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Is this the correct hard wood pellets?
#28508898 - 10/18/23 12:06 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hello friends,
Wanted to know if this is the correct wood fuel pellets to use as a subtrate for woodlovers? I have experience with cubes and tried to grow pioppino mushrooms for the first time. I inoculated brown rice with LC of pioppinos. Spawned the colonized rice with this hardwood pellets in to 2 shoeboxes, I used a top layer of coir on one and a top layer of more sawdust from these pellets for the other after the colonized rice had been mixed to a 1 to 2 ratio.
Both tubs seemed to pin a little, very little small small thun fruits and they have stalled and not moved for about a week and a half. Again I have no experience with woodlovers. What might have caused the small this fruits to stall? I mean they are very small and thin about an half inch and so thin they are falling over. I suspect it was the wood pellets maybe...
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: DarthCube910]
#28508918 - 10/18/23 12:49 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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those wood pellets are fine.
The pins of pioppino are as you describe, itty bitty, thin and sometimes falling over. What the pins need to grow is super high humidity and just the littlest of airflow.
let the pins grow in their fruiting container without disturbing until they are a little more substantial, maybe an inch or more in height. When they look a little more robust and taller, even if they are falling over it is time to put in the fc, open the lid or cut the top of the bag off and maintain high humidity.
it is most likely they stalled due to low humidity. what type of fruiting setup are you using?
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: deadmandave]
#28509505 - 10/18/23 01:19 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Thanks for the response,
I am using shoeboxes just like cubes. Both pinnes a little, the one cased with coir and the other cased with more sawdust. Coir one pinned first. Both stalled, I just did a somewhat heavy spraying hoping for the best. How long do pioppino take to pin and mature as compared to cubes? Is a 1 to 2 ratio good for these?
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: DarthCube910]
#28509559 - 10/18/23 02:03 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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1:2 ratio of what?
they take 3 weeks to start pinning and depending on temps they can be fully mature in as quick as 4 days or need a full week to mature.
casing is not necessary. consider using a sgfc to maintain high humidity.
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: deadmandave]
#28510117 - 10/19/23 12:40 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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I did 1 part colonized brown rice 2 parts sawdust.
I am doing latched shoeboxes just like I do with cubes. Hopefully the pins developed a little more and I'll unlatch them to provide a little more air like you recommended. I do hope I see some growth soon. I tried doing field capacity just like I do with coir, hopefully I was not too far off but it seems like I might have been due to it stalling. I'll try to get some pictures tomorrow of the very thin pins so you can see.
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: deadmandave]
#28566197 - 12/03/23 02:36 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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So the last run of pioppinos did not really work only got like 5 mushrooms and all were really small and super thin. I attempted another run, this time went a more water contact on the pellets and as far as the pinning goes, way better luck, but the mushrooms look the same super super thin as compared to pictures of other pioppinos. Did I just get bad Genetics? Again. This would be my first times working with sawdust. I don't know if these thin mushrooms could be something I am doing.
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: DarthCube910]
#28566292 - 12/03/23 06:37 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Looks good. Maintain high humidity while they develope. They don't require too much fresh air.
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: deadmandave] 1
#28566901 - 12/03/23 03:11 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Just grow them in bags. It's so much easier. Cube growers come in here constantly wanting to grow gourmets in tubs. It's way less work to just use bags and you'll get better results.
I'll copy and paste something I recently sent someone in a dm...
As far as you growing gourmets just get a bag of hardwood fuel pellets and a bag of soybean hull pellets. Mix them 50/50 and make it 60 percent water. Like for 5# bag do 1# hardwood 1# soy hull and 3# water. Sterilize it and go. Youll need some unicorn 14A bags. If you don't have a sealer you can twist up the top and zip tie
If you have good clean grain spawn and use a high spawn ratio you can inoculate those sawdust bags in open air. Seal em up and they'll be colonized way faster than anything can germinate
I don't know if youve ever tried pioppino but they are super easy to grow and do great without a growroom. You can grow them right in the bag on the counter. You just wait until it's pinning on top, usually about 18 to 21 days depending on temp, then cut the top corners off the bag so it can get a little air. I recommend cutting about 2 to 3 inches of corner off. They're one of the few gourmets that don't need a ton of fae. I sell them as grow kits at the farmers market and people love them. They're absolutely delicious as well. One of my favorites
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: DarthCube910]
#28568930 - 12/04/23 08:52 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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For what it's worth, you can do pioppino on oats in a 50q monotub exactly like cubes and get a solid even canopy flush.
I've never gotten a second flush of pioppino this way but it might be possible. My huge cakes get weird after that first flush.
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#28568969 - 12/04/23 09:11 PM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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Tha j you guys for the info, are you guys using coir or sawdust for the pioppinos? I have seen people saying they grow on both, I have not tried on coir yet.
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: DarthCube910]
#28572130 - 12/06/23 09:01 PM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Pioppinos still looking very thin, would this be the result of growing them in a tub as opposed to a bag, or you would guess I just got bad Genetics?
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Edited by DarthCube910 (12/06/23 09:02 PM)
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: DarthCube910]
#28572405 - 12/07/23 05:40 AM (1 month, 21 days ago) |
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Ive seen plenty of successful pioppino tub grows so it must be something you're doing. Is that tub getting any fresh air at all? You cracking the lid? Pioppino don't need a ton of fresh air but after they've developed pins they need a little
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Re: Is this the correct hard wood pellets? [Re: Stromrider]
#28576538 - 12/10/23 01:32 AM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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I mostly followed the same process with cubes, except the hard wood pellets. I did not open the tub until I saw pins, then I misted and flipped the lid.
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