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    #28589833 - 12/19/23 01:19 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Storage unit life took a turn for the worst yesterday. Was out with the lady and kid and a person wanted to buy a tote of tools I had for sale. Decided to make a pit stop during errands and help him “fix his truck” despite not really wanting to deal with it. He said he needed a couple things I had.

Upon arrival to his house he started going through the tote, pulled out a screwdriver, and said I robbed him. That all of it was his. He was taking it all and if I tried anything he would file charges for receiving stolen property.

I didn’t know where the law stood on buying auction goods, so I buckled. I also didn’t really want stabbed in front of my family. The dude tried telling me I was going to go home and retrieve every item he put on a list, or I was getting arrested.

I pretty much snapped without attacking. I told him what a deceptive pos he was, and he could’ve went about this like an adult. I quite honestly would’ve worked with him if he could prove he wasn’t hustling me. I asked for an apology and a civil ordeal. He told me to fuck off and bring him his shit.

I called the cops after, turns out even if the entire storage unit is hot, I bought it fair and square and no law protects the people that lose their stuff in regards.


The cop went over to the guys house and got the tote back and refused to press charges. They said I can go to the prosecutor’s office if it meant something to me. I’m furious about the way this guy handled things. I doubt I’ll go ruin his life. People fucking suck. He also never proved it was his.


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: vandago]
    #28589904 - 12/19/23 02:22 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

So all of the stuff in his old storage unit were already stolen? Thats ironic!

Some people fuckin' suck. I know the feeling all to well :nonono:


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28589942 - 12/19/23 02:53 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

That’s where there were a lot of unclear things. Like whether or not that was his unit, what was actually his, what he thought he was doing.

The whole thing was twacked as fuck.

It’s funny because that’s the first unit I posted pics of in my storage thread, and it’s the one unit we’ve been like “whoever owned this stuff is the dirtiest dumbest tweeked out fucker ever” his tools and stuff have been a non stop conversation piece because some of it’s def stolen, and it’s all mucky and malfunctioning. Half of it’s taking apart, everything’s missing something. All the knives are bent with broken tips, all the watches and clocks are dismantled and the hands removed. There’s a lot of “this fuckin guy strikes again” when I go to use or sell some of it…. and of course he appears in real life.


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: vandago]
    #28589975 - 12/19/23 03:08 PM (1 month, 9 days ago)

Damn yo! Sounds like a tweaker from Hell :baseballfuck:


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28589978 - 12/19/23 03:11 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Sucks cause when you fill out a statement it’s public record, and had my address on it. I couldn’t not file a report though.


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: vandago]
    #28589985 - 12/19/23 03:14 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Idk if you got the tools back it's whatever. Obviously fuck that guy but I don't think there's really much to gain but more hassle with trying to follow thru on charges :shrug:


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28589998 - 12/19/23 03:23 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I’m most likely going to let it die.

He spent the whole night messaging me about his guns, calling me a faggot and a pussy and a thief. He concocted this story that my wife was the one who broke into his garage and I’m trying to sell him back his tools ( he got a hold of me ). The whole thing was beyond sketchy, and the hate speech towards me when I was trying to be civil are why I got the police involved. He was clearly about to get racist ontop of the homophobia. The whole thing just kept escalating through text so much I just wanted it to end.

Even if the shit was stolen from him, the dudes a real life piece of shit on how he treats people, and all his shit is downright filthy and broken.


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: vandago]
    #28590006 - 12/19/23 03:35 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Yeah well then that's sounding like the guy did get robbed and truely believes it was you. Obviously also this guy is an unhinged maniac so I would say just move on. Yhe cops took a report and stuff so if anything happens you already know what time it is. :sadyes:


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28590016 - 12/19/23 03:40 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Honestly he disrespected me so bad, I’d rather have fought him more than anything. He insulted me for an entire 24 hours straight just running his mouth.


Last year a similar situation happened with a member  of the local bloods and I. I posted some baseball cards for sale, and this dudes chick got ahold of me and said that was stolen along with a tote of semi autos, car parts, car keys, etc. just a really messy situation to be in the middle of.

However, their story checked out, and they were super chill and honest with me and extremely grateful I helped them out. I gave them back everything I had that was theirs we could locate.

That’s usually the kind of person I am.

This dude, however, I really had to restrain myself from not making light work out of him. I’m getting a lot more patient and wiser, and I’m taking no shit anymore.


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: vandago] * 2
    #28590024 - 12/19/23 03:46 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Lock your doors and windows well.
If you got a gun, load it and keep it near.

What an asshole.

Sounds like a lying jerk who might just stab you over whatever.
or drive by and shoot at your house.

Do the cops know he threatened you with getting guns?


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: Asante]
    #28590034 - 12/19/23 03:54 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I showed the cops all the messages. Despite me asking the dude 7 times to stop harassing me, the dude messaging me about guns randomly at 3:30 am, and then me waking up to “pussy” “faggot” over and over, I just figured I don’t have time to tell with this. He bad mouthed my kid and lady too.

A few people are egging me on to ruin his life, but I just hate the system with a passion and don’t want to feed into it.


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Re: Got robbed! [Re: vandago] * 2
    #28590043 - 12/19/23 03:59 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

P.s my doors are always locked, I have a pack of dogs and a baseball bat or weapon in reach of me at all times, and an outdoor security system.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #28590483 - 12/19/23 08:37 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

That's the kind of thing that makes not even want to deal with strangers.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 4
    #28590498 - 12/19/23 08:51 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Yeah, I don’t follow people to another location.
I’ve heard too many people getting screwed over like that.
How about this little gem…
My uncle is driving across the country. He has his two kids.
He stops over at a gas station. He lets the kids go inside they’re getting some snacks. He’s fueling up the truck.

Then comes the man. He says he’s having some car trouble. He needs some help. “Can I get a jump?”

Genuinely really nice guy. Of course he wants to help. “Where are you?”

The guy tells him to meet him back behind a building he points to.
“ I’m parked over there, I’ll be waiting.”

Well, he gets the kids back into the truck. They have their snacks. He goes and drives over behind the building. The guy is there and he looks really unhappy to see my uncle.
There’s also no car…

“ dude you didn’t say you had kids.”

My uncle says.
“ where is your car are are you ready for that jump?”

“ no man, I didn’t know you had kids. Never mind you can just go away. Get out of here.”

That guy was going to carjack my uncle at gunpoint. He actually had a moral conscience and didn’t want to do it in front of his kids. So they got to drive away…
Never follow them to a second location.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #28590557 - 12/19/23 09:33 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Just reading this story makes me unreasonably angry. You're a saint for taking it so well.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 5
    #28590823 - 12/20/23 05:24 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Yeah, I don’t follow people to another location.
I’ve heard too many people getting screwed over like that.
How about this little gem…






The cops call this "crime scene number two" and warn that they often see in the really bad crime that the perpetrator took the victim to another place where the worst crime was committed, so yes, never let them take you to another place.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 2
    #28590873 - 12/20/23 06:29 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I have lost so much to thieves and I relate
It sucks


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: nooneman]
    #28590995 - 12/20/23 08:17 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Just reading this story makes me unreasonably angry. You're a saint for taking it so well.





Honestly as I woke today. I’m pretty sure I’m calling the prosecutor and pushing for charges. That scum cuck knew I had my daughter with me. I asked specifically if this was important so I could do it the following day without her. He assured me it was of upmost importance. He had me cased, then threatened me with guns and called me a faggot.

I thought I’d be calmer today, but I’m actually even more pissed the cops didn’t do anything.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28590996 - 12/20/23 08:23 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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Yeah, I don’t follow people to another location.
I’ve heard too many people getting screwed over like that.
How about this little gem…
My uncle is driving across the country. He has his two kids.
He stops over at a gas station. He lets the kids go inside they’re getting some snacks. He’s fueling up the truck.

Then comes the man. He says he’s having some car trouble. He needs some help. “Can I get a jump?”

Genuinely really nice guy. Of course he wants to help. “Where are you?”

The guy tells him to meet him back behind a building he points to.
“ I’m parked over there, I’ll be waiting.”

Well, he gets the kids back into the truck. They have their snacks. He goes and drives over behind the building. The guy is there and he looks really unhappy to see my uncle.
There’s also no car…

“ dude you didn’t say you had kids.”

My uncle says.
“ where is your car are are you ready for that jump?”

“ no man, I didn’t know you had kids. Never mind you can just go away. Get out of here.”

That guy was going to carjack my uncle at gunpoint. He actually had a moral conscience and didn’t want to do it in front of his kids. So they got to drive away…
Never follow them to a second location.


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I’m not sure where you read I followed him to another location? He wanted to meet at a gas station and instead I asked for his physical address.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #28591055 - 12/20/23 09:08 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I meant that you drove to his house.
He could’ve pulled out a gun.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 2
    #28591087 - 12/20/23 09:31 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

Yah the gas station would have been the better thing. That way when he menaced you there would have been other people around or like camera and stuff. Now it's like what evidence do you have on any of this. That why I was like pressing charges is gonna be maybe more trouble than it's worth because he's just gonna lie and say none of it happened and then it's all hearsay. :shrug:


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL] * 1
    #28591125 - 12/20/23 09:56 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

He not only admits to robbing me through text, but he then threatens me through text, and slurs hate speech through text. Everything is documented. I also timestamped my arrival at his house, and like I also said my fiancé is a clean sober witness with no criminal record. She was in the passenger seat.

She also helped me clean the storage unit out, and the facility has footage of me loading the car with the items as well as photos from before. Lemme see if I can load the conversation up ( the shroomery never lets me upload screen shots )


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #28591134 - 12/20/23 10:08 AM (1 month, 8 days ago)

https://albums.memento.com/Asshole

It’s also not him that asks for the second location. It’s me. I know that area, and that circle k is notorious dope boy land. I generally felt like the dude needed help, and I didn’t want him to have to walk with a 30 gallon tote full of tools. In all my travels I should’ve done this differently on this part, but asking him to meet anywhere seemed like it was putting him out. My goal with my business is to help people before profit, and the profit just happens. It’s worked my whole life, but also causes me to be a victim on occasion.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28592209 - 12/21/23 03:04 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

Kinda difficult to follow the story/messages, so apologies if I have my wires crossed here.

Did you contact/message this guy after he had robbed you at knife (screwdriver) point?

Reading those messages I honestly thought he was you for a while!

FWIW I'd suggest when dealing with a psychopath, or criminal, to have no contact with them whatsoever. It's not worth it even if it means letting them win.

You don't want them making you their little pet project!


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: wolf8312]
    #28592231 - 12/21/23 04:02 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

The cool thing about my gun is that it makes screw drivers really not all that scary.


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    #28592495 - 12/21/23 08:50 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

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Kinda difficult to follow the story/messages, so apologies if I have my wires crossed here.

Did you contact/message this guy after he had robbed you at knife (screwdriver) point?

Reading those messages I honestly thought he was you for a while!

FWIW I'd suggest when dealing with a psychopath, or criminal, to have no contact with them whatsoever. It's not worth it even if it means letting them win.

You don't want them making you their little pet project!





I loaded them in order, but it’s all jumbled.

The most I go in slander is calling him a dipshit and an idiot. It would kinda have to be linear to tell when he robbed me etc

The only reason I continued to communicate with him, was my intentions of actually providing him his stuff back. He then goes off the wall calling me a thief a junkie and blaming my chick. Calls me a faggot and a pussy threatening to lock me up.



Also, as far as packing heat. I have 8 felonies. I can’t carry a gun. I’m working on getting them expunged. Also, the screwdriver feared me not. I was afraid that in some ridiculous world he was right, and I may have received stolen property. No one had given me a clear answer prior to this what the deal was if I found stolen goods in a storage unit. I now know in 100 protected by the law. Had I known this during this situation I most likely would’ve wrapped the dude up.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28592579 - 12/21/23 10:02 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

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if the entire storage unit is hot



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If the contents of an overdue storage unit are bought at auction and they turn out to be stolen, it can lead to a complicated legal situation. Here's a general outline of what might happen:

1. Discovery of stolen property: If the buyer of the storage unit contents discovers that the items are stolen, they would typically be expected to report it to the police. The authorities will likely investigate the matter to determine the origin of the stolen goods.

2. Return to original owner: If the rightful owner of the stolen items is identified, they will need to provide proof of ownership, such as receipts or serial numbers. The stolen goods would then be returned to their original owner, and the buyer of the storage unit contents would not be entitled to any refund.

3. Reimbursement for the buyer: In some cases, the buyer of the storage unit might be able to seek reimbursement or some form of compensation from the storage facility. This would depend on the specifics of the storage agreement and any relevant laws. Legal advice may be necessary to navigate this process.

4. Criminal charges: If the individual who originally stored the stolen items is identified, they could face criminal charges for theft, burglary, or any other relevant offense. The authorities would handle the investigation and potential prosecution.

It's important to note that the exact legal process and outcomes may vary based on the jurisdiction and specific circumstances. Talking to a lawyer would be advisable to understand the applicable laws and next steps in such a situation.





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    #28592838 - 12/21/23 02:37 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

And where did you read that?


Like I’ve already stated. I’ve talked to lawyers cops and prosecutors on this.

In Ohio you can not receive stolen property in an unloading manner. If I buy all said items from an auction under the thought it’s all legit, it’s mine regardless of if it’s stolen.

The cop literally went to this guys house and brought me all of my stuff back.


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    #28592861 - 12/21/23 02:52 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

The dude could probably sue me and get his shit back. He’d have to have a lot of proof to win.

Charges are already being pressed on the original owner of the unit.

However, the cops told me this dude is full of shit. And none of it’s his.

The tote even says “property of cvs, if found return” and the cop still got it back for me.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28593445 - 12/21/23 09:38 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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And where did you read that?





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I am not a legal expert, per se. I was just curious.

Quote:

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Like I’ve already stated. I’ve talked to lawyers cops and prosecutors on this.





Based on personal observation, the first person they investigate is the one making the report.

Secondly, some defendants have all their ducks lined up, in terms of legalese. Yet, are not honored by the presumptive authorities.

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In Ohio you can not receive stolen property in an unloading manner. If I buy all said items from an auction under the thought it’s all legit, it’s mine regardless of if it’s stolen.





Formally speaking, you are outgunned. It doesn't matter whether you are right.

But, it is technically unproven, whether the property has been stolen.

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The cop literally went to this guys house and brought me all of my stuff back.




I think it's quaint, when they can accomplish their intended purpose of being good guys, in a friendly common law kind of way, but you still have this loose end.


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    #28593459 - 12/21/23 09:57 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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    #28593472 - 12/21/23 10:10 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28593485 - 12/21/23 10:34 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I feel you. I just read through this whole thing. You sound like a real nice, patient person. I’d advise you to stay that way. I let it get away from me and now I’m and angry old cynic. Ha! My advice to you as a reasonable, patient, compassionate, understanding human being, is to just let it slide and ignore this guy. He knows he’s wrong and is just trying to intimidate you into backing off. His life is already ruined. You’re wasting time trying to ruin it more.  But the other side of me is advising you to burn this MFr’s life to the ground. No matter the cost.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: HazMatt] * 1
    #28593549 - 12/22/23 12:22 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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I feel you. I just read through this whole thing. You sound like a real nice, patient person. I’d advise you to stay that way. I let it get away from me and now I’m and angry old cynic. Ha! My advice to you as a reasonable, patient, compassionate, understanding human being, is to just let it slide and ignore this guy. He knows he’s wrong and is just trying to intimidate you into backing off. His life is already ruined. You’re wasting time trying to ruin it more.  But the other side of me is advising you to burn this MFr’s life to the ground. No matter the cost.




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Re: Got robbed. [Re: wolf8312] * 1
    #28593629 - 12/22/23 05:20 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

In the forestry/residential tree work business, there are a lot of crackheads selling sketchy saws. Im scared to buy anything second hand, because there are so many stolen saws out on marketplace. Is anyone else on sad sales sketchy services and stolen goods on facebook?


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #28593792 - 12/22/23 08:01 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I've literally never had an issue or heard anyone i directly know having an issue but I literally approach every one of these situations like the guy is either trying to rip me off or straight rob me. There's not much to a saw so a little bit of looking around at her will tell you 90% of what your dealing with. That being said im sure there's alot of stolen shit on there and that is a risk but I'm sure most of the time it's just someone who wants money for their thing. That and I was just so shocked by what people would actually buy. One of my former friends went off the deep end with heroin and for a while he would just sell absolute junk to people I shit I would be like no way is anyone gonna buy that but sure enough in like a half an hour there would be some polish or Mexican guy or something digging thru it buying like rusted ass tools and shit for $5. Come to think of it my other buddy Jimmy the junk who is interestingly is also on alot of heroin and is a removalist also does the same thing where he just sells people junk but he's actually really good with engines so if u bought a saw off him sure he probably got it out of a junk pile the thing would probably run better than when it was new. So I mean there's all kinda ways people come across stuff or want to sell yhier used stuff I think you just have to be careful and smart about stuff and meet people that seem sketchy or for big price stuff in public or at the police station online transaction areas. :sadyes:


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28593823 - 12/22/23 08:45 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

When it comes to stolen saws and tweakers you can usually tell by the post. Most of these tweakers have a big collection of super expensive saws for dumb cheap. Like brand new Stihl 200 climbers for a couple hundred bucks, or a big husky 3120 for under a grand. I'm not as worried about getting a dud saw as I am about getting a stolen item.

As for your friend, I've known several people like that, who can just turn chicken shit into chicken salad and make money off it. I wish I was a little more savvy at small engine repair because I come across a lot of junk that could be fixed and sold.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28593829 - 12/22/23 08:54 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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In the forestry/residential tree work business, there are a lot of crackheads selling sketchy saws. Im scared to buy anything second hand, because there are so many stolen saws out on marketplace. Is anyone else on sad sales sketchy services and stolen goods on facebook?




I have drone tree work and sold plants on there.

Most of the leftover pieces can grow roots.

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sure enough in like a half an hour there would be some polish or Mexican guy or something digging thru it buying like rusted ass tools and shit for $5.




We don't let them on the property. There is a red sign on the gate saying to beware of the guard dogs, which alert to someone coming. Customers are met in the driveway, because I am big. I would tell ladies to do these exchanges in a public place, except these dirt people don't keep time in a civilized way.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: durian_2008]
    #28593879 - 12/22/23 09:57 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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And where did you read that?





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I am not a legal expert, per se. I was just curious.

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Like I’ve already stated. I’ve talked to lawyers cops and prosecutors on this.





Based on personal observation, the first person they investigate is the one making the report.

Secondly, some defendants have all their ducks lined up, in terms of legalese. Yet, are not honored by the presumptive authorities.

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In Ohio you can not receive stolen property in an unloading manner. If I buy all said items from an auction under the thought it’s all legit, it’s mine regardless of if it’s stolen.





Formally speaking, you are outgunned. It doesn't matter whether you are right.

But, it is technically unproven, whether the property has been stolen.

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The cop literally went to this guys house and brought me all of my stuff back.




I think it's quaint, when they can accomplish their intended purpose of being good guys, in a friendly common law kind of way, but you still have this loose end.





Dude have you read anything I’ve posted? I’m not “outgunned?” What the hell are you talking about lmao. The law is, and has been on my side through the entire ordeal. They filed a report on the dude, and got my stuff back and personally handed it to me.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #28594163 - 12/22/23 02:45 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Dude have you read anything I’ve posted? I’m not “outgunned?”




You are not legally allowed to take manners into your own hands.

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They filed a report on the dude, and got my stuff back and personally handed it to me.




I said that was nice.

Are you at risk of interacting with this person in the future, through no fault of your own?


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28594232 - 12/22/23 03:52 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Dude. What are you talking about. He robbed me. I then called the police. I never once took matters into my own hands, if I would’ve he’d be dead.


This person would be a fucking idiot to interact with a dude my size again. He’d have to go out of his way to find me.


Also, the town this happened in, my dad was a patrolman, and my brother is currently a deputy for that county. I’m far from outgunned. The dudes a fucking idiot:


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 5
    #28594306 - 12/22/23 04:59 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Also. As far as taking the law into my own hands.

I think in my age, doing something like dumping 20 lbs of birdseed through out his lawn, or making 500 business cards that say “I sure like suckin cock” with his phone number on it would be inappropriate.

Edit: typo. ‘Twas to say “inappropriate “


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 2
    #28595171 - 12/23/23 11:54 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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He’d have to go out of his way to find me.




Then, you understood my concern. :thumbup:


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: durian_2008]
    #28595495 - 12/23/23 04:34 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

This dude has a family and his first go to was calling the cops on me for “stealing” his stuff. He’s not going to do anything. He’s a moron.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: durian_2008]
    #28614224 - 01/08/24 03:32 PM (19 days, 23 hours ago)

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He’d have to go out of his way to find me.




Then, you understood my concern. :thumbup:




Well that’s taking place now.

The idiots having idiots message me fishing for my address, so I’ve had to nix business entirely.

I’m considering going to the clerk of courts and filing a formal affidavit myself.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28614226 - 01/08/24 03:34 PM (19 days, 23 hours ago)

:shrug:
You could have fun with them, and just gaslight them.

Give them like really shady addresses to go check out. Like scary abandoned warehouses.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28614288 - 01/08/24 04:56 PM (19 days, 22 hours ago)

Isn't a situation like OP a prime example of how to use guns in America?  If OP had carried a gun he would still have all of his stuff.  What's the point of being able to own guns if you're not going to take advantage of it?  You Americans are walking contradictions sometimes.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Patlal]
    #28614298 - 01/08/24 05:14 PM (19 days, 21 hours ago)

You can’t shoot someone on their own property for walking away with tools.


Even with a screwdriver they wouldn’t say I was endangered.

As I mentioned there was a truck speaking with him on the side of the road. I’m guessing they had the drop on me.

I come to find out today that he actually had a child endangerment charge dropped that morning, in conjunction with an off road wreckless op charge that stuck. So the dude originally messaged me on the 8th casing me to take his shit the second that he walked out of court.


My biggest mistake was calling the cops and not handling it myself.

The issue now lays in limbo, and he really has more advantage than I do, because he is willing to put kids in danger.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28614318 - 01/08/24 05:31 PM (19 days, 21 hours ago)

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:shrug:
You could have fun with them, and just gaslight them.

Give them like really shady addresses to go check out. Like scary abandoned warehouses.





The problem there, is I could wreck my business just responding to them. I’m trying to move away from fb marketplace all together and go for consignment shops, but that’s even proving to be difficult. I was doing the best on eBay, but fb bst is a quicker way to accrue without fees.  You can rate someone just by engaging with them in a marketplace chat, and I’m currently at 5 stars


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28614322 - 01/08/24 05:35 PM (19 days, 21 hours ago)

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You can’t shoot someone on their own property for walking away with tools.


Even with a screwdriver they wouldn’t say I was endangered.

As I mentioned there was a truck speaking with him on the side of the road. I’m guessing they had the drop on me.

I come to find out today that he actually had a child endangerment charge dropped that morning, in conjunction with an off road wreckless op charge that stuck. So the dude originally messaged me on the 8th casing me to take his shit the second that he walked out of court.


My biggest mistake was calling the cops and not handling it myself.

The issue now lays in limbo, and he really has more advantage than I do, because he is willing to put kids in danger.





Who said anything about shooting him?  He bluffed you with a screwdriver, you out bluff him with a gun.  99% sure he would have given you back YOUR shit.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Patlal]
    #28614336 - 01/08/24 05:46 PM (19 days, 21 hours ago)

I’m 💯 not afraid of a tweeker with a screwdriver. I’m 💯 against traumatizing a child. She was asleep in the back seat. If I had a truck somewhere watching me, and pull a gun on this dude, and truck guy fires into my back, my daughter isn’t going to be thrilled.

The screwdriver did not scare me. The unknown tweeker in the truck was the variable, and I don’t think a gun was the solution to that equation.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28614337 - 01/08/24 05:47 PM (19 days, 21 hours ago)

Unless of course I had intelligently brought a caravan of homies.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28614558 - 01/08/24 09:13 PM (19 days, 17 hours ago)

You need to assert your dominance over this guy so he stops disrespecting you.
Have you tried pissing on his garden?


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: azzbo]
    #28614987 - 01/09/24 08:56 AM (19 days, 6 hours ago)

You should see this tweeker house. His lawn is 8 inches of filth and mud. All the tools are dismantled and put back together. Literally everything is broken and missing pieces. He doesn’t have a garden cause he hasn’t mastered growing meth yet.


That’s why I figured 50 lbs of birdseed, and 50 pounds of cat food would be ideal.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28615059 - 01/09/24 10:00 AM (19 days, 5 hours ago)

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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 2
    #28615060 - 01/09/24 10:04 AM (19 days, 5 hours ago)

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I’m 💯 not afraid of a tweeker with a screwdriver.




between you and me that makes one of you.

a screwdriver is a heavy duty stabbing tool

tweekers often are half psychotic.

very lethal combi, like a monkey with a pistol.

most knives in reality arent so stabby as they look, but all screwdrivers are and with very little effort.

a screwdriver is the stabbing tool equivalent of a .22 LR

Also: someone with s acrewdriver is not showboating a shiny blade. there is pure unceremonious intent to stab with it.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Asante]
    #28615188 - 01/09/24 12:20 PM (19 days, 2 hours ago)

I agree, Asante.
Heck, even your normal door key can be a weapon.  Imagine thrusting your key as hard as you can into someone's neck... that could be fatal. 
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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Asante]
    #28615262 - 01/09/24 01:10 PM (19 days, 1 hour ago)

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I’m 💯 not afraid of a tweeker with a screwdriver.




between you and me that makes one of you.

a screwdriver is a heavy duty stabbing tool

tweekers often are half psychotic.

very lethal combi, like a monkey with a pistol.

most knives in reality arent so stabby as they look, but all screwdrivers are and with very little effort.

a screwdriver is the stabbing tool equivalent of a .22 LR

Also: someone with s acrewdriver is not showboating a shiny blade. there is pure unceremonious intent to stab with it.





I’ve had a thing or two pulled on me before.

If someone is prepared to use something like that, they do. This dude standing on the other side of a tote holding a tool is something I could handle. I used to fight, a lot. It’s not something I’m bragging about…. And anyways.

None of that matters as to what I should DO. The situation happened exactly how it happened, with a complete lack of fear of a screwdriver. That was the only outcome, because it’s in the past.

Currently, however, I continue to wake up vengeful, and I still haven’t gotten the lazy cops lazy supervisor on the phone.


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    #28615494 - 01/09/24 04:55 PM (18 days, 22 hours ago)

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Isn't a situation like OP a prime example of how to use guns in America?  If OP had carried a gun he would still have all of his stuff.  What's the point of being able to own guns if you're not going to take advantage of it?  You Americans are walking contradictions sometimes.



Yeah there's a very small amount of scenarios where you won't be brought up on murder charges. Stealing tools and fleeing isn't one of them.


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Isn't a situation like OP a prime example of how to use guns in America?  If OP had carried a gun he would still have all of his stuff.  What's the point of being able to own guns if you're not going to take advantage of it?  You Americans are walking contradictions sometimes.



Yeah there's a very small amount of scenarios where you won't be brought up on murder charges. Stealing tools and fleeing isn't one of them.





Exactly. The person holding a screwdriver and then walking off with said tools wouldn’t even be a reason to pull out a gun. If the gun isn’t necessary, it’s not necessary. There’s no jury in the world that would side with someone that flashed a pistol because someone tried walking away with $100, unless the thief also had a visible gun and my life was in danger.


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    #28616528 - 01/10/24 03:16 PM (17 days, 23 hours ago)

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Isn't a situation like OP a prime example of how to use guns...




Yes.

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...in America?




No.


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You Americans are walking contradictions sometimes.




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    #28616538 - 01/10/24 03:27 PM (17 days, 23 hours ago)

This guy didn’t strike me as an attacker. He struck me as a methed out predator that strikes when someone’s at a low point. The kind of person that will gang stalk and try to tank your biz if you don’t see his side as being the correct one. His tools already spoke of his nature. All the knives had broken tips. All the watches were missing their hands. All the mechanics gutted, wires everywhere, dismantled everything and not a single set complete, nothing actually rebuilt, nothi bc fixed. All scrap. All the jewelry turned out to be fake. The whole unit was a perplexing head fuck. Like a hoarder that would’ve had his own death in “saw”. There was even a mop bucket filled to the brim with rotten beef and milk ( the jugs and packs having beside it ) cover it gnats and maggots. It was one of the worst things I’ve ever smelled.

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    #28616558 - 01/10/24 03:47 PM (17 days, 23 hours ago)

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if you don’t see his side as being the correct one




I don't.

The most legal and politically correct thing I have to contribute to this discussion, at this point, is that I prefer business to business dealings. The kind of ethos in which hapless bystanders are protected but there are some door stoops where you don't defecate.



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if you don’t see his side as being the correct one




I don't.

The most legal and politically correct thing I have to contribute to this discussion, at this point, is that I prefer business to business dealings. The kind of ethos in which hapless bystanders are protected but there are some door stoops where you don't defecate.






I didn’t mean you personally. Anyone in general. This guy was too stupid to be wrong.

Your contribution coincides with my current path in business. I found a very reputable thrift store to start holding my entire inventory and selling it for me at 50%. They can sell junk I couldn’t possibly. I sold all my figurines, all my glass, all my kitchen ware, everything. They’re even selling some of my jewelry at retail, and had I scrapped it wouldn’t be getting nearly as much.

There’s a contract agreement and honesty, and quite frankly dealing with them has been very proper thus far, and they’re aiding in my taxes with great advice.

There’s not a whole lot to break in my house for. The stuff I’m selling isn’t worth a robbery, and would take too long to move. Plus with the multiple 75 lb dogs and cameras, it’s not a likely move. Even if they got in, it would be like jumping into a wood chipper once we were done with them.


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    #28616565 - 01/10/24 03:57 PM (17 days, 23 hours ago)

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I didn’t mean you personally. Anyone in general.




No offense taken.

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Your contribution coincides with my current path in business...it would be like jumping into a wood chipper once we were done with them.




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    #28616575 - 01/10/24 04:05 PM (17 days, 23 hours ago)

That stories been making rounds and pretty much across the board it’s “you had a chance to kill him and you didn’t take it?”

I couldn’t in good conscience fight in front of a baby. That’s not a way to think. I couldn’t traumatize someone immediately into this already traumatic world.

Now when she’s older, and understands this world… I could see that situation being drastically different. That guy caught me at my weakest moment, and it truly shows the kind of people that exist.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28616578 - 01/10/24 04:11 PM (17 days, 22 hours ago)

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I couldn’t in good conscience fight in front of a baby.




There is a lot that I would shield people from if I could.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: durian_2008]
    #28616842 - 01/10/24 08:05 PM (17 days, 19 hours ago)

Luckily I was able to shield and turn around on this. It’s why I’m just going to be a little broker. I was pulling in thousands off marketplace regularly. Between that and eBay, comfortable. Now I’m taking a 50% cut with a two month wait on a check. Hopefully going forward I can find a new addition to this hustle that will bump the profits back up, and keep me and my family even safer.

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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28616942 - 01/10/24 09:24 PM (17 days, 17 hours ago)

I still think that american 2nd amendment right should have won the day.

“You can get a lot more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than what you can with a kind word”

Of course there was a baby.  What better way to teach babies than by example?


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Patlal]
    #28617660 - 01/11/24 01:51 PM (17 days, 1 hour ago)

Some people have a mentality, in which you take the perp or soon-to-be chicken dinner out back, out of eyeshot of others.

Some people wear their Sunday best, give a speech in the center of town, and take pics.

:frankensmoke:

I respect that there is presently a legal bias but also have a pet squirrel named after a subway vigilante who kept squirrels.



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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #28617720 - 01/11/24 02:40 PM (17 days, 28 minutes ago)

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I still think that american 2nd amendment right should have won the day.

“You can get a lot more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than what you can with a kind word”

Of course there was a baby.  What better way to teach babies than by example?





You can’t be serious.

A baby’s ears are so sensitive. You don’t even turn a stereo up halfway. A gunshot would deafen them indefinitely. They also don’t understand pain and turmoil yet, aside from their own, and they need to learn to cope with that. You kill someone and you think you get to immediately walk away? No that’s the next 48-72 hours of your life in the hands of the law whether you walk or not.

You’ve obviously never actually had to use your gun in a real setting, and just talk like this because you own one.☝️


Also, as ive said countless times, the dude had a truck there watching from a vantage point. Had I pulled a piece out, I would’ve got a bullet in my back.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #28617816 - 01/11/24 04:33 PM (16 days, 22 hours ago)

It's tough to let that sort of thing go, but as was said before: his life is already shit. By shaking off the dirt and walking away you leave him in the mud kicking his feet. You grow in character and principles while he stays in troglo land forever the dipshit.

Also, if he keeps trying to fuck with you, you know where he lives. Just try to disengage though, it isn't worth criminal charges or becoming soul-dead yourself!


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: THT]
    #28617836 - 01/11/24 05:00 PM (16 days, 22 hours ago)

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it isn't worth criminal charges




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I respect that there is presently a legal bias




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or becoming soul-dead







I believe in the objective reality of evil, not that we are necessarily empowered to take the law into our own hands.

There is a presumptive monopoly on the use of force, in which the winner is always judged the primary aggressor, and people who believe this are soul-dead, in my view.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28617870 - 01/11/24 05:33 PM (16 days, 21 hours ago)

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Patlal said:
I still think that american 2nd amendment right should have won the day.

“You can get a lot more of what you want with a kind word and a gun than what you can with a kind word”

Of course there was a baby.  What better way to teach babies than by example?





You can’t be serious.

A baby’s ears are so sensitive. You don’t even turn a stereo up halfway. A gunshot would deafen them indefinitely. They also don’t understand pain and turmoil yet, aside from their own, and they need to learn to cope with that. You kill someone and you think you get to immediately walk away? No that’s the next 48-72 hours of your life in the hands of the law whether you walk or not.

You’ve obviously never actually had to use your gun in a real setting, and just talk like this because you own one.☝️


Also, as ive said countless times, the dude had a truck there watching from a vantage point. Had I pulled a piece out, I would’ve got a bullet in my back.




I was trolling bro.  Babies aren't old enough to understand that shit.  I thought that was obvious.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #28617960 - 01/11/24 06:31 PM (16 days, 20 hours ago)

Sorry.

I figured, but just in case….


You have no idea how many people have said “I would’ve put one in him” with complete seriousness. Ohio is a weird beast. The kinda people that would jump someone for a tote of tools live here.

THT is a real voice of reason. One that’s lightly getting through to me. That dudes life is shit. The cops already have a hard on for him do to child abuse. He lives in a muck Pit on meth taking about race cars with broken tools. Getting him arrested hasn’t become a priority anymore. Dumping birdseed in his lawn would cost too much….

I’m still making the “I love sucking dick” biz cards though. He called me a faggot, and also told me to call him anytime. I’ll just say I thought that’s what he wanted :shrug:


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28618557 - 01/12/24 10:30 AM (16 days, 4 hours ago)

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Citizens of Quebec, Canada, are being told they can’t share footage of thieves stealing packages from their homes, with police claiming that doing so could violate the privacy of the criminals.




In my region of the US, trees where homeless people park under and tall bushes where crimes have been committed get removed, because they give privacy to undesirables.

There is no reason to ruin to the person's reputation, afaic.


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28618956 - 01/12/24 05:14 PM (15 days, 21 hours ago)

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Sorry.

I figured, but just in case….


You have no idea how many people have said “I would’ve put one in him” with complete seriousness. Ohio is a weird beast. The kinda people that would jump someone for a tote of tools live here.

THT is a real voice of reason. One that’s lightly getting through to me. That dudes life is shit. The cops already have a hard on for him do to child abuse. He lives in a muck Pit on meth taking about race cars with broken tools. Getting him arrested hasn’t become a priority anymore. Dumping birdseed in his lawn would cost too much….

I’m still making the “I love sucking dick” biz cards though. He called me a faggot, and also told me to call him anytime. I’ll just say I thought that’s what he wanted :shrug:




Definitely post a picture of one of those business cards when they’re done.
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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28619720 - 01/13/24 12:20 PM (15 days, 2 hours ago)

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vandago said:
Sorry.

I figured, but just in case….


You have no idea how many people have said “I would’ve put one in him” with complete seriousness. Ohio is a weird beast. The kinda people that would jump someone for a tote of tools live here.

THT is a real voice of reason. One that’s lightly getting through to me. That dudes life is shit. The cops already have a hard on for him do to child abuse. He lives in a muck Pit on meth taking about race cars with broken tools. Getting him arrested hasn’t become a priority anymore. Dumping birdseed in his lawn would cost too much….

I’m still making the “I love sucking dick” biz cards though. He called me a faggot, and also told me to call him anytime. I’ll just say I thought that’s what he wanted :shrug:




Definitely post a picture of one of those business cards when they’re done.
:lol:





The guy even said “call me anytime”.

Could that possible lead to a menacing charge?


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
    #28619741 - 01/13/24 12:41 PM (15 days, 2 hours ago)

No. Never hurts to be careful. Don’t leave any fingerprints on it. Then just leave them wherever.
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Re: Got robbed. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28619752 - 01/13/24 12:56 PM (15 days, 2 hours ago)

They’re super cheap to make. Staples has good deals, and I think you even get your first 500 free. I’m gonna tell everyone I see that dude sets up babies with screw drivers for screwdrivers.

Just simply

“I like suckin dick”

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