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I have no doubt now, I jarred my grain too wet. The more they colonize, the more condensation fills the jars. Can barely see through a couple of them. Lesson learned. Still looks clean to me, but sloooow.
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Alright, so my jars looked 25-30% colonized, so I shook the hell out of them about a day and a half ago to the point where all the mycelium looked gone. I read that if they recover in less than two days, jars are probably clean. Well, they are recovering! Probably clear from the pics that the grain is wetter than ideal, but pretty sure the jars are clean and gonna make it.
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I'm in the clear! This jar is a little ahead of the others, so I've placed it in a cooler location, but the others are right behind. I'll be able to go to substrate in another couple days. Thanks for all the help!
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I'd like to see those jars at 100% before I say they arent bacterial for sure personally.
Regardless though they are coming along nicely and will likely be nice enough to spawn to bulk.
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Re: What am I even growing? [Re: Way]
#28591538 - 12/20/23 03:18 PM (1 month, 7 days ago) |
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That's pretty close though, isn't it? It's moving fast now. I assumed it'd be at 100% in 48 hours or less. It got to this point about 36 hours after a second shake. I just shook up the others for the last time today. Felt like it just took a minute to get going.
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For sure. Should be fully colonized within a few days.
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Re: What am I even growing? [Re: Way]
#28597528 - 12/25/23 12:18 PM (1 month, 2 days ago) |
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Welp, not sure how well this is gonna go. They all reached a certain point and appeared to stop, so definitely could be bacterial. However, I see no off colors and each jar is a solid mass that I can't break apart with regular shaking. I am planning to go to bulk tomorrow regardless, haha. Just doing bucket tek in an old cooler with coir and verm. Before I started making my substrate, I popped open a jar and gave it a sniff. Didn't really smell like much of anything, which I assume is good. Wish me luck!
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Everytime I do one of these steps for the first time, it's hilarious to me the little things I hadn't thought of. I put my coir and verm in my cooler and dumped boiling water on it. Waited until it all cooled down and then sanitized the inside of my tub and liner. I then sat there looking at the tub and looking at the cooler and back again. How the heck do you get the substrate from the cooler to the tub, lol? I'm working in a closet, so I can't really pick up the cooler and dump it in gracefully. So, I just gloved up, sprayed my gloves with alcohol, and scooped it in by hand. I probably contaminated the living crap out of everything, hahaha. How long before I have some sign either way? Also, what temp should the room be at to colonize the substrate?
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Yeah it definitely gets easier every time.
Spawning a tub is not a sterile procedure at all. Your coir and grain spawn is covered in mold spores and airborne bacteria the minute it is exposed to open air. If you get contamination, it didn't come from you touching the coir with your hands. Contamination usually comes from dirty spawn.
I scoop with a measuring cup or a clean quart jar.  I'll also use my hands if I don't have either of those on hand.
You should see some growth on the sides of your substrate through the tub within a couple of days. It will take longer for it to pop out of the top. Full colonization within a couple of weeks usually in my experience.
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Re: What am I even growing? [Re: Way]
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Way said: Yeah it definitely gets easier every time.
Spawning a tub is not a sterile procedure at all. Your coir and grain spawn is covered in mold spores and airborne bacteria the minute it is exposed to open air. If you get contamination, it didn't come from you touching the coir with your hands. Contamination usually comes from dirty spawn.
I scoop with a measuring cup or a clean quart jar.  I'll also use my hands if I don't have either of those on hand.
You should see some growth on the sides of your substrate through the tub within a couple of days. It will take longer for it to pop out of the top. Full colonization within a couple of weeks usually in my experience.
Thanks for the info!
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So far, so good. Day five in the bin. Starting to feel hopeful.
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I think I did good! Day ten since it went to the tub and I went ahead and opened up the bottom air holes to start fruiting. I used a casing layer and read you should start fruiting at 80% colonization. Hopefully I didn't start too soon. Either way, I'm feelin real good about the potential outcome here!
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Pretty much all of us go to fruiting conditions when spawning now. Separating fruiting and colonization periods is kind of an older technique.
You're fine.
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Re: What am I even growing? [Re: Way]
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Way said: Pretty much all of us go to fruiting conditions when spawning now. Separating fruiting and colonization periods is kind of an older technique.
You're fine. 
I can't keep up, lol. Every question I have I just Google it + Shroomery. I'm bound to get some old info.
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Yeah it's constantly evolving. Try to keep to the past 5 years or just post in the quick questions thread, nobody minds.
The site search isn't too bad and allows you to filter by TC posts and date ranges as well.
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Re: What am I even growing? [Re: Way]
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Thank you for your post, questions and pictures plus thank you to all the patient vets who take the time to help us new to the field/hobby. the confidence some reassurance gives us or even insight into our mistakes shouldnt be underestimated.
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Aww, here we go! They're so cute, lol.
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Everything is looking amazing. Super exciting. My one question I have right now is, at any point, should I add more moisture? There's still a good deal of condensation on the walls and top, but less than earlier on. My bin has six two inch holes low and two high, all covered in filter patches. Do I just rehydrate after a flush and otherwise leave it alone?
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After your "flush" and your harvest you should rehydrate. You need to replace the lost water from the weight of the harvested mushrooms. To do this I'd suggest either heavy misting for a couple days or bottom watering.
Heavy misting would be spraying the surface until water starts to pool and then leaving it alone until the next day. Repeat it the next day. If on the third day it is still dry, you can give it some more but it is probably fine.
Bottom watering is pouring a cup or two of water down the side of the tub in between the substrate and the wall. You leave it there for a few hours and then pour off the excess.
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Re: What am I even growing? [Re: Way]
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Way said: After your "flush" and your harvest you should rehydrate. You need to replace the lost water from the weight of the harvested mushrooms. To do this I'd suggest either heavy misting for a couple days or bottom watering.
Heavy misting would be spraying the surface until water starts to pool and then leaving it alone until the next day. Repeat it the next day. If on the third day it is still dry, you can give it some more but it is probably fine.
Bottom watering is pouring a cup or two of water down the side of the tub in between the substrate and the wall. You leave it there for a few hours and then pour off the excess.
Thank you!
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