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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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Yah the gas station would have been the better thing. That way when he menaced you there would have been other people around or like camera and stuff. Now it's like what evidence do you have on any of this. That why I was like pressing charges is gonna be maybe more trouble than it's worth because he's just gonna lie and say none of it happened and then it's all hearsay.
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vandago


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He not only admits to robbing me through text, but he then threatens me through text, and slurs hate speech through text. Everything is documented. I also timestamped my arrival at his house, and like I also said my fiancé is a clean sober witness with no criminal record. She was in the passenger seat.
She also helped me clean the storage unit out, and the facility has footage of me loading the car with the items as well as photos from before. Lemme see if I can load the conversation up ( the shroomery never lets me upload screen shots )
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vandago


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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago] 1
#28591134 - 12/20/23 10:08 AM (1 month, 8 days ago) |
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https://albums.memento.com/Asshole
It’s also not him that asks for the second location. It’s me. I know that area, and that circle k is notorious dope boy land. I generally felt like the dude needed help, and I didn’t want him to have to walk with a 30 gallon tote full of tools. In all my travels I should’ve done this differently on this part, but asking him to meet anywhere seemed like it was putting him out. My goal with my business is to help people before profit, and the profit just happens. It’s worked my whole life, but also causes me to be a victim on occasion.
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wolf8312
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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
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Kinda difficult to follow the story/messages, so apologies if I have my wires crossed here.
Did you contact/message this guy after he had robbed you at knife (screwdriver) point?
Reading those messages I honestly thought he was you for a while!
FWIW I'd suggest when dealing with a psychopath, or criminal, to have no contact with them whatsoever. It's not worth it even if it means letting them win.
You don't want them making you their little pet project!
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budmanman
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The cool thing about my gun is that it makes screw drivers really not all that scary.
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vandago


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wolf8312 said: Kinda difficult to follow the story/messages, so apologies if I have my wires crossed here.
Did you contact/message this guy after he had robbed you at knife (screwdriver) point?
Reading those messages I honestly thought he was you for a while!
FWIW I'd suggest when dealing with a psychopath, or criminal, to have no contact with them whatsoever. It's not worth it even if it means letting them win.
You don't want them making you their little pet project!
I loaded them in order, but it’s all jumbled.
The most I go in slander is calling him a dipshit and an idiot. It would kinda have to be linear to tell when he robbed me etc
The only reason I continued to communicate with him, was my intentions of actually providing him his stuff back. He then goes off the wall calling me a thief a junkie and blaming my chick. Calls me a faggot and a pussy threatening to lock me up.
Also, as far as packing heat. I have 8 felonies. I can’t carry a gun. I’m working on getting them expunged. Also, the screwdriver feared me not. I was afraid that in some ridiculous world he was right, and I may have received stolen property. No one had given me a clear answer prior to this what the deal was if I found stolen goods in a storage unit. I now know in 100 protected by the law. Had I known this during this situation I most likely would’ve wrapped the dude up.
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durian_2008
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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
#28592579 - 12/21/23 10:02 AM (1 month, 7 days ago) |
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if the entire storage unit is hot
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If the contents of an overdue storage unit are bought at auction and they turn out to be stolen, it can lead to a complicated legal situation. Here's a general outline of what might happen:
1. Discovery of stolen property: If the buyer of the storage unit contents discovers that the items are stolen, they would typically be expected to report it to the police. The authorities will likely investigate the matter to determine the origin of the stolen goods.
2. Return to original owner: If the rightful owner of the stolen items is identified, they will need to provide proof of ownership, such as receipts or serial numbers. The stolen goods would then be returned to their original owner, and the buyer of the storage unit contents would not be entitled to any refund.
3. Reimbursement for the buyer: In some cases, the buyer of the storage unit might be able to seek reimbursement or some form of compensation from the storage facility. This would depend on the specifics of the storage agreement and any relevant laws. Legal advice may be necessary to navigate this process.
4. Criminal charges: If the individual who originally stored the stolen items is identified, they could face criminal charges for theft, burglary, or any other relevant offense. The authorities would handle the investigation and potential prosecution.
It's important to note that the exact legal process and outcomes may vary based on the jurisdiction and specific circumstances. Talking to a lawyer would be advisable to understand the applicable laws and next steps in such a situation.
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vandago


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And where did you read that?
Like I’ve already stated. I’ve talked to lawyers cops and prosecutors on this.
In Ohio you can not receive stolen property in an unloading manner. If I buy all said items from an auction under the thought it’s all legit, it’s mine regardless of if it’s stolen.
The cop literally went to this guys house and brought me all of my stuff back.
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vandago


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#28592861 - 12/21/23 02:52 PM (1 month, 7 days ago) |
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The dude could probably sue me and get his shit back. He’d have to have a lot of proof to win.
Charges are already being pressed on the original owner of the unit.
However, the cops told me this dude is full of shit. And none of it’s his.
The tote even says “property of cvs, if found return” and the cop still got it back for me.
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durian_2008
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Re: Got robbed. [Re: vandago]
#28593445 - 12/21/23 09:38 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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vandago said: And where did you read that?
https://deepai.org/chat
I am not a legal expert, per se. I was just curious.
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vandago said: Like I’ve already stated. I’ve talked to lawyers cops and prosecutors on this.
Based on personal observation, the first person they investigate is the one making the report.
Secondly, some defendants have all their ducks lined up, in terms of legalese. Yet, are not honored by the presumptive authorities.
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vandago said: In Ohio you can not receive stolen property in an unloading manner. If I buy all said items from an auction under the thought it’s all legit, it’s mine regardless of if it’s stolen.
Formally speaking, you are outgunned. It doesn't matter whether you are right.
But, it is technically unproven, whether the property has been stolen.
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vandago said: The cop literally went to this guys house and brought me all of my stuff back.
I think it's quaint, when they can accomplish their intended purpose of being good guys, in a friendly common law kind of way, but you still have this loose end.
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crackbaby
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release the bees
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HazMatt
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I feel you. I just read through this whole thing. You sound like a real nice, patient person. I’d advise you to stay that way. I let it get away from me and now I’m and angry old cynic. Ha! My advice to you as a reasonable, patient, compassionate, understanding human being, is to just let it slide and ignore this guy. He knows he’s wrong and is just trying to intimidate you into backing off. His life is already ruined. You’re wasting time trying to ruin it more. But the other side of me is advising you to burn this MFr’s life to the ground. No matter the cost.
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wolf8312
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#28593549 - 12/22/23 12:22 AM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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HazMatt said: I feel you. I just read through this whole thing. You sound like a real nice, patient person. I’d advise you to stay that way. I let it get away from me and now I’m and angry old cynic. Ha! My advice to you as a reasonable, patient, compassionate, understanding human being, is to just let it slide and ignore this guy. He knows he’s wrong and is just trying to intimidate you into backing off. His life is already ruined. You’re wasting time trying to ruin it more. But the other side of me is advising you to burn this MFr’s life to the ground. No matter the cost.
As they say: dig two graves before seeking revenge!
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Sulfurshelfsean
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In the forestry/residential tree work business, there are a lot of crackheads selling sketchy saws. Im scared to buy anything second hand, because there are so many stolen saws out on marketplace. Is anyone else on sad sales sketchy services and stolen goods on facebook?
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CHeifM4sterDiezL
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I've literally never had an issue or heard anyone i directly know having an issue but I literally approach every one of these situations like the guy is either trying to rip me off or straight rob me. There's not much to a saw so a little bit of looking around at her will tell you 90% of what your dealing with. That being said im sure there's alot of stolen shit on there and that is a risk but I'm sure most of the time it's just someone who wants money for their thing. That and I was just so shocked by what people would actually buy. One of my former friends went off the deep end with heroin and for a while he would just sell absolute junk to people I shit I would be like no way is anyone gonna buy that but sure enough in like a half an hour there would be some polish or Mexican guy or something digging thru it buying like rusted ass tools and shit for $5. Come to think of it my other buddy Jimmy the junk who is interestingly is also on alot of heroin and is a removalist also does the same thing where he just sells people junk but he's actually really good with engines so if u bought a saw off him sure he probably got it out of a junk pile the thing would probably run better than when it was new. So I mean there's all kinda ways people come across stuff or want to sell yhier used stuff I think you just have to be careful and smart about stuff and meet people that seem sketchy or for big price stuff in public or at the police station online transaction areas.
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Sulfurshelfsean
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When it comes to stolen saws and tweakers you can usually tell by the post. Most of these tweakers have a big collection of super expensive saws for dumb cheap. Like brand new Stihl 200 climbers for a couple hundred bucks, or a big husky 3120 for under a grand. I'm not as worried about getting a dud saw as I am about getting a stolen item.
As for your friend, I've known several people like that, who can just turn chicken shit into chicken salad and make money off it. I wish I was a little more savvy at small engine repair because I come across a lot of junk that could be fixed and sold.
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durian_2008
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Sulfurshelfsean said: In the forestry/residential tree work business, there are a lot of crackheads selling sketchy saws. Im scared to buy anything second hand, because there are so many stolen saws out on marketplace. Is anyone else on sad sales sketchy services and stolen goods on facebook?
I have drone tree work and sold plants on there.
Most of the leftover pieces can grow roots.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: sure enough in like a half an hour there would be some polish or Mexican guy or something digging thru it buying like rusted ass tools and shit for $5.
We don't let them on the property. There is a red sign on the gate saying to beware of the guard dogs, which alert to someone coming. Customers are met in the driveway, because I am big. I would tell ladies to do these exchanges in a public place, except these dirt people don't keep time in a civilized way.
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vandago


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vandago said: And where did you read that?
https://deepai.org/chat
I am not a legal expert, per se. I was just curious.
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vandago said: Like I’ve already stated. I’ve talked to lawyers cops and prosecutors on this.
Based on personal observation, the first person they investigate is the one making the report.
Secondly, some defendants have all their ducks lined up, in terms of legalese. Yet, are not honored by the presumptive authorities.
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vandago said: In Ohio you can not receive stolen property in an unloading manner. If I buy all said items from an auction under the thought it’s all legit, it’s mine regardless of if it’s stolen.
Formally speaking, you are outgunned. It doesn't matter whether you are right.
But, it is technically unproven, whether the property has been stolen.
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vandago said: The cop literally went to this guys house and brought me all of my stuff back.
I think it's quaint, when they can accomplish their intended purpose of being good guys, in a friendly common law kind of way, but you still have this loose end.
Dude have you read anything I’ve posted? I’m not “outgunned?” What the hell are you talking about lmao. The law is, and has been on my side through the entire ordeal. They filed a report on the dude, and got my stuff back and personally handed it to me.
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durian_2008
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#28594163 - 12/22/23 02:45 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Dude have you read anything I’ve posted? I’m not “outgunned?”
You are not legally allowed to take manners into your own hands.
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They filed a report on the dude, and got my stuff back and personally handed it to me.
I said that was nice.
Are you at risk of interacting with this person in the future, through no fault of your own?
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