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Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here.
    #28574108 - 12/08/23 09:20 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Hey all, hoping that someone can tell me about these products I saw for sale at a local shop.  The term " Non-Detect Magic Mushroom Extract" is a new one to me.  This place is a brick and mortar shop in Mass. 

https://www.devineboston.com/collections/legal-psychedelics/products/psilo-mushroom-chocolate?Flavor=Milk+Chocolate


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: andyjones] * 2
    #28574180 - 12/08/23 10:32 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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How They Work
This product Is 100% Legal & Lab Tested To Ensure It's Free Of Psilocybin, Psilocin, 4-ACO DMT, Amanita Muscaria, Cannabinoids & Research Chemicals! Yes, That Includes The Captivating Penis Envy Mushroom Along With All Other Psilocybe Cubensis Featured On This Online Shroom Smart Shop As Well As Our Magic Mushroom Gummies & Micro Dose Mushroom Capsules To Name A Few. You May Wonder How Is This Possible? Well, After Years Of Cultivating Fungi Species & Manipulating Their Genetic Makeup, We Have Successfully Bred A "Non-Detect" Penis Envy Psilocybe Cubensis Mushroom Free Of Psilocybin & Psilocin. Best Of All, Psilo Mart's Penis Envy Mushrooms Have Heightened Levels Of Other Naturally Occuring Alkaloids That Are Actually Responsible For Producing The Intense, Immersive Psychedelic Experience That Both Medical & Recreational Magic Mushroom Users Seek Out.




Funniest marketing ploy ever. Magic mushrooms for people who don't believe in reality. Hopefully they release cocaine free cocaine soon too, by selective breeding of coca plants. I'm sure it'll have all the same intense and immersive effects that people seek out, as the original. :lol:


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Northerner]
    #28574202 - 12/08/23 10:47 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Placebo is strong.  And the ingredients listed only say mushroom powder that's free of psilocybin and mascara alkaloids.  Probably button mushroom powder.

They're selling 'psychedelic' chocolates at the head shop near my house.

Amanita. I feel bad for the college kids who have no idea what they're getting into.

They're also selling magic mushroom bars that claim to only give you a body high.

Chaga, Reishi, Lion's Mane,etc.

All of it is basically being marketed as legal cubes and people are probably being charged accordingly.


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Edited by tree frog (12/08/23 10:51 AM)


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: tree frog]
    #28574209 - 12/08/23 10:52 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I wish I could trip balls from placebo. I'd just buy my shrooms down the local grocery. Nice and safe and legal.

:trippinbawelz:


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #28574274 - 12/08/23 11:37 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Probably just putting in one of the newer tryptamine RC's that are hitting the tech scene?  4ACODMT is way out apparently, new RC's are in.  So one of those is in it.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28574300 - 12/08/23 11:54 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I want some of that speed free super speed they been talking about.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: andyjones]
    #28574306 - 12/08/23 11:59 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Dosing
**Extract Concentration Is Nearly 5X Potency Of Regular Mushrooms, So Consuming (1) 0.5 Gram Chocolate Bar Is Like Consuming 2.5 Grams (2,500 MG) Of Caps & Stems.**




WTF? Caps and stems of what? I think the question is, does it make you trip?


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28574381 - 12/08/23 12:57 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Typerwritermonky said:
Probably just putting in one of the newer tryptamine RC's that are hitting the tech scene?  4ACODMT is way out apparently, new RC's are in.  So one of those is in it.




It's a food item.  All ingredients are disclosed on the label by law  The shit on the website Northerner posted is marketing (and probably a bait and switch they could be sued for if a customer wanted to admit they were trying to get high to a judge).

The most active thing in it is chocolate and sugar.

Even says no RCs.

I'd take a screenshot but still figuring out a new phone.  It's one of the product images in the link OP gave.

It's placebo (and chocolate and sugar).


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: tree frog]
    #28574396 - 12/08/23 01:13 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I found this article about it, sounds like they strip the psilo out of it and keep the rest.  I might buy some just to test but Im very skeptical .  Its too bad, I was kinda hoping that with it being decriminalized in 3 towns here in Mass (Cambridge, Sommerville and Salem) that there would be some more movement on storefronts. 

https://cannadelics.com/2023/10/11/non-detect-magic-mushrooms-the-next-big-thing-in-legal-psychedelics/


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: andyjones]
    #28574400 - 12/08/23 01:15 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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After Years Of Cultivating Fungi Species & Manipulating Their Genetic Makeup, We Have Successfully Bred A "Non-Detect" Penis Envy Psilocybe Cubensis Mushroom Free Of Psilocybin & Psilocin. Best Of All, Psilo Mart's Penis Envy Mushrooms Have Heightened Levels Of Other Naturally Occuring Alkaloids That Are Actually Responsible For Producing The Intense, Immersive Psychedelic Experience That Both Medical & Recreational Magic Mushroom Users Seek Out.




Isn't this a claim that you would trip?


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28574415 - 12/08/23 01:32 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
I want some of that speed free super speed they been talking about.



Hell yeah mate, count me in. All the boom with none of the bust.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: VP123]
    #28574428 - 12/08/23 01:42 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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VP123 said:
Quote:

After Years Of Cultivating Fungi Species & Manipulating Their Genetic Makeup, We Have Successfully Bred A "Non-Detect" Penis Envy Psilocybe Cubensis Mushroom Free Of Psilocybin & Psilocin. Best Of All, Psilo Mart's Penis Envy Mushrooms Have Heightened Levels Of Other Naturally Occuring Alkaloids That Are Actually Responsible For Producing The Intense, Immersive Psychedelic Experience That Both Medical & Recreational Magic Mushroom Users Seek Out.




Isn't this a claim that you would trip?




Man what marketing hype bullshit.

Our scientists found the chemical that really makes you trip!  Never mind those scientists at John's Hopkins handing out pure psilocybin and radiolabeling it who claim they can image a brain and see it in action.

Those scientists don't know shit.  Trust us and please give us your money.

edit: possible to it's just psilocybin and they're dodging the cops.  I swear the thca hemp being sold here is just low grade weed from legal states.


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Edited by tree frog (12/08/23 01:58 PM)


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Northerner]
    #28574624 - 12/08/23 04:09 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

seems like a scam.

i've seen a lot of "legal" mushroom gummies claiming amanita. but there is literally no way to know if they were amanita, how much is was decarbed or the potency of what ever the hell 300mg of amanita extract means. and regardless, knowing what amanita is and does, i don't see how there could be anything more than a gram equivalent in an entire package or there would be some liability for alcohol and benzo interactions.

grow your own shrooms and forage your own amanita. This is the way.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28598643 - 12/26/23 02:05 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

okay so I tried some of the extract.

First off it smells really strong, it is a sticky powder that clumps to the side of the jar.

It costs 15 USD for a 1/4 of gram.

The effects are very real but I would say that it is not a good shroom feeling.  I would say it is all headspace with zero visuals ......like very zero.  So for me personally its a dud, but if you like the body load and headspace, maybe give it a try.  Just go into it knowing that you are not going to get a full effect. I love the visual aspect of mushrooms so I wont be trying this one again.    I just hope that our state gets their shit together and legalize.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28598702 - 12/26/23 03:16 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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Typerwritermonky said:
Probably just putting in one of the newer tryptamine RC's that are hitting the tech scene?  4ACODMT is way out apparently, new RC's are in.  So one of those is in it.




Could be 4acodet, met, mipt, etc. If these chocolates do anything, I'll be it is just some other tryptamine. Which ones did you have in mind?


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: pucktheduck]
    #28598939 - 12/26/23 07:00 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

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pucktheduck said:
Quote:

Typerwritermonky said:
Probably just putting in one of the newer tryptamine RC's that are hitting the tech scene?  4ACODMT is way out apparently, new RC's are in.  So one of those is in it.




Could be 4acodet, met, mipt, etc. If these chocolates do anything, I'll be it is just some other tryptamine. Which ones did you have in mind?




4-ho-met?


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Rukus]
    #28599707 - 12/27/23 11:20 AM (1 month, 21 hours ago)

it does specifically say that they contain " No RC's"  .  Im guessing it is the other compounds in the mushrooms which is interesting to me.  Ive always wondered what makes the effects of different mushrooms feel different.  this may be proof of the entourage effect, although we may have already known that.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: andyjones]
    #28599755 - 12/27/23 12:20 PM (1 month, 20 hours ago)

I suspect this is RC chemical activity and that the stuff about it being an extract of psychedelic fungi is just marketing hype.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Nillion]
    #28601823 - 12/29/23 05:47 AM (30 days, 2 hours ago)

unless it specifically says it's extracted from a cube, or other psilo shroom, i've seen quite a bit of amanita gummies saying "legal psychedelic" as a marketing trick to get people to think they're getting cubes. technically amanita is psychedelic, just in a very very different way.


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Re: Confusing new mushroom products for sale at a dispensary here. [Re: Jim I.T.I]
    #28601847 - 12/29/23 06:33 AM (30 days, 1 hour ago)

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Jim I.T.I said:
technically amanita is psychedelic, just in a very very different way.




I thought they were anticholinergic rather than psychedelic but I have no first hand experience with them.

I think you might be right about this being Amanita extract. Though vendors putting RCs into various things and leaving them off of the ingredients is also a well known practice.


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