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the realization that everything is perfect * 2
    #28582443 - 12/14/23 10:17 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

hey all
i realized that everything is perfect
from meditation
i have become really happy from meditating
you have to meditate until that happens both of them
there comes an enormous ease from realizing that everything is perfect
and from meditation
it can take 10 years
3-4000 hours
but when it happens it's permanent or pretty much fixed
there's also contentment joy and relaxation etc.


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28582475 - 12/14/23 11:03 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)



sounds neat

i need to get back to meditating


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: epilectric]
    #28582623 - 12/14/23 01:30 PM (1 month, 14 days ago)

well yeah, and when you feel blue, that is perfect too.


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28582660 - 12/14/23 02:04 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

how was the process for you?


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28582771 - 12/14/23 04:05 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

smells fishy :wink:

but sure meditation is like good and stuff, great... but you assert one would have to meditate to be happy, to realize 'everything' is 'perfect' ???

doubt that...

and IMO happiness and contentment are sometimes ideal but not synonomous with progress, drive, or mastery of the external.


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: andrewss]
    #28582812 - 12/14/23 04:36 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Wow, there's a name I haven't seen in quite some time! Howdy andrewss :wave:


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: andrewss] * 2
    #28582866 - 12/14/23 05:15 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

based on how all things were before - nothing is out of place, and as it will be based on all things now, everything being in its place, everything will be as it should be.

Or to be most explicit in the here and now, to which meditation provides some cognitive access, everything is how it is and would not be otherwise.

that may not seem perfect to anyone's tiny mind's viewpoint (eg. utopia), but it is what it is and is not a fantasy.


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28583456 - 12/15/23 05:44 AM (1 month, 13 days ago)



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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28584056 - 12/15/23 02:59 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

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based on how all things were before - nothing is out of place, and as it will be based on all things now, everything being in its place, everything will be as it should be.

Or to be most explicit in the here and now, to which meditation provides some cognitive access, everything is how it is and would not be otherwise.

that may not seem perfect to anyone's tiny mind's viewpoint (eg. utopia), but it is what it is and is not a fantasy.




its very informative to watch how those states fall apart. When I'm sitting in the perfection, its very palpable. There is relaxation and joy. And then the tiniest little detail shatters it completely. It could be I don't like the way a person walks, or a distant brief sound, it could be the slightest judgment about the angle of a tree branch. And the mind slips back into misalignment and difficulty


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom] * 2
    #28584086 - 12/15/23 03:18 PM (1 month, 12 days ago)

those little cascades of perceptive reflexes are natural in mind.
with some serenity we can see them nakedly and  they do not cascade wastefully.
all of mind is reflexes, including this path to tranquility and insight.

which is to say, there is no shame in one's conditioning emerging; especially as we begin again.


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28589921 - 12/19/23 02:37 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

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its very informative to watch how those states fall apart. When I'm sitting in the perfection, its very palpable. There is relaxation and joy. And then the tiniest little detail shatters it completely. It could be I don't like the way a person walks, or a distant brief sound, it could be the slightest judgment about the angle of a tree branch. And the mind slips back into misalignment and difficulty




yes i slip back easily too


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: epilectric] * 1
    #28589943 - 12/19/23 02:55 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

any distraction will do


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines] * 2
    #28590343 - 12/19/23 07:17 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

each time it happens you can see a habit of your mind. it can help you see subtle things, cause all it takes is the tiniest thing and suddenly there is a big change


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom] * 1
    #28590345 - 12/19/23 07:17 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

or things you usually hide from yourself


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom] * 2
    #28590358 - 12/19/23 07:23 PM (1 month, 8 days ago)

I don't expect magical things to happen when I see it, but being aware of how orchestrated all this behavior is that carries my awareness along is fascinating.

sometimes being fascinated is magic enough.

wow!


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28592816 - 12/21/23 02:17 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Did you put me on ignore, RGV's?


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28592836 - 12/21/23 02:36 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
I don't expect magical things to happen when I see it, but being aware of how orchestrated all this behavior is that carries my awareness along is fascinating.

sometimes being fascinated is magic enough.

wow!




when i pay attention there isn't an atom of existance that isn't magic


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28592840 - 12/21/23 02:37 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Anyone ever tried the insight timer app?


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: SalvadorDaliParton]
    #28592847 - 12/21/23 02:43 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

i use it but just for the timer


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Re: the realization that everything is perfect [Re: Freedom]
    #28592867 - 12/21/23 03:00 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

from https://www.choosingtherapy.com/insight-timer-review/
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Final Verdict

Insight Timer has a truly impressive and extensive meditation library. What is even more outstanding about Insight Timer is all of the free content offered. While the library can be overwhelming at first, it really does become easier to navigate the longer you play around in the app. Even if you are brand new to meditation, I highly recommend Insight Timer as an awesome place to start your practice. It definitely earned all 4.5 stars and with small updates, could easily become a 5-star app!




I just use my cel phone timer.


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