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In 2024, California employers can no longer punish employees for using marijuana outside work * 4
    #28601949 - 12/29/23 08:39 AM (4 months, 18 days ago)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/2024-california-employers-no-longer-130000769.html

Beginning Monday, California employers will be barred from discriminating against employees who use marijuana in their off hours.

Assembly Bill 2188 requires employers to change how they test for marijuana use among employees, using tests that show current impairment and not just past usage. The law carves out some exceptions, such as for those who work in the construction trades.

“Technology to test for marijuana impairment has actually advanced quite a bit, so basically employers can now just test for THC — the psychoactive component in cannabis — and that can show impairment,” said Los Angeles-based attorney Bernard Alexander in a statement. “Most of the older tests detect the non-psychoactive metabolites, which can stay in a person’s system for weeks. So, a worker can test positive when they’re not high or impaired at all.”

California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed AB 2188 into law in September 2022, but a provision of the law prevented it from going into effect until Jan. 1, 2024.

The bill was championed by California NORML, a marijuana advocacy organization, which said in a statement that “not a single, scientifically controlled FDA study has shown cannabis metabolite testing to be effective in improving workplace safety or productivity. Studies indicate that metabolite tests for past use of marijuana are useless in protecting job safety.”

The group pointed to a survey of more than 136,000 Canadian workers that found no association between cannabis use and workplace-related injury, even in high-risk occupations.

The bill was opposed by the California Chamber of Commerce, which argued that employers would face liability by taking legitimate disciplinary measures against employees who use marijuana.

“Put simply: marijuana use is not the same as protecting workers against discrimination based on race or national origin and should not be in (the Fair Employment and Housing Act),” the chamber wrote in its argument.

Alexander noted that employers who disapprove of employees’ use of marijuana even in off hours “will be looking for alternative ways to terminate employees for other reasons, and attorneys who defend those employees will argue those other reasons are just pretexts.”

Los Angeles-based attorney Amy Duerk said that while the law will protect the rights of most workers to use cannabis when not working, it doesn’t preclude employers from keeping their workplace drug-free.

“These laws will push improvements in testing for impairment and psychoactive metabolites in cannabis. Employers will likely step up efforts to train supervisors on impairment testing. Testing will continue to improve to help employers distinguish between recent use of cannabis and non-impairment traces of cannabis,” Duerk said in a statement.

Starting in the new year, California employers will be barred from asking workers about their use of cannabis outside of work, and from discriminating against them because of it.

Two bills signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom in the past couple of years aim to strengthen the state’s legal cannabis industry by updating outdated laws. Assembly Bill 2188, which Newsom signed in 2022, will prohibit employers from using the results of hair or urine tests for marijuana — which can detect traces of cannabis for days or weeks — in their decisions to hire, fire or penalize workers.

When the governor signed AB 2188 along with other cannabis-related bills in 2022, he said in a press release that “rigid bureaucracy and federal prohibition continue to pose challenges to the industry and consumers.”

SB 700, which Newsom signed this year, clarifies AB 2188 by amending the state’s Fair Employment and Housing Act to bar employers from asking job applicants about their prior use of cannabis.

California NORML, a nonprofit organization that advocates for consumer rights related to cannabis, sponsored AB 2188. In its argument supporting the bill, the organization said hair or urine testing for marijuana does not detect actual impairment, a fact the federal government has acknowledged. “Studies indicate that metabolite tests for past use of marijuana are useless in protecting job safety,” the group said.

The exceptions under the AB 2188 would be for workers in the building and construction industry and for job applicants and employees in positions that require a federal background investigation or clearance.

The National Federation of Independent Business lists the new laws among the top five “compliance headaches” for California’s small business owners in 2024. California Chamber of Commerce opposed AB 2188, though it removed its “job killer” label after some revisions, saying before the bill was signed that employers risk liability when they “take legitimate disciplinary measures” against employees. “Employers must be able to keep their workplace safe by disciplining employees who arrive at work impaired,” the group said.

But AB 2188 does not prevent employers from using other tests to detect impairment, such as blood tests.

SB 700 accounts for employers’ rights to ask about an applicant’s criminal history, but the employer may not discriminate against an applicant when it finds information about past use of cannabis related to criminal history unless otherwise permitted by law.

In 1996, California became the first state to legalize marijuana for medicinal purposes, and the state’s voters legalized its recreational use in 2016. Recreational use of marijuana is now legal in 24 states and Washington, D.C.

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Re: In 2024, California employers can no longer punish employees for using marijuana outside work [Re: Nillion]
    #28602756 - 12/29/23 09:47 PM (4 months, 17 days ago)

Quote:

Proverbs 31 said:
...it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink: Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted. Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more. Open thy mouth for the dumb in the cause of all such as are appointed to destruction. Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy.




So, who should be drug testing who?

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Re: In 2024, California employers can no longer punish employees for using marijuana outside work [Re: durian_2008] * 3
    #28603228 - 12/30/23 11:32 AM (4 months, 16 days ago)

So I was really stoked on this law until I found out it's mostly a toothless farce.


Companies can still use oral or blood testing to check for THC in their workers, and if it comes back positive they are still fired.  So if you smoked a joint on Saturday and forgot to brush your teeth, Monday morning you can still test positive at work.  And any company receiving federal funds can opt out of it all.



It's fucking ludicrous that our employers have 24/7 access to our bodily fluids that they can demand at any time and you will lose employment if you refuse.  Fuck America and fuck it's fostering of the drug testing industry.

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Re: In 2024, California employers can no longer punish employees for using marijuana outside work [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28606543 - 01/01/24 11:26 PM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Can't say I've brushed my teeth twice a day every single day my entire life...but I don't think I've ever "forgotten". Let alone for a day and a half. If people are doing this, at least use mouthwash you gross fuckers.

I kind of doubt most employers are going to go around randomly testing people for no reason after this, considering they don't do it now.

I've got no problem with employers testing people where accidents can put other people's lives in danger, especially when they generally only do it after an accident.

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Re: In 2024, California employers can no longer punish employees for using marijuana outside work [Re: Holybullshit]
    #28607674 - 01/02/24 08:21 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

In my experience, under de-criminalization, they simply do not bother to test. They say that you are showing signs of being high on some "thing", according to their educated eye, and proceed with the discipline, without positive proof.

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