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GenesisCorrupted
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The psychology of the bully
#28595357 - 12/23/23 02:21 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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When you present a trait, aspect, intelligence, anything really that someone doesn’t.
You can be subjected to bullying. I find this mostly comes back to either jealousy, or just an animalistic urge to destroy something that’s different.
What can you do about bullying? I think speaking up is the first step. If people are aware of this behavior. They are going to be more willing to try and do something to correct it.
The bully themselves can be changed. It’s just difficult because they don’t want to.
So what can we do when we encounter the bully. Don’t allow it to happen. It’s quite simple, just intervene.
If you see somebody who has nothing to contribute. But they just want to make fun of somebody else. Call them out for their bad behavior.
Because clearly they’re the ones with the problem. Not the person who’s getting bullied.
I don’t feel like it’s excusable in any format. It just shows how close minded or ignorant the person perpetrating it is.
Let’s discuss the motivations for bullying. Then let’s discuss the philosophy of how to get rid of the bully. Then let’s talk about the psychology that would make somebody stop being a bully.
Edited by GenesisCorrupted (12/23/23 02:38 PM)
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GenesisCorrupted said: When you present a trait, aspect, intelligence, anything really that someone doesn’t.
You can be subjected to bullying....
do you mean that we hide our differences to escape being bullied?
that is possible, I have hidden my strangeness to avoid going against the waves of my social cohort (school work etc.), not to the extent of Woody Allen in Zelig (which I thought was brilliant!), but to save upsetting all the sensitive egos around me. Usually I found a way to contribute curiosities that others could use as their own.
I am different, but have rarely been bullied, and I have not picked on the defenseless.
I think the Bully is a kind of black hole of self-esteem-less-ness, who picks on whoever he/she thinks will not fight back.
BTW do you know why the Krampus has bull horns?
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Because he was supposed to be the physical and metaphysical opposite of Santa Claus.
Why did you bring up my avatar when we were discussing bullying? Because I find that quite telling. Once again, trying to diffract attention into questioning my character.
Why do people call others names when they disagree with them?
I think that should’ve been the first question?
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I am fascinated by how people portray themselves in their avatars, with or without sarcasm, (you suggest it relates to the anti-santa meme). then the The psychology of the bully thread pops up, with a twist on victim blaming, such that being an outlier exposes one to bullying which is an urge to harm the different person that we should expect is out there?.
In contrast to your idea, I think the real psychology is not about being a victim, but about being a person of low esteem and lashing out at those who may not fight back.
I am not calling you a bully as such, but - no bull, your new sarcastic avatar has bull horns and your new post is about bullying so <--> ? it's funny, I point out things ok?!
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I never mentioned you at all. But you are implicating yourself. Why are you so defensive?
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Anyone who bullies anyone deserves to be punched in the face is what my grandfather would say.
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28595480 - 12/23/23 04:22 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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GenesisCorrupted said: ... Why do people call others names when they disagree with them?
I think that should’ve been the first question?
in this convo, this question could be ambiguous; or you could be wondering why I was calling you a bully by mentioning your avatar. (and not calling you names at all)
Fine, perhaps it meant something different, my words still mean what I said, and I still find it funny that you don't see a dream symbol in your avatar that popped out in a subsequent thread title that you posted.
Not that such things as dream symbols always mean anything that they might appear to mean.
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I feel like you’re focused too much on me.
Let’s get more macro with our thinking. Think of the larger impacts. Not one individual. But about everybody. Maybe if the bully would think about that. We could move past the need for them to bully.
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I think the typical theory on bullies is that they’re deeply insecure within themselves, possibly sublimating family trauma by lashing out at others to give themselves the feeling of worth and or superiority they’re lacking outside of the school environment, for instance.
I was bullied relentlessly as a kid. Then there was a period in high school I actually became a bit of bully myself—and if I think about it yeah I was trying to compensate for, ohhh, you know, the ceaseless emotional and occasional physical abuse I received from my father.
I quickly dropped the bully act and apologised to everyone I’d been stupid toward.
Interesting thread
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Bullying happens because it's highly effective. You take someone who would outcompete you, who is better than you in some way, and you reduce that threat to zero often for the rest of the person's life. That's why it's common across societies and cultures. It's an instinct to remove the competition, and it's highly effective at doing so.
There are two downsides. One, it's detrimental as an adult to try to bully people in the workplace and in life. People who bully are more likely to have higher degrees of antisocial behavior in general, which holds them back as an adult. Two, the more prevalent bullying is, the more likely that the bully will be bullied themselves, which puts the bully at the same disadvantage that they were trying to cause in others. It's a bucket of crabs type scenario where the more people are doing it, the less helpful it is to the people doing it.
Because it is an instinctual behavior, it'll likely take thousands of years to weed out of the gene pool.
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: nooneman]
#28595648 - 12/23/23 06:37 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: nooneman]
#28595769 - 12/23/23 08:25 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Since when is bullying an instinctual behaviour?
It's sounds premeditated to me, and effort to bring others around you down to feel better about yourself in some way.
I was never bullied, but I never engaged with anyone who seemed to be attempting it. One guy messed with my bag once so I kicked him.
Maybe this analogy won't relate but this thread got me thinking, when people go to prison, if they don't stand up for themselves they're deemed weak, usable etc. And the target is painted.
But if someone comes to prison, is confronted, and stands up for themselves, even if they take a beating, the cost is higher to continue bullying them knowing they won't roll on their back.
Maybe prisons the extreme example, but even in schools, the bully gets something out of it, usually a reaction, so if you don't react emotionally, and don't react in a way that gives the bullying behaviour what it wants.. There's less incentive to do it, atleast to you.
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Them is krampus hornsQuote:
redgreenvines said: I am fascinated by how people portray themselves in their avatars, with or without sarcasm, (you suggest it relates to the anti-santa meme). then the The psychology of the bully thread pops up, with a twist on victim blaming, such that being an outlier exposes one to bullying which is an urge to harm the different person that we should expect is out there?.
In contrast to your idea, I think the real psychology is not about being a victim, but about being a person of low esteem and lashing out at those who may not fight back.
I am not calling you a bully as such, but - no bull, your new sarcastic avatar has bull horns and your new post is about bullying so <--> ? it's funny, I point out things ok?!
Thems is Krampus horns No bull
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: Dick Casino]
#28595936 - 12/24/23 12:30 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Dick Casino said: Them is krampus hornsQuote:
redgreenvines said: I am not calling you a bully as such, but - no bull, your new sarcastic avatar has bull horns and your new post is about bullying so <--> ? it's funny, I point out things ok?!
Thems is Krampus horns No bull
Maybe I chose this avatar because I was going to post this thread in the future.
 Or maybe it’s just because I like spanking naughty people. No memes only Krampus.
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Re: The psychology of the bully [Re: sudly]
#28595970 - 12/24/23 01:40 AM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Righto Mr "Krabs" 
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