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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom]
#28592873 - 12/21/23 03:05 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Carl Jung has been integral to my frame of mind since I began reading his works. Within the app are several active imagination “guides” that have been interesting to pursue. Most proficient when started after drinking fresh tea and an hour spent within a dark and silent room. There are many other guided meditations to follow as well. However the ability to choose your own bells and or sound accompanying the time is quite nice as well.
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I couldn’t think of a better use for a cellphone. Very intrepid of you, I like that.
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SalvadorDaliParton said: Carl Jung has been integral to my frame of mind since I began reading his works. Within the app are several active imagination “guides” that have been interesting to pursue. Most proficient when started after drinking fresh tea and an hour spent within a dark and silent room. There are many other guided meditations to follow as well. However the ability to choose your own bells and or sound accompanying the time is quite nice as well.
over time I devoloped like a pavlonian response to the bells, so I can replicate the sounds im use3d to with it
the jung thing sounds interesting
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom]
#28592910 - 12/21/23 03:35 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Dr. Carl Jung, his work is very interesting. A solid pillar of psychoanalysis. They say Freud excavated the basement of unconsciousness, if that’s true than Jung excavated many many layers below the basement. I believe most folks on the website would appreciate his works within the collective unconsciousness and it’s greater relation to comparative mythology. Man and his symbols touches upon that exact, however it isn’t a book comprised of his work alone.
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I read the basics of Freud and Jung when I was 18 and although I disagree with much of what they wrote, it gave a lense to look into myself that helped unconver a lot and helped learn how to function in the world and find motivation and enthusasm
its funny i can't even remember what the concepts were anymore, I probably talk about them or my own version of them without realizing it
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom]
#28592918 - 12/21/23 03:43 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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also jung's red book seems really fascinating
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom]
#28592988 - 12/21/23 04:41 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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I have enjoyed Jung's efforts to bring together so much thinking about commonalities between people's most treasured symbols. I have enjoyed Freud's emphasis on association in unraveling the psyche. But I have had little patience for either Freud's or Jung's theories, even though, in their day, they were outstanding achievements, they just do not work for me as keys to understanding myself or others.
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom]
#28592990 - 12/21/23 04:42 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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That’s because their ideas and concepts were correct, otherwise their words wouldn’t of been internalized. Obviously they lived in a different reality, as all members of history who have had their ideas and concepts inseparable from current understanding of human psychology. The Greek and Roman gods were nothing less than emotions personified- as human beings are a loose collection of emotions, at any given time,that just so happen to posses us at certain times(proof is: have you ever been hungry/horny/angry/honest). Those emotions are what modern westerners no longer accept as a possibility for their incarnation as physical gods(metaphysical nature or the question). At any rate, reading up on comparative mythology an or psychoanalytical research will undoubtedly prove to strike a chord within anyone. Otherwise it wouldn’t be talked about several thousand nor several decades later.
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However it works, I’m obviously as biased as anyone who posts anything. Unless we’re speaking in mathematics, chemistry, or tongues we’re all prone to neglect certain truths or our own inhibited lack of acknowledgement that could potentially destroy our own navigational system built within our own mind.
Or not Who knows 🤺
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SalvadorDaliParton said: ... At any rate, reading up on comparative mythology an or psychoanalytical research will undoubtedly prove to strike a chord within anyone. Otherwise it wouldn’t be talked about several thousand nor several decades later.
the lack of anything better in a consensual culture assures this stagnated progress. At least we are screaming ahead in AI, without the old gods. This could help unseat some stagnant notions.
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines]
#28593027 - 12/21/23 05:03 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Either you’ve missed the point or everyone else before you did
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Just to clarify, I don’t speak for any other mind than my own. In no way should this online conversation that anyone may follow persuade anyone from the great work of all philosophers and psychoanalysis.
AI isn’t Nietzsche nor Shakespeare. It’s ability to persuade anyone to believe it’s writings are exact to that which is replicates should be frightening enough without any persuasion.
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AI ain’t Humanity. All of history has been written by humans, who were and are part of humanity. AI is something beyond the scope of our intelligence. When Google answers your search question, it will do so in .0000000345 seconds. Within that time it will produce several million hits. Imagine the time it would take for a human to produce that many hits. Considering AI exists beside us, it should be frightening to recognize AI doesn’t experience time relative to us.
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how do you experience time, and is that related to Freud or Jung?
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Ferdinando] 1
#28593320 - 12/21/23 08:03 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Ferdinando said: hey all i realized that everything is perfect from meditation i have become really happy from meditating you have to meditate until that happens both of them there comes an enormous ease from realizing that everything is perfect and from meditation it can take 10 years 3-4000 hours but when it happens it's permanent or pretty much fixed there's also contentment joy and relaxation etc.
I agree. I love the expanse of meditation that is happening for me, from sitting with eyes closed to moving this physical form through 3-D reality, all is dance and play. Even atrocious things. But I guess that's why we like a good scary movie, right?
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We all experience time according to our relative distance from the sun. I believe Alfred Steinberg has a “twin paradox” theory you should check out. That should answer you question about how you and I both experience time, along with Jung and Freud.
At least that’s what Big Ben told me 💂🏾
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I think you have avoided the question about how you are experiencing time. I will rephrase it as
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"how are you personally experiencing the passing of time now?"
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines]
#28593496 - 12/21/23 10:59 PM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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Thank you very much for rephrasing that. You’ve blown my mind.
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Using the findings of Freud and Jung does this question connect in some way? why do you say that I blew your mind?
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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines]
#28593876 - 12/22/23 09:53 AM (1 month, 6 days ago) |
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you spice my mind
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