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Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? * 2
    #28568950 - 12/04/23 09:04 PM (1 month, 23 days ago)

Can anyone explain the significant difference between Mescaline and Psilocybin in the context of a trip ?


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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: gc1966] * 4
    #28569014 - 12/04/23 09:40 PM (1 month, 23 days ago)

Mescaline is more like LSD than shrooms IME. Very deep, profound, and long lasting, but it does not seem to contain rabbit-hole dimensions that one can break through into as with Shrooms or DMT/AYA/ANA.

That's not to say you won't see mesmerizing CEV/OEV or even encounter entities though with Mescaline.

It's profound in a whole different -and in many ways more ineffable- way.

I kinda feel that Shrooms/DMT encapsulate the Buddhist religions of the east (ever seen the artwork in those temples?) while Mescaline and LSD encapsulate the western religions: flashes of Godly white light, etc. while still being grounded within a more traditional or normative framework (no aliens, or hyperspace)!

Mescaline/LSD/HBWR is much more recreational for myself because of this. No need to surrender to the experience, or give oneself up fully to these inner reality's, you can watch TV, or go out in nature.

But I think Shrooms are a very different experience for people who are new to them, than for people who have used them extensively (or people who use them alone). The first time I used Shrooms they reminded me of acid or HBWR trip. Now I feel that only at the upper reaches of hyperspace do they begin to converge!

I find shrooms much more healing and therapeutic than Mescaline but Mescaline is more fun.

That said, I cannot abide the sleepless/restless Mescaline/LSD/LSA comedown!

Shrooms have no comedown only a wonderful afterglow!



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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: gc1966] * 1
    #28570695 - 12/05/23 09:30 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

^what wolf83 said!

Mescaline is kinda like Nature's Candy-Flip while Shrooms are signifigantly different in the overall trip experience.

Mescaline also lasts about twice as long as shrooms (even more in higher doses).

I highly recommend trying Mescajuana. One of the best psychedelic combos ever to exist!


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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 3
    #28571161 - 12/06/23 08:01 AM (1 month, 22 days ago)

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I highly recommend trying Mescajuana. One of the best psychedelic combos ever to exist!



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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28571223 - 12/06/23 08:39 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

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LogicaL Chaos said:
^what wolf83 said!

Mescaline is kinda like Nature's Candy-Flip while Shrooms are signifigantly different in the overall trip experience.

Mescaline also lasts about twice as long as shrooms (even more in higher doses).

I highly recommend trying Mescajuana. One of the best psychedelic combos ever to exist!




Nature's candy flip is a perfect description.  Definitely stealing this for next time I try to explain to somebody.

OP, you're aware the mescaline come up can take up to an hour and a half yeah?  Especially if you take it in a full stomach.

Be careful redosing early.


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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: tree frog] * 2
    #28572241 - 12/06/23 11:44 PM (1 month, 21 days ago)

mmmmmmmmescajuana 😊 wanna try


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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: epilectric] * 2
    #28574451 - 12/08/23 01:56 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Both are powerful and have a lot to offer.  But I prefer mescaline cactus over psilocybin mushrooms.  A cactus trip lasts a lot longer than a mushroom trip.  My mind feels a lot clearer with cactus than with mushrooms.  Less likely to get caught in thought loops or to be irrational or confused.  Cactus affects my body more.  More physical sensations.  There can be a physical feeling of euphoria.  For me there are more visuals with cactus.  A cactus trip always leaves me with a lesson afterwards.  I really value that about the cactus.

But mushrooms are amazing in their own right.  Very consistent compared to cactus.  More reliable to dose with.  The trip occurs in a more manageable time frame, with a more definite start and finish compared to cactus.  Mushrooms are also a lot easier to process and consume than cactus.  Much less nausea and potential physical discomfort compared to cactus.

With cactus it is really important to dose high enough if you want to feel the full effects.  That means consuming a fair amount of foul tasting cactus and probably feeling some nausea and maybe even some muscle tension or other physical unpleasantness.

But the cactus trip is so worthwhile.  It feels like you are connected to a wise old friend who is doing some kind of work inside of you to make you better.  And all the while you have incredible mental and visual clarity.  And you are immersed in a psychedelic headspace and worldspace.  And probably also feeling some nausea lol.  But it doesn't even matter.  I am always so thankful afterwards.  It has been the most rewarding psychedelic for me.


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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: Grey Fox] * 1
    #28574509 - 12/08/23 02:33 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I find cactus clearer than cubes.  Up there with sclerotia for clear headed trips for sure.


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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: tree frog]
    #28576673 - 12/10/23 06:58 AM (1 month, 18 days ago)

Cactus tea and pan cyan mushrooms are both my favorites, that's why I always keep both on hand.

I've used cactus tea for many years, at least a hundred times, and zero nausea each time if you follow my easy procedure below, the fridge does all the work elminating the nauseating debris to the intestines, works so well, I take the tea every summer before I visit the waterpark with my family, at least 6 times a summer I drink the tea before I go, I guarantee no nausea.

Cactus tea before waterpark to beat the heat:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28411312/page/4



In my opinion, cactus tea is one of the best psychedelics of all, lasts 8 hours strong, music is out of this world, euphoria, neon colors, infinite beauty enhancement, divine healing, can enjoy outside, list goes on and on, and you can sip it down slowly over 20 minutes, no nausea. I've been drinking mescaline for countless years, goes way back to thenook.org (used to be the mescaline king forum).

Cactus tea and pan cyan mushrooms are equals in my book, they both give an absolutely gorgeous experience, one longer, one shorter.

Nobody gives the experience description better than DM Turner imho and Aldous Huxley:

https://www.mescaline.com/exp/index.htm
https://files.shroomery.org/cms/5982485-TheEssentialPsychedelicsGuide.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doors_of_Perception

DM Turner said:
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THE HIGH:
    The mescaline experience is my favorite of the traditional psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline). I find it has the advantages of acid: a lucid, penetrating, focused ability of the mind, rather than the more dreamy, drifting state I get from mushrooms. However, I feel totally relaxed with mescaline, even calmer than I feel on mushrooms, and there's no trace of the metallic edge usually felt on acid.

    Eating whole cactus produces a more body-oriented high than pure mescaline. San Pedro usually produces a very smooth, flowing experience. However, the effects of Peyote are quite different due to its unique mixture of alkaloids. With Peyote, the first couple hours of the experience are very dream-like, drifting, almost a delirium type state. During this time I feel groggy and sleepy and can do little more than lay back and sink into the feeling, which is not unpleasant. Some element of Peyote also acts as an emetic, making most people nauseous about two hours into the trip.

    I find the mescaline experience to be more visual than mushrooms or acid. However, I've only experienced really spectacular visuals when using synthetic mescaline. My high tolerance to most psychedelics, along with the capacity of my stomach, has prevented me from ever being as high as I would have liked when eating whole cactus. Like psilocybin, mescaline tends to link me with collective evolutionary consciousness more than synthetics like LSD. The experiences produced by these natural psychedelics seem more "significant" than an acid high, which is more analytical. An acid high often seems to be a by-product of magnifying the mind, whereas with mushrooms and cactus one feels they are in touch with something ancient, spiritual, and personal. Mescaline has a unique signature in this context which I find most magical, a feeling that the Gods or protective allies are smiling down on me. The duration can be 6 to 14 hours depending on the amount consumed. The "coming back" portion of a mescaline trip is smoother than with the other traditional psychedelics. And I've never felt the "drained of energy" or "neural overload" feeling that can come after an intense acid trip. This allows for a more conscious and therapeutic return to regular consciousness, after which I can easily sink into sleep and wake up feeling refreshed.

    Some aspects of the mescaline high are quite distinct from LSD or mushrooms. The visions produced by mescaline have a different character and structure. When being overtaken by a full strength mescaline trip, I've felt more than with any traditional psychedelic that I was an extraterrestrial being, immersing myself in new sensory phenomena for the first time. Where LSD or psilocybin heighten and clarify the sense of hearing, mescaline produces auditory hallucinations, heightening the hearing sense but also causing sounds to be quite different than normal. Mescaline also sharpens the olfactory sense to a much finer degree than LSD or psilocybin. I've particularly noted this in my ability to perceive the smells of numerous different plants when using synthetic mescaline outdoors. As for aphrodisiacal use of mescaline, wow!, it brought energies out of me that I never knew I had.

    At the conclusion of this chapter is one of my favorite descriptions of a psychedelic experience. It illustrates the depth and spiritual significance that a mescaline experience can produce. This is a description of a Peyote experience which Bernard Roseman undertook with members of the Native American Church in the late l950s. It was published in The Peyote Story, Wilshire Book Company, 1963.

D M Turner





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Re: Difference between Mescaline and psilocybin? [Re: gc1966]
    #28576701 - 12/10/23 07:58 AM (1 month, 18 days ago)

Great descriptions!
I've never tried mescaline and now I'm intrigued.
Though the nausea sounds horrible. I tend to be very sensitive to it. I always get sick, to different degrees on anything psychedelic.
I've only taken shrooms and acid.
Limited experience.


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