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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: gopher] * 1
    #28596501 - 12/24/23 11:22 AM (1 month, 4 days ago)





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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: SARAtonin] * 1
    #28596581 - 12/24/23 01:04 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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In my experience the Shroomery seems to be very right wing.

Or at least the right wing trolls are allowed to run amuck without any sort of consequence.





I've noticed this, too.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 2
    #28596625 - 12/24/23 01:37 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

I'm Eurocommunist in an overwhelmingly transhumanist way.

To the Singularity now!

We must suspend patent law in service of free innovation, you must be able to download, recombine, repurpose anything, we must use the best science has to offer, including GM, to make the most of it for all of us.

Either we become a Type 1 Civilisation or our great-grandchildren will pull roots from the barren soil with their radiation-burnt fingers.

Let each of us do their part for all of us.





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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? *DELETED* [Re: Asante] * 2
    #28596660 - 12/24/23 02:19 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

centrists are just fascists without opinions.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 2
    #28596688 - 12/24/23 02:51 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

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SARAtonin said:
In my experience the Shroomery seems to be very right wing.

Or at least the right wing trolls are allowed to run amuck without any sort of consequence.





I've noticed this, too.



If you see people breaking the rules hit the toot button. It's unrealistic to expect mods to be everywhere all the time.

If people are saying things that upset you, but are within the rules, check yourself. It's unrealistic to expect people to agree with you all the time or for anyone else to enforce others to do so.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: Northerner]
    #28596693 - 12/24/23 02:56 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

We've already had this conversation, but thanks?


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake] * 3
    #28596711 - 12/24/23 03:10 PM (1 month, 4 days ago)

conservatives are just the most vocal.  the platform is effectively based on hating other working-class people so its easy to sit in a truck and summarize your whole political stance in 100 words or less.

thoughtful ideology isnt so easily expressed and theres a recurring theme of social media not being the best venue to express opinions so you wont often hear a mouthful from members like myself or B traven for example.  we're here though..


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: BeefSupremeJr]
    #28596787 - 12/24/23 04:34 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

I think the more extreme of any side are more vocal, hence the extreme. When we have extreme people posting it always feels a bit :facepalm:, but that's their prerogative. The truth is quiet.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: Northerner]
    #28596802 - 12/24/23 04:45 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

*enables subtitles*

*takes a deep breath*




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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: SARAtonin]
    #28597025 - 12/24/23 08:01 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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In my experience the Shroomery seems to be very right wing.

Or at least the right wing trolls are allowed to run amuck without any sort of consequence.



What a highly dishonest thing to say.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: lowbrow]
    #28597189 - 12/24/23 10:39 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

Sometimes if I'm driving with someone and they are like "make a left here." I will accidentally make a right


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #28597220 - 12/24/23 11:39 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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SARAtonin said:
In my experience the Shroomery seems to be very right wing.

Or at least the right wing trolls are allowed to run amuck without any sort of consequence.



What a highly dishonest thing to say.



And that's the thing with right-wing trolls. Always instigating. Then they take it too far, get dunked on, and quiet down for a little bit.. but i'm glad they're around, it would be boring without them.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 2
    #28597296 - 12/25/23 03:39 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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conservatives are just the most vocal.  the platform is effectively based on hating other working-class people so its easy to sit in a truck and summarize your whole political stance in 100 words or less.

thoughtful ideology isnt so easily expressed and theres a recurring theme of social media not being the best venue to express opinions so you wont often hear a mouthful from members like myself or B traven for example.  we're here though..




US politics are obviously very different from EU politics, but we got our fair share of populists shouting hateful ideology based in untruths that appeal to the lowest commen denominator as well. Every year we are losing more and more rights that we fought hard for the previous decades. If I see someone regurgitating bullshit like that I will always e quick to call it out.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: Tiamo]
    #28597467 - 12/25/23 10:52 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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BeefSupremeJr said:
conservatives are just the most vocal.  the platform is effectively based on hating other working-class people so its easy to sit in a truck and summarize your whole political stance in 100 words or less.

thoughtful ideology isnt so easily expressed and theres a recurring theme of social media not being the best venue to express opinions so you wont often hear a mouthful from members like myself or B traven for example.  we're here though..




US politics are obviously very different from EU politics, but we got our fair share of populists shouting hateful ideology based in untruths that appeal to the lowest commen denominator as well. Every year we are losing more and more rights that we fought hard for the previous decades. If I see someone regurgitating bullshit like that I will always e quick to call it out.




Many in Britain seem to think our government is conservative, or right wing, because that's what the conservatives are on paper. But they ain't conserving anything!
My own sister "Jenifer" (who works for the council) would be fired from her job if she refused to specify her own sex/pronouns!
Like her name "Jenifer" (or the fact she is clearly a woman) isn't enough of a clue!
This utter madness has all happened on the watch of a 'right wing/conservative' government, that has made only token efforts to oppose the insanity! 

The opinion I am expressing here may be 'far right' or 'hateful' today but was simple common sense (or rather sanity) when I was growing up!

In Britain coming up, we learned only really of Nazism and the dangers posed by the far right.

Far leftism/communism/Marxism however was always more vague and unexplained!

How far-left is the Shroomery?

Head off over to politics and find out!


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: wolf8312]
    #28597538 - 12/25/23 12:31 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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Tiamo said:
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BeefSupremeJr said:
conservatives are just the most vocal.  the platform is effectively based on hating other working-class people so its easy to sit in a truck and summarize your whole political stance in 100 words or less.

thoughtful ideology isnt so easily expressed and theres a recurring theme of social media not being the best venue to express opinions so you wont often hear a mouthful from members like myself or B traven for example.  we're here though..




US politics are obviously very different from EU politics, but we got our fair share of populists shouting hateful ideology based in untruths that appeal to the lowest commen denominator as well. Every year we are losing more and more rights that we fought hard for the previous decades. If I see someone regurgitating bullshit like that I will always e quick to call it out.




Many in Britain seem to think our government is conservative, or right wing, because that's what the conservatives are on paper. But they ain't conserving anything!
My own sister "Jenifer" (who works for the council) would be fired from her job if she refused to specify her own sex/pronouns!
Like her name "Jenifer" (or the fact she is clearly a woman) isn't enough of a clue!
This utter madness has all happened on the watch of a 'right wing/conservative' government, that has made only token efforts to oppose the insanity! 

The opinion I am expressing here may be 'far right' or 'hateful' today but was simple common sense (or rather sanity) when I was growing up!

In Britain coming up, we learned only really of Nazism and the dangers posed by the far right.

Far leftism/communism/Marxism however was always more vague and unexplained!

How far-left is the Shroomery?

Head off over to politics and find out!




Not sure why this comment was directed at me or actually what you are trying to say specifically. I do not really identify with the modern progressivist movement. It seems to me they have lost track of the most important issues in society and don't really know of the struggle of the working man. It also seems to me forcing people to participate in well, anything, is never a productive way to cooperate. Let us not lose track of who is actually opressing us, the ones that hold the most amount of capital. The large cooperations that have let your salary track behind inflation for decades while the shareholders take all the excess productivity for themselves and the landlord which have raised rents to such levels that people can no longer afford groceries. Those are real issues.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: Tiamo] * 5
    #28597544 - 12/25/23 12:41 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

In the US, its either the party of being a dick and trampling on everyone's rights or you're a labeled lefty/socialist. Or what really makes my eye twitch, is when for not believing in such horseshit as an 800 billion dollar defense budget, you're called a "liberal", despite the fact that the progressive liberals now in office actually increased defense spending from the 770 something billion to the 800 it is now. We have two a two party system: You vote for the actual fascists or vote for the fascists who pretend to support minorities. 

Leftism/Socialism has come to mean anything but untethered corporatism and unwavering support of the military industrial complex. (support the troops!) Of course, we have a contingent of tankies who would probably be dead in a ditch under actual authoritarian communism, but theres very little room between these two extremes for free thinking so most of us just keep our heads down and stay quiet or do actual behind the scenes activism. Screaming into the void loses its charm after about the fifth bullshit presidential election and arguing with other working class people serves only the purpose of maintaining the status quo, which is ultimately the greatest bipartisan effort of the last 100 years of American politics.



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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: BeefSupremeJr] * 1
    #28597547 - 12/25/23 12:48 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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In the US, its basically the either the party of being a dick and trampling on everyone's rights or you're a lefty/socialist.  Socialism has come to mean anything but untethered corporatism. Of course, we have a contingent of tankies who would probably be dead in a ditch under actual authoritarian communism, but theres very little room between these two extremes for free thinking so most of us just keep our heads down.




It's always boggled my mind that there's only two parties to vote for in the US. We have 10+ that are viable and cover the entire spectrum. It stands to reason that with two parties any issue will become polarised.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: Tiamo]
    #28597553 - 12/25/23 12:57 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

see my edited post. its simple once you realize what their end-game is.


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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: lostintimenspc] * 4
    #28597556 - 12/25/23 12:59 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

What truly amazes me is how people still act like politics even matter anymore and dont just serve as a further way to divide us and keep us focused on each other but I guess if playing political twister makes yall feel important then to each their own :shrug:





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Re: How Left/far-Left is Shroomery? [Re: Powdered_Toastman] * 5
    #28597593 - 12/25/23 01:51 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

If you know any women or gay folks, they can very quickly and easily explain to you how political choices lead to personal consequences for people.


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