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Re: Anyone running Linux? What distro? [Re: koraks]
    #28597676 - 12/25/23 03:28 PM (1 month, 2 days ago)

I run Debian at home and on my workstation and servers at work. I use the KDE desktop at work and the Cinnamon desktop at home. I have a Windows workstation at home as well for music production, though it never touches the internet.

I was just running Linux at work and Windows at home, but I got sick of cleaning up malware that my family was installing on my home PC. The final straw was about a decade ago when on a fresh Windows install it took a certain family member less than 10 minutes to reinfect our home machine with malware, I wiped it and installed Linux with Cinnamon (for ease of use) and that's what we've been driving since. A few different distros, but always Cinnamon.


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Re: Anyone running Linux? What distro? [Re: huey.bluey]
    #28599593 - 12/27/23 08:49 AM (1 month, 13 hours ago)

It's horses for courses koraks. Like my camera server, WiFi server, proxy and mail server are Linux but my file server, DNS, DC's, demilitarised zone and IP phones are Windows. The ESX clients are Linux, but the backups are a mixture of both
With all the servers I maintain we tend to see better stability on Linux. The Linux ones never need reinstalling from scratch, we just update them in place. Some have been running for 20 years now, literally the same install. Try doing that with Windows.

But I wouldn't suggest trying to run a corporate desktop environment, CAD production workstation, music production workstation or gaming PC on Linux as the software support is lacking.

Also, I'm constantly updating and making complex changes to Windows computers. If we weren't as proactive they'd quite happily fuck themselves over. It's just how windows is because it's such a hulking mass of code built over so long and needs someone to clean up the nonsense and stop the crippleware model.

I really understand why people get into Linux, why root matters to a lot of people. Having control over what your computer actually does is pretty cool. Having it not rearrange itself and install shit you never asked for feels good too. The point being that I don't think for serious computer users just being cool and matrix is what it's about.


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Re: Anyone running Linux? What distro? [Re: huey.bluey] * 2
    #28599954 - 12/27/23 03:30 PM (1 month, 6 hours ago)

There being low amounts of malware created for Linux is a selling point for desktop installations. Your average Joe who just wants to visit some websites, check their email, do online shopping and banking and manage personal photos has good reason to consider Linux over Windows. Not having to deal with antivirus, obfuscated malicious files, online remote control scams and general malicious code is a big deal for these people. General security is a big deal. Clicking the first link on Google search results with Linux will not fuck your computer.

I have family in their 70's who I've given laptop computers to with the same Cinnamon on Debian setup that I have on my general use pc. I didn't have to explain how to use it more than clicking the single update button when it appears, which updates all software on the system. No more support calls or drama. So much simpler than Windows.

Desktop environments have come a long way too, many are very simple and user friendly. It wasn't always like this, and even established power user environments like KDE have had some questionable releases that have made me turn my back on them for years. Gnome is still terrible imo, even though it's the default for many distros.

There really is a whole heap privacy concerns around Windows desktops too. Maybe some people don't care about these privacy concerns, they trust that big tech has their best interests at heart or think they are too small to matter. European governments get it though and are constantly making Microsoft back off, even though individuals can fail to grasp the implications. Microsoft have retaliated by doing things like packaging device USB drivers with their spyware. Sure Europe, you don't have to have all your media scanned by us, but have fun unfucking your computer so it will connect to your mobile phone. Lol.

Linux isn't just small lightweight server ideal, it is the powerhouse that lifts big data. Our internet backbone runs on Linux. Google servers are Linux. Amazon servers are Linux. Facebook servers are Linux... just pick your big data company and their backbone is Linux. Many of these companies don't even bother with Windows domain controllers, they are big enough to get over that, which means their file servers, video servers, IP phones and more don't need Kerberos and are free from the inherent instabilities and vulnerabilities that go with Windows server. Your average company is mostly technically illiterate though, they use the windows ecosystem because the trade between difficulty of implementation and uptime expectations doesn't mean that they need to spend money on hiring people who have the knowledge of these less well known systems. They can pick and choose out of the masses who know windows. It's easier and cheaper to implement, but that's where the advantage ends.

None of that means that your home gamer should use it, nor your lab guy running scientific equipment... they run into significant compatibility issues. Just like malware programmers can't be fucked with Linux most legitimate programmers can't be fucked making their software work on it either.


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Re: Anyone running Linux? What distro? [Re: huey.bluey]
    #28600029 - 12/27/23 04:37 PM (1 month, 5 hours ago)

On my Linux workstations I run older quadro graphics cards, the driver compatibility is fine. Obviously not playing games, the card type isn't even for that.


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