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Help with identifying old mushrooms
    #28589926 - 12/19/23 02:38 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Please help to identify these guys.
This is my first post so hope enough info.

Found in a pot plant with wood chip potting mix in a garden store in New Zealand.

Hard to expand on other details as fully spent and blowen already when found. but I do see some bruising on stems and managed to get a little bit of a spore print.

See pics.

The stems where woody and tough to break, the top/caps crumble now. The bruising was slow, but did happen, and im assuming this would be better as already dryish/finished.

Grown in tight clusters, very wavey too



Cap: range from 20mm to 60mm. Crumbling and red brown to red black.

Spore print color: think brownish redish, darkening over time.

Bruising:
Color that the mushroom bruises, if any? Recon the bruising is dark blueish, going to purple black.

Other information:
Scent of the mushroom? Faint mushroom i suppose.

anything else you think is important? It is early spring, but believe these have recently been transported from a warmer climate.

large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills.




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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness]
    #28589974 - 12/19/23 03:08 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

They're a little fucked up but it's probably psilocybe subaeruginosa. Could also be p.cyanescens, I guess.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #28589996 - 12/19/23 03:21 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I think the striated caps might point away from the more common species.
However the state of these speak against good identification from pictures alone.

I believe there are at least one unidentified NZ Psilocybe species known to fruit in greenhouse plant pots.
If I remember correctly, that is. Haven't seen inski on here in a long time, hopefully he pops by with an educated comment.

For the time being, it would be nice if you kept up the humidity to check if more fruits show up.

Could they perhaps be P. tasmaniana? :shrug:

Nice first post in any case, welcome to the Shroomery. :toast:


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #28590057 - 12/19/23 04:05 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Thanks for the feedback.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Anglerfish]
    #28590070 - 12/19/23 04:10 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Thanks for the Intel. I have re-chipped the top of the pot with clean wood chip, and will repot into a larger pot with a woodchip potting mix mix, and keep watered. Luckily we heading into warmer months, but have had some cold snaps lately. So not sure if that triggered out of season flush.

Added another pic too


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Anglerfish]
    #28590076 - 12/19/23 04:11 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Thanks for the Intel. I have re-chipped the top of the pot with clean wood chip, and will repot into a larger pot with a woodchip potting mix mix, and keep watered. Luckily we heading into warmer months, but have had some cold snaps lately. So not sure if that triggered out of season flush.

Added another pic too


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness]
    #28590081 - 12/19/23 04:13 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Please dry and keep a few in case no more show up and you want someone to study them further.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness] * 1
    #28590117 - 12/19/23 04:32 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I think the pot plant psilocybe is actually P. angulospora.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Dandurn777]
    #28590122 - 12/19/23 04:35 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I can't really tell, at least not from these photos.

I sent inski a :pm: asking for him to take a look.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Dandurn777]
    #28590248 - 12/19/23 06:11 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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I think the pot plant psilocybe is actually P. angulospora.




I think you might be right! Never seen angulospora with wavy caps like this, but it fits. And angulosporas can get wavy caps. Nice one.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #28590262 - 12/19/23 06:21 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

These are Psilocybe in Section Semilanceata and quite closely related to semilanceata.

They are one of the ones that were unofficially called ‘Psilocybe tasmaniana’ for a while.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Mycoangulo]
    #28590277 - 12/19/23 06:31 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Mycoangulo said:
They are one of the ones that were unofficially called ‘Psilocybe tasmaniana’ for a while.




The same then as the ones named P. tasmaniana on several MO observations?

Or something different?


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Anglerfish] * 1
    #28590311 - 12/19/23 06:52 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Wow, great response. Thanks for that all that piped in.
Here's another pot plant mushroom I just saw while buying garden supplies. I will do a spore print and full post in next few days, but any quick thoughts that I can research?


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness]
    #28590315 - 12/19/23 06:54 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Interconnectedness said:
Wow, great response. Thanks for that all that piped in.
Here's another pot plant mushroom I just saw while buying garden supplies. I will do a spore print and full post in next few days, but any quick thoughts that I can research?





Search "psilocybe angulospora"!


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Psilosadhu]
    #28590319 - 12/19/23 06:59 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Cheers... I will do my homework.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness]
    #28590354 - 12/19/23 07:21 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Interconnectedness said:
Wow, great response. Thanks for that all that piped in.
Here's another pot plant mushroom I just saw while buying garden supplies. I will do a spore print and full post in next few days, but any quick thoughts that I can research?





Wow, you'll definitely have to increase your potted plant buying budget!:bigjoint:

That looks quite like P. angulospora, indeed.
Possibly then you got the same ones yourself.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness]
    #28590364 - 12/19/23 07:27 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Yep, the second set are definitely Psilocybe angulospora.

Anglerfish, yes, though I don’t know if they are Al the same. I’m not saying they aren’t though. I’m not sure.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Mycoangulo]
    #28590369 - 12/19/23 07:29 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

If you get a visible print from the angulospora keel it clean and keep it.

Psilocybe angulospora in New Zealand rarely produce visible prints, and so prints are in short supply.


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Mycoangulo]
    #28590547 - 12/19/23 09:27 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Tin foil is best to keep safe, no?


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Re: Help with identifying old mushrooms [Re: Interconnectedness]
    #28590565 - 12/19/23 09:36 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Tinfoil is the way to go :thumbup:


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