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Yelper85


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Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects
#28588201 - 12/18/23 10:56 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Hi all,
Bit of a strange question, but I've seen on other sites where people have stated they drink their own urine whilst on shrooms, or at least whilst coming up as apparently the Psilocybin is converted that fast it can end up sat in the bladder, so if you go to the toilet you are basically throwing away pure Psilocin.
I can see the logic behind this given reindeer in Scandinavian countries consume Fly Agaric which is supposedly where the story of Santa and flying reindeer came from as the Saami reindeer herders would drink the urine and start tripping.
What do you think?
Normally I trip on an empty stomach and bladder, and I consume just by eating dry with a sip of water, but recently I tried making a brew. This worked fine (indeed I came up ridiculously quickly) but soon needed a wee which made me wonder if I should just hold it in or drink it! In the end I waited as long as I could then went to the toilet 
I also experience a couple of other weird effects when tripping which I'm hoping you can help with:
1. When I'm coming up, my throat feels really icy like I've gargled a load of alcoholic mouthwash or I've sucked a sore throat sweet. Any ideas why or anybody else get this?
2. Why veins in my legs hurt when tripping, especially my left leg inner thigh. Again, any ideas why or anybody else experience this?
Thanks in advance.
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Edited by Yelper85 (12/18/23 10:59 AM)
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85] 4
#28588209 - 12/18/23 11:04 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Man.... Don’t drink piss. Gross!!!
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85] 3
#28588227 - 12/18/23 11:11 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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I’d suggest taking enough so you don’t feel like you’re lacking or missing anything. Those kind of ideas come out of desperation, I wouldn’t want to follow those people’s advice. I used to fast before taking a trip thinking I was doing it for some kind of experience, and I would get more high, again, that was out of desperation and lack of satisfaction. It wasn’t until later that I found out, they are enough. I’ve had such a better experience with mushrooms when I am well rested, hydrated, and not hungry. They go a lot further that way, give a lot more growth if I’m thinking about others, my relationships, and not thinking about my stomach.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Land Trout] 5
#28588256 - 12/18/23 11:28 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Piss drinkers leading the confused, future piss drinkers. This kinda feels like boofing to me. It's ok to just want to put drugs up your ass. You don't have to try and convince me that its about efficiency of uptake or whatever. I can get PLENTY high through standard routes of administration.
If you wanna drink your own piss while tripping, go for it; but let's skip the weird justifications.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: KevinDontWave]
#28588269 - 12/18/23 11:39 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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KevinDontWave said: Piss drinkers leading the confused, future piss drinkers. This kinda feels like boofing to me. It's ok to just want to put drugs up your ass. You don't have to try and convince me that its about efficiency of uptake or whatever. I can get PLENTY high through standard routes of administration.
If you wanna drink your own piss while tripping, go for it; but let's skip the weird justifications.
I'm not trying to justify anything, I'm just asking the question. Also you may have enough product to get as high as you want, but maybe myself and others don't and therefore don't want to just piss away a potentially good trip, literally and metaphorically.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85] 3
#28588278 - 12/18/23 11:47 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Most of the folks on this forum are going to have a surplus of mushrooms and would never run into this dilemma… Definitely this is the best place to learn to grow your own in case you, too, would like to escape the urine drinking dilemma  
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85] 2
#28588302 - 12/18/23 12:07 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
#28588305 - 12/18/23 12:09 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Blue Cthulhu said: Most of the folks on this forum are going to have a surplus of mushrooms and would never run into this dilemma… Definitely this is the best place to learn to grow your own in case you, too, would like to escape the urine drinking dilemma   
The shrooms I have now are home-grown, and yeah ideally I'd have a surplus but the 2 x 4lb bags I've had colonizing appear to be dead, and at least one has green mould in it yet I followed the instructions to the letter and did it in a clean controlled environment, so I'm rather annoyed as those two grows would certainly give me a surplus!
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85]
#28588341 - 12/18/23 12:35 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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I hear ya, it can take a few attempts and experimenting with different methods to start to feel confident. Don’t let the failures get you down, all part of the learning experience
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
#28588415 - 12/18/23 01:40 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Blue Cthulhu said: I hear ya, it can take a few attempts and experimenting with different methods to start to feel confident. Don’t let the failures get you down, all part of the learning experience
I just wish the failures weren't so expensive or take so long to show they are failures
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85]
#28588459 - 12/18/23 02:22 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Interesting. Not something I would not consider. I stay hydrated and once over the come up I eat. I prefer empty stomach when taking them.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85]
#28588504 - 12/18/23 03:01 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Quote:
Yelper85 said:
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Blue Cthulhu said: I hear ya, it can take a few attempts and experimenting with different methods to start to feel confident. Don’t let the failures get you down, all part of the learning experience
I just wish the failures weren't so expensive or take so long to show they are failures 
Don't wait for the first ones to fail in 2 months time before putting more in. Don't use commercial grow products.
This way if one fails your next one is only 2 weeks away and it is a cheap hobby.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Northerner] 1
#28588580 - 12/18/23 03:56 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Oh man. I'm new to all of this but seriously. If I ever get to the point to where I even consider drinking my own piss, I'm out.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Yelper85]
#28588696 - 12/18/23 05:15 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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there's no psilocin in reindeer juice, you might be confusing two different things here.
Edited by orphee (12/18/23 05:16 PM)
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: orphee] 1
#28589051 - 12/18/23 08:59 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Depends how you're juicing your reindeer.
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Northerner]
#28589150 - 12/18/23 10:13 PM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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15-20% is excreted in feces as well so you might wanna think about eating your shit too.
And it’s in your blood. And in the brain of your friend…. Mmm brains
Edited by Bardy (12/18/23 10:14 PM)
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Bardy]
#28589199 - 12/19/23 12:07 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Mmmm brains...
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Bardy]
#28589231 - 12/19/23 01:10 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Bardy said: 15-20% is excreted in feces as well so you might wanna think about eating your shit too.
Would you suggest any sauce with that?
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: orphee]
#28589234 - 12/19/23 01:18 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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orphee said: there's no psilocin in reindeer juice, you might be confusing two different things here.
I'm just going off what I've read, and ignoring the reindeer, the original question still stands as this came from two different people on other pages I found, so I wanted to know both how true it was, and if it could be that significant in terms of potency.
I mean let's say you've grown the best mushroom ever but only one dose left. You take it, and within 20 minutes you know this is going to be a good trip but you wish you had more to really intensify the trip. If you knew your piss contained significant Psilocybin or Psilocin, wouldn't you at least wonder/consider it . . . ? Maybe I'm a freak, but I would
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Re: Drinking urine whilst coming up? Plus a couple of other questions on side effects [Re: Northerner]
#28589243 - 12/19/23 01:41 AM (1 month, 9 days ago) |
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Don't wait for the first ones to fail in 2 months time before putting more in. Don't use commercial grow products.
This way if one fails your next one is only 2 weeks away and it is a cheap hobby.
Hi @Northerner
When you say commercial products, could you elaborate? I'm in the UK so not sure if this changes your suggestion.
Currently I'm getting my injection bags from a UK site and they are rye with horse manure (I predominantly grow Panaeolus Cyanescens / Copelandia Hawaiian but also McKennaii). My liquid culture comes from the Netherlands. The 4lb bags cost £35/$44 each and the spores £35/$44 a vial (10ml, enough for one 4lb bag).
At the minute I don't know if the problem is vial contamination, bag contamination (when it manufactured, and they are made to order from what I was told), contamination from when I inoculated, or a combination of all those. I wear a mask, gloves, and always douse myself in isopropanol as well as my entire Martha tent so it's as clean as I can get it, and I inject in the tent as well.
If you have any suggestions on how to isolate the issue, or even just get the cost down so it does become cheap, please do let me know as it's the cost that's annoying more than the time frame.
As you suggested, the idea was to have one fruiting and one colonising to have a steady stream, but it's been one issue after another from lost packages to missing items, to customs confiscations and grows going bad. I just want it so I'm not always down to my last dose, or worse have nothing whilst I get another harvest from the small grow kits which is why I wanted to go bigger with these injection bags to stop all that.
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Edited by Yelper85 (12/19/23 07:14 AM)
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