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Poll: Distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion...
    #28603187 - 12/30/23 10:13 AM (28 days, 20 hours ago)

Should the Spirituality & Mysticism forum have subcategories for "Spirituality", "Mysticism", and "Religion"?

Poll added below in this thread here.

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That was an interesting discussion, the (desired) distinctions between mysticism and spirituality even though a few posts per day in here if we're lucky would not seem to justify splitting the forum. edit: (I thought Mods deleted the other thread but they didn't.) That was a good post by Solar at the end I thought, but disagreed with with some use of terminology.



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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28604115 - 12/31/23 03:53 AM (28 days, 3 hours ago)

Oh ok, you deleted it and I accused the mods. :grin:

"yoga, mindfulness meditation, and philosophy", "feel good"

I think my being surprised at the use of these terms can be summed up in frOg, pOnd, plOp! That is tathata which is mindfulness, which is yoga, these certainly pointing to and bringing that ineffable. It is philosophical, from Buddhism, and we all I thought were having a good time talking about it, feeling good.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: syncro]
    #28604124 - 12/31/23 04:09 AM (28 days, 2 hours ago)

Anyway I also don't want to force carrying on the topic if you were done with it. :peace:


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28604324 - 12/31/23 08:29 AM (27 days, 22 hours ago)

Your points are well made. Also I think the esoterically inclined considering themselves as having some experience and learning, see in the exoteric the esoteric. To me when we cover various texts, if worthy (appealing), the words translate to the essence. 

Everything must source in the Ideas which created them. From currently reading Agrippa,

These kinds of operations therefore are performed in these inferiour things by express forms, and in the Heavens by disposing vertues, in Intelligencies by mediating rules, in the original Cause by Idea's, and exemplary forms, all which must of necessity agree in the execution of the effect, and vertue of every thing.

I wouldn't be reading and talking about texts if not in the exercise of revealing the essence, distractions notwithstanding. Also, enjoyment itself is the essence, appreciation. Joy is occult, elusive here in the running wheel. It is equivalent to inner power.

I understand your distinctions as well.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28604603 - 12/31/23 12:53 PM (27 days, 18 hours ago)

No I thought the mods didn't want that when they deleted it, which they didn't. Don't feel the need to remove posting on my account.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28604776 - 12/31/23 03:53 PM (27 days, 15 hours ago)

Quote:

solarshroomster said:
Do you see any difference in the terms "spirituality", "mysticism", and "religion"?




They could be seen as exoteric, middling, and esoteric, like the threefold qualities and many things in threes. They could be seen as three in one, like the Russian dolls contained, the largest or most profound ruling the others.

Impulsively I would like to make them one, but the distinctions can be useful. The ritual, say, can take the subtle form, and that into the profound.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: Nillion]
    #28605551 - 01/01/24 08:47 AM (26 days, 22 hours ago)

What a bunch of party poopers.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: syncro]
    #28605699 - 01/01/24 11:16 AM (26 days, 19 hours ago)

I'm playing. I voted for 3 subforums assuming there would be enough traffic to warrant them, though the same dynamics would occur in the experiment presumably over a longer period of time.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: Asante]
    #28634039 - 01/25/24 06:08 AM (3 days, 56 minutes ago)

It's funny it seems all our plant based intoxicants are insecticides. Reading on that one I was considering some of the esoteric creation theories, where all life here 'below' man is man's creation, or was man. So then we use and enjoy the poisons of that of us we have evolved through.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: syncro]
    #28634076 - 01/25/24 06:59 AM (3 days, 5 minutes ago)

"Tell me, is the following mystical, spiritual, or religious?

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    The Great Way isn’t difficult"

I think the point was to separate more so direct experience. Arguably the quote is or brings directly. Another idea is to have a subforum here under direct experience, or mystical experience.. like the psychedelic experience.


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Re: Discussion, distinctions between mysticism, spirituality, religion... [Re: spinvis]
    #28634199 - 01/25/24 09:19 AM (2 days, 21 hours ago)

"The ordinary experience and life is it."

I think Solar was distinguishing that from profound or unitive experience which in fortune is seen in the ordinary, yet also in such as tripping or meditation can be seen as a different thing.


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