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Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
#28593979 - 12/22/23 11:14 AM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Is this huge or just a pathetic, limp PR stunt by the Biden White House for the upcoming elections?
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn] 1
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I give you +1000 odds that it’s a lame PR stunt without looking into it…I feel like something similar happened a few years ago and it was some BS too.
A simple possession charge is jamming very few people up especially nowadays. I’m sure people will argue “it helps them get jobs” “if it even helps ONE person…”.

If they really care, why not pardon people with any NON VIOLENT cannabis charges? Because then the money would stop rolling in, and the show must go on.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
#28594027 - 12/22/23 12:06 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Isn't that what they are doing, all simple possession charges are being pardoned. Idk nothing about us law but wouldn't this help out people that have possession charge hanging over their head who are looking for a job, housing etc?
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
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Yea. Makes sense to me. Better than nothin
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn] 4
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I, Joseph R. Biden Jr., do hereby grant a full, complete, and unconditional pardon to all current United States citizens and lawful permanent residents who, on or before the date of this proclamation, committed or were convicted of the offense of simple possession of marijuana, attempted simple possession of marijuana, or use of marijuana, regardless of whether they have been charged with or prosecuted for these offenses on or before the date of this proclamation
don't disrespect that whether you like or don't like this president.
It's a very big deal.
A large number of people will be positively affected.
Another finger has been slipped into the tight hole of prohibitionism towards legalization.
It's a big deal.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] 5
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How is anybody mad about this? Like seriously? You'd have to be pretty backwards to be mad about less punishment for weed.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
#28594042 - 12/22/23 12:19 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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In Proclamation 10467 of October 6, 2022 (Granting Pardon for the Offense of Simple Possession of Marijuana), I exercised my authority under the Constitution to pardon individuals who committed or were convicted of the offense of simple possession of marijuana in violation of the Controlled Substances Act and [...] (D.C. Code). As I have said before, convictions for simple possession of marijuana have imposed needless barriers to employment, housing, and educational opportunities. Through this proclamation, consistent with the grant of Proclamation 10467, I am pardoning additional individuals who may continue to experience the unnecessary collateral consequences of a conviction for simple possession of marijuana, attempted simple possession of marijuana, or use of marijuana.
They are also in the process (awaiting DEA approval which will likely come) of rescheduling to Schedule 3.
Unfortunately the president does not have the power to force state governments to change their laws or pardon people in those systems.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: christopera]
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christopera said: How is anybody mad about this? Like seriously? You'd have to be pretty backwards to be mad about less punishment for weed.
they trippin'
Historic transition period.
People in the real world are losing their criminal record and the pub is angry.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Asante] 1
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I wouldn't lump the whole Pub into being angry, I just see one user so far who seems angry about it.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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Conversational shenanigans
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Asante]
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No one is mad, he was asking opinions on if it changed much. I don’t think it did
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: theRealrollforever] 2
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Why not make federally legal come on man
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
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So no more bullshit car checks with the excuse the pigs smelled weed or could they still use that excuse as a doi? Again Idk shit about American law but this could change a lot for future arrests and raids. People getting rid of charges is great and all but if it can still be used as an excuse for illegal raids then nothing much has changed.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
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I think the motivation is financial.
petty pot crime is very costly to society. Tax dollars, police and court hours, failed careers.
Weed illegalization is hugely costly to society and - its just smoking flowers of a plant.
Because the government is going down the drain, persecuting pot is a far right hobby they can no longer afford.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn] 1
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Biden copying Trudeau's homework
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn] 2
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Oh, Im definitely voting for Biden next year!!

Thats pretty awesome thou. Lets get that Weed legalized at the Federal Level! Lets go Biden!!!
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: I think the motivation is financial.
We have a winner
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: theRealrollforever] 1
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Isn't the caveat to this that very few people are federally convicted of possession of cannabis
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: twighead] 1
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twighead said: Isn't the caveat to this that very few people are federally convicted of possession of cannabis
Yeah this effects very few people. If you got caught in DC or in a national park, this is for you. There are currently zero federal inmates in prison for possession.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn] 5
#28594941 - 12/23/23 07:37 AM (1 month, 5 days ago) |
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I have a t-shirt that reads: "No one should be be in prison for weed"
I'll try to post a pic. I have it in white and black.

That's how I feel.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
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I'm curious how they ended up with federal charges on simple possession. Where they crossing state lines to purchase? I suppose many of them live near the border.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Eggtimer]
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Eggtimer said: Why not make federally legal come on man
Cause when they do the corporate giants will steal all the business from the smaller businesses below. Those corporate giants will succeed by lobbyists.
And after that happens, see to rise in militant action.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn]
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I would like 2 see paraphernalia No Longer be a chargable crime as well
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: oursoulsinmotion] 6
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Seems like most people didn't read the article. It only impacts federal charges for use or possession on federal lands (Federal parks) and Washington DC and that includes very very few people in the overall scope of things. Almost always possession and usage charges are at the state level
This was a dog and pony show move meant to appeal to both sides of the argument without actually doing something substantial to improve things
I'm not mad about what they did, I'm mad that they bothered to take the time to do something so minor when they could've easily done something that corrected things much more, and they of course want to tout this as a step in the right direction when in fact it changes next to nothing
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: TheStallionMang]
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He can't pardon state charges, obviously. That's a foundational part of how our system works.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Dekozn] 1
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This feels like a little way too late. Why didn’t he do this years ago. I haven’t heard him even mention federal legalization. This is just a cheap attempt to get more voters. He’s already got my vote because of the alternative. But honestly, this just feels lame at best to me. Good for them. But they had to wait this whole time. They didn’t need to wait at all. They should’ve never been in trouble.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: GenesisCorrupted] 2
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GenesisCorrupted said: This feels like a little way too late. Why didn’t he do this years ago. I haven’t heard him even mention federal legalization. This is just a cheap attempt to get more voters. He’s already got my vote because of the alternative. But honestly, this just feels lame at best to me. Good for them. But they had to wait this whole time. They didn’t need to wait at all. They should’ve never been in trouble.
I don't care what his political motives are. I'm focused on people being released.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: loladoreen]
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It’s nothing but good. But why did you wait this long? That’s just bugging me.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
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I mean.. he did do this already a year ago.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Lynnch]
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I’m still waiting on that federal legalization. Because those people could still get in trouble as is. Which makes this feel like an empty gesture to me.
It’s still great for the people that got out. But it doesn’t fix anything.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all Federal-Level Possession Cases [Re: Dekozn]
#28595425 - 12/23/23 03:33 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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This article lays it out nicely: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/what-do-biden-s-weed-pardons-really-mean/ar-AA1lVgEn?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d099284fb54c4d26b4af4b380a37804a&ei=27
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Marijuana is a Schedule I drug, alongside substances like heroin and LSD. Earlier this year, Biden's Department of Health and Human Services issued a recommendation to the Drug Enforcement Agency, which controls the drug schedule, to move it to Schedule III, the same as ketamine and Tylenol with codeine. That wouldn't entirely legalize it - it would still be illegal, per the federal criminal code - but it would make things like tax breaks, interstate commerce, and banking more accessible to cannabis companies. It's on Congress to decriminalize federally. The States Reform Act, a bipartisan bill aimed at decriminalizing cannabis and building a federal framework so states could regulate it like alcohol, was introduced for a second time in October. It didn't make it to a vote in the previous session, but other bills have come closer: In both 2020 and 2022, under Democratic leadership, the House of Representatives passed the MORE Act, which would have decriminalized cannabis under federal law. While the bill never made it to a vote in the Senate, Democrats reintroduced it to the House in September. Until actual decriminalization comes, though, we can only move so far. "The issue is," says Davis, "if we're continuing to arrest people for it, have we really made a difference?"
Biden's pardon of Federal-level Weed possessions could lead to a more Federal level decriminalization effort, which would be awesome! So if Biden gets re-elected in the next term (a long shot, i know), he could pave the way for bigger and better drug legislation on our favorite smokable green herb. I like to think of this pardon as a teaser trailer.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: christopera] 2
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christopera said: How is anybody mad about this? Like seriously? You'd have to be pretty backwards to be mad about less punishment for weed.
They've gotta find anything to be pissed about. Even if it's a net +.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] 3
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Does anyone else find it ironic that Biden is the person who literally penned the war on drugs? Some may think he should not be applauded in any way for starting to undo those massive harms.
He's been quick enough to demand 10's of billions for new wars personally in the senate, but not so quick to undo the war he actually started.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: Northerner] 2
#28597072 - 12/24/23 08:36 PM (1 month, 3 days ago) |
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He's a classic american politician , doing what his handlers think will get him headlines that lead to votes
Regardless I do think it's progress that rich elderly white dudes who used to worry about the dangers of things like marijuana and homosexuals are now being pushed to act like champions for the same causes. Even (some) republicans are starting to be forced into the 21st century, albeit very slowly
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: TheStallionMang] 2
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TheStallionMang said: Seems like most people didn't read the article. It only impacts federal charges for use or possession on federal lands (Federal parks) and Washington DC and that includes very very few people in the overall scope of things. Almost always possession and usage charges are at the state level
This was a dog and pony show move meant to appeal to both sides of the argument without actually doing something substantial to improve things
I'm not mad about what they did, I'm mad that they bothered to take the time to do something so minor when they could've easily done something that corrected things much more, and they of course want to tout this as a step in the right direction when in fact it changes next to nothing
But THIS IS A BIG STEP AND RED POLITICANS ARE MEAN
newsflash: all politics are bullshit for billionaires. If you aren’t a billionaire, you’d be better served tearing down most federal government and trying to put it in the hands of your own community; which is most likely just as retarded and divided on important issues because of BILLIONAIRES owning MEDIA. If you really think the whole thing is ANYTHING BUT a dog and pony show I seriously am jealous. There is no “good” vs “bad”. Just people competing for money and control.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: theRealrollforever] 2
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I’m “angry”, because i just wish I could read bullshit like this and be has happy as the morons that fall for the dog and pony show. It’s not a clever magic trick, you’re just dumb.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: loladoreen]
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loladoreen said: I have a t-shirt that reads: "No one should be be in prison for weed"
I'll try to post a pic. I have it in white and black.

That's how I feel.
Which is an actual position that is contrary to both parties. No democrats will admit it tho. Fuck republicans and fuck democrats. We need a third party that is REALISTIC.
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Re: Biden blanket pardoned all marihuana possession cases [Re: theRealrollforever]
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Here I go again making up crazy theories…a third party? We have an equal chance at world peace!
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