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How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium?
    #28603057 - 12/30/23 08:24 AM (29 days, 6 hours ago)

I'm talking about during colonial slavery by the spanish in Central and south America, the French in Santo domingue (modern day haiti), or the English in North America and colonies as they were growing tobacco, sugar cane, cotton, and other spices but they cultivated psychedelic drugs like shrooms or feel good recreational drugs like weed or opium.

I could see colonial europeans going nuts over these three drugs yet they just preferred tobacco and alcohol and preferred the cash crops I mentioned.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: alkasike96]
    #28603065 - 12/30/23 08:30 AM (29 days, 6 hours ago)

the reasons is racism and wrong subforum.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? (moved) [Re: alkasike96] * 1
    #28603066 - 12/30/23 08:31 AM (29 days, 6 hours ago)

This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.

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better fit as no answer will be cultivation related.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: alkasike96] * 1
    #28603074 - 12/30/23 08:37 AM (29 days, 6 hours ago)

Well considering the spanish "encomienda" system involved torturing natives for practicing their native religions and customs, i find it difficult to beleive that the natives would have attempted to share their sacrament with them.  as such, theres no evidence to suggest that it ever happened.  The spanish and french were consumed with extracting valuable resources like gold and silver.  as such, opium was definately part of their trade lineup and im sure might have been used medicinally, but these forces were primarily militaristic in nature.  I dont think the ranking officers would have tollerated much funny business among the troops.

with regard to cannibis, it wasnt really popularlized for yet another 100 years in the 18th and 19th centuries.  still, even if it had been around my theory remains:  these guys were dicks.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28603075 - 12/30/23 08:40 AM (29 days, 6 hours ago)

:whathesaid:

religious warriors coming to give you death in the name of god.

thats not really a 'hey lets take a time out and grow shrooms and look at the sky' kinda people.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: mushboy]
    #28603076 - 12/30/23 08:41 AM (29 days, 6 hours ago)

dicks dont do druqs


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28603143 - 12/30/23 09:26 AM (29 days, 5 hours ago)

Slave owners didn't cultivate because the slaves were too busy doing it for them.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: christopera]
    #28603215 - 12/30/23 11:10 AM (29 days, 3 hours ago)

Slave owners in colonial North and South America primarily focused on the cultivation of crops like tobacco and cotton because these crops were lucrative cash crops with high market demand. They provided a substantial economic return on investment. The cultivation of psilocybin mushrooms, marijuana, or opium wasnโ€™t as widespread or economically viable during that period. Additionally, the societal and cultural contexts of the time may have influenced crop choices, and there wasnโ€™t as much awareness or demand for substances like psilocybin mushrooms or marijuana in the way we understand them today.



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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: ManianFH] * 1
    #28603278 - 12/30/23 12:23 PM (29 days, 2 hours ago)

Tobacco farms had slaves.




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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: Asante]
    #28603289 - 12/30/23 12:39 PM (29 days, 2 hours ago)

:orly:


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: alkasike96]
    #28603296 - 12/30/23 12:48 PM (29 days, 1 hour ago)

There wasnโ€™t people buying them. Itโ€™s not that people werenโ€™t selling opium. Tobacco was worth so much more money. Everyone was smoking tobacco. It was the most profitable crop to grow. Besides maybe cotton. So thatโ€™s why everyone grew it.

If people understood the potential of the mushrooms. If they actually knew what they were looking for maybe they could have started selling those. But everyone already was smoking a pipe.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28603335 - 12/30/23 01:26 PM (29 days, 1 hour ago)

Pretty sure they grew a shitload of hemp, for ropes on ye olde sailing ships. So..


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: Lynnch]
    #28603344 - 12/30/23 01:32 PM (29 days, 1 hour ago)

I was talking about the mushrooms. Hemp was paper rope clothing all of it.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28603381 - 12/30/23 02:19 PM (29 days, 28 minutes ago)

opium was grown in mass in british colonies in Asia - using labor so cheap they might as well have been slaves.

I don't think mushroom cultivation techniques were advanced or common knowledge back then - to my knowledge only agaricus bisporus was cultivated in the west, and shiitake in the east - natives foraged their mushrooms.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: twighead]
    #28603385 - 12/30/23 02:20 PM (29 days, 26 minutes ago)

Which means there was already too much competition in that market. Tobacco was where it was at.


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28603656 - 12/30/23 06:11 PM (28 days, 20 hours ago)

because it grew for free


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: Yokal] * 4
    #28603659 - 12/30/23 06:13 PM (28 days, 20 hours ago)

How come slave owners didn't synth fentanyl?


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: Asante]
    #28603662 - 12/30/23 06:15 PM (28 days, 20 hours ago)

Would have killed too many custys


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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: alkasike96]
    #28603807 - 12/30/23 08:12 PM (28 days, 18 hours ago)

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Re: How come slave owners didn't cultivate shrooms or weed or opium? [Re: Asante] * 1
    #28604139 - 12/31/23 04:47 AM (28 days, 9 hours ago)

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How come slave owners didn't synth fentanyl?



Because the masters synthesis it to keep them as slaves . Modern day slavery is powered by fentanyl and cheap meth


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