15 PM (2 days, 19 hours ago) |
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YOLO?
I do like those clip-on lamps as well. Very handy.
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I wanted to reply earlier but it was one of those days where you grab the keys, run out of the house and there's no time for anything until you get back. YOLO it is, leaning towards a third tub, but that's it, no more than that, lol. I'll throw up a pic when the bulb arrives, hoping to start fruiting the first of three tubs about then so it will work out just peachy.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm]
#28635448 - 01/26/24 09:57 AM (1 day, 21 hours ago) |
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Not always being able to get to opening and closing the shutters on a 12 hour cycle. I elected to get a timer for the bulb, a throw back to the cannabis days! Of course when you were throwing a room full of 1000 waters they were wired into a 220 volt industrial timer box and not a low voltage 5 dollar piece of plastic from Wally world. Concerning that, you know the best we ever had cultivated was no shit a freebie bean that came from a seed bank order in England. Of course now a days I can drive down the road and buy seed packs from the glass shop. Anyways it was from a breeder called TH seeds and the strain was darkstar. It would finish dry and cured with a light lime green color, about like this 💚, with the densest feel. The THC content... it looked like the bud wall was wetted and then rolled in sugar. We topped our plants and this strain always had to be staked up with the the weight of the buds. Looked like a big mutant menorah when on the stalk. This is my chief claim to fame concerning it, no lie, and I never saw anything else do this, but when trimming, the sharpest shears could not cut the leaf tips due to the shear amount of copius resin. The blades would just allow the leaf surface slide thru. Oh my, the mess the strain made while handling. When the dispensarys started popping up I got out of the game a was offered a fair price for a cutting. This was before people started sending stuff off to be tested for levels but I'm sure if analyzed it would of been up there. All of this from a freebie bean! Anyways, I realize perhaps info to be shared in pub category but I thought amusing to share the least. Getting back to subject, the bulb will be the primary source of pinning light and the big sun secondary.
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Re: Window light vs screen [Re: Funfarm] 2
#28636954 - 01/27/24 01:41 PM (17 hours, 59 minutes ago) |
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 Wow this thing is a small bulb, the socket base is standard, but in my opinion, it's not at all a 125 watt equivalent as advertised. Although in the same breath it does say a mere 900 lumen. When it arrived by post in a padded envelope, I thought uh oh, they sent me a mini holiday bulb. I realize my mind is in cannabis mode and not as much pounding light is needed. Grandma thinks the combination of natural sun light for 7 hours a day with the shutters open, the ceiling fan light and the groovy mushroom bulb it's enough. Me I still want to blast the room with light. Although looking at the last pic (shroom light on only), it seems to illuminate the tub quit well, you tell me your opinion.
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