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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28594591 - 12/22/23 10:05 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

:lol: :peace:


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28594596 - 12/22/23 10:10 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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That's a straw man of what I said. We must live and navigate things that ants cannot possibly be aware of.  The comparison is specious. Superficial, specious literally as speciesist. I'm not sure it can get more specious than that.




I think the point being. That the concept is still the same. It doesn’t matter if you’re an ant, a bull, or your human beings with bombs. We have an inborn tendency towards violence against each other.

The question is, how do we further separate ourselves from that tendency. And stop waging war with each other once and for all.

Or is it a futile effort?


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Re: The end of war? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28594610 - 12/22/23 10:34 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

It’s futile for sure…

When this thought pops into my head I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy]
    #28594612 - 12/22/23 10:40 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I try to think of it as a philosophical problem. To be solved. Because I won’t accept that it’s inevitable.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28594711 - 12/23/23 03:17 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

It's the Borg


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Re: The end of war? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28594721 - 12/23/23 03:46 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

The Borg? Lol


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Re: The end of war? [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28594775 - 12/23/23 05:24 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Writing war as an 'inborn tendency' does more to confuse war than demonstrate anything about it.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28594778 - 12/23/23 05:28 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

It isn't futile. We're just not there yet. Look at the events of the past few hundred years. We're pulling ourselves out of the deep pit some people. Put us in really 1700 years ago with constant additions for a solid 1500 years. The Renaissance came, then the enlightenment... Then people went backwards again, and now we're on the up again. I hope it is only ~100 years from now that we will be out of the darkness but maybe not. War isn't inevitable. Every war has a purpose. It isn't some abstract thing that just happens to people one day out of the blue.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28594795 - 12/23/23 05:49 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I think you’ll find war has been happening as long as humans have existed in some form or another.

We’re becoming more capable of doing things on massive scales, including war.

Once we warred between small tribes on the scale of a small state, now we war globally. Not much has changed other than our capacity.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28594806 - 12/23/23 05:57 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

in direct proportion to our biomass, or is that humass?


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy]
    #28594816 - 12/23/23 06:04 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

There is no ethos whatsoever in what you just wrote


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy]
    #28594818 - 12/23/23 06:06 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

& I think you'll find that humans are capable of much more. I find your insistence on the continuation of our lowest tendencies (that do not exist in a vacuum) utterly appalling.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28594821 - 12/23/23 06:08 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Not sure what you mean by that.

I had to look up what ethos meant, and it says “the characteristic spirit of a culture”.

Not sure why that applies to statements about how humans have always been at war with one another.

Aren’t you engaging me in a form of warfare right now? Lol


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy]
    #28594827 - 12/23/23 06:10 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Aren't you a sarcastic schmuck?

Not sure why... Oh then again I am


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy] * 1
    #28594828 - 12/23/23 06:11 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

I know humans are capable of loving and of making peace. Not denying that. I’m just saying that those traits are accompanied by a tendency to war


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28594833 - 12/23/23 06:13 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Blue_Lux said:
Aren't you a sarcastic schmuck?

Not sure why... Oh then again I am




There was no sarcasm in my comment.


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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy]
    #28594841 - 12/23/23 06:22 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux] * 1
    #28594875 - 12/23/23 06:48 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Re: The end of war? [Re: Bardy]
    #28594888 - 12/23/23 06:59 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Re: The end of war? [Re: Blue_Lux]
    #28594990 - 12/23/23 08:05 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Geez that was easy


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