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Real bad stomachache + nausea
    #28573792 - 12/08/23 01:58 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Hello, everyone. Wednesday morning I done my first microdose. I was really nervous about it but I had a really good time i was at peace had no anxiety no worry my PTSD was just gone. It worked faster than any anti depressants. Anyway the day after I started feeling really sick and my stomach has been hurting ever since. I am also really thirsty no matter how much I drink. I have diarrhoea and can’t stop peeing like crazy. I only did 0.05g not sure if I should go up to 0.10g Saturday or stick with the same dose? Lmk and sorry for all the noob questions, there really isn’t enough info online 😂


Forgot to mention yesterday morning I dry heaved but nothing came up, felt a little better after I still feel sick but it’s mild. Stomachache comes and goes my appetite has been suppressed quite a bit too I’m only eating half of my portions. I must not be drinking enough but I feel like I’m drinking more than I usually do. I’ve had a headache that comes and goes as well it’s quite painful


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro] * 2
    #28573833 - 12/08/23 03:41 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Sounds like you have food poisoning. The symptoms you are describing are not caused by mushrooms.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Northerner]
    #28573850 - 12/08/23 04:42 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

are you sure it's not the shrooms? me and my sister both had the same reaction I've been sweating for 2 days it feels like the shrooms are coming out of me. On this website "volteface" it claims you can get shroom hangovers. symptoms include.  headaches, nausea and general ‘ick’ it also claims it could be related to serotonin activity.  another interesting piece:
"Nausea, stomach aches and headaches are not all that unusual in my life. And, upon examining the experience with a shroom hangover in this way I had to wonder: was the huge emotional release during my own psilocybin experience, which dealt with grief and pain and trauma, more to do with the shroom hangover than anything else?

Possibly.

The whole realm of psychedelics is still so unknown and mysterious, even with the enormous surge of research going on right now. It makes as much sense as anything else that this physiological reaction could be related to an emotional reaction. I’m certainly open to it!" I guess theirs no way to know for sure what caused it. I am interested to hear other peoples views/opinions


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28573856 - 12/08/23 04:51 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

can you try a different strain?
maybe the terroir of this strain you used is not good for your gut?

the benefits you mentioned are worth keeping up the trial period, but it would be best if you are not medicating your gut to enable medicating your brain.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28573869 - 12/08/23 05:19 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

It's something I will try when i run out but can't afford to buy anymore atm unfortunately. i've heard golden teachers are good starting strain. I am using Blue Meanies, Maybe a strong strain wasn't a good idea? It's my fault for not looking into it enough. cheers tho


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28573872 - 12/08/23 05:25 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

i never had this although i do feel uncomfortable easily while being dosed, it always fades afterwards

i've heard and read of stuff like this before but with higher doses and regular use

maybe you have a specific sensitivity against some protein in the mushroom

either it was just this batch or you need to find another psychedelic option


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: epilectric]
    #28573898 - 12/08/23 06:03 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Hey, thanks for the reply. I thought i should mention I have IBS as well so maybe it was set off by something in the shrooms? my IBS has been under control for years. when i run out of my microdose I'll try a different strain


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28573915 - 12/08/23 06:19 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

Welcome Cyro

Did you grow them yourself, or buy them?  If you bought them, were they absolutely dry, to the extent that they crumble to dust when squished?

I'm asking because I've not heard before of someone getting your symptoms when microdosing.  There's a chance they weren't dried / stored correctly and were carrying something nasty along with them.

It's certainly worth trying a different strain, and if you didn't grow your own, check out Beef's thread at https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=28501535&PHPSESSID=&fpart=1#toc and https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24179086 - a lot cheaper and a lot more fun.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Janus62]
    #28573955 - 12/08/23 07:00 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

I would agree on perhaps not being properly dried and stored however now that you say you have IBS it's probably that.


You'll need to find someone else that has IBS and has taken shrooms for a real answer


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28573970 - 12/08/23 07:22 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

I feel like that every time I use them
Unless they are in chocolate
Even then im still clutching my stomach


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28573994 - 12/08/23 07:41 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

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Hey, thanks for the reply. I thought i should mention I have IBS as well so maybe it was set off by something in the shrooms? my IBS has been under control for years. when i run out of my microdose I'll try a different strain




oh okay now that is a decent explanation. it might even have to do with serotonin receptors... you may want to very carefully test the waters with different strains and compounds


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574039 - 12/08/23 08:25 AM (1 month, 20 days ago)

I think it affects everyone differently
I've only tripped with one other person
On same shrooms
They are fine while im sick


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574154 - 12/08/23 10:05 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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are you sure it's not the shrooms? me and my sister both had the same reaction I've been sweating for 2 days it feels like the shrooms are coming out of me. On this website "volteface" it claims you can get shroom hangovers. symptoms include.  headaches, nausea and general ‘ick’ it also claims it could be related to serotonin activity.  another interesting piece:
"Nausea, stomach aches and headaches are not all that unusual in my life. And, upon examining the experience with a shroom hangover in this way I had to wonder: was the huge emotional release during my own psilocybin experience, which dealt with grief and pain and trauma, more to do with the shroom hangover than anything else?

Possibly.

The whole realm of psychedelics is still so unknown and mysterious, even with the enormous surge of research going on right now. It makes as much sense as anything else that this physiological reaction could be related to an emotional reaction. I’m certainly open to it!" I guess theirs no way to know for sure what caused it. I am interested to hear other peoples views/opinions



You and your sister sick and sweating for 2 days, headache, thirst, nausea, diarrhoea. This reads like food poisoning. It didn't even start when you took the tiny 50mg dose of shrooms. I am actually surprised that anyone here puts all of this together and comes to the conclusion that it may be the mushrooms. Baffled.

It's like you saying you drank a mouthful of beer and asking if it's an alcohol hangover that's been making you sick for days, because all the symptoms match acute alcohol hangover.

IBS irrelevant, as your sister has same symptoms.

The only way I see it being related to the mushrooms is if they have bacteria on them. If they are crunchy dry and don't stink like feet you can eliminate that.

People have been eating mushrooms for 1000's of years, they aren't as unknown and mysterious as post prohibition media would have people believe. It's not a new invention. Millions of people eat them all the time. The known effects do not match the description of food poisoning with tiny doses.

If you'd come here after both of you ate a dose 100-200x more than what you did it'd be different. But here we are.

Hope you feel better soon.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Janus62]
    #28574199 - 12/08/23 10:46 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

They're exactly how you're describing them! when I break them in half, they make a loud snap, and rubbing them in between my fingers they turn to fine dust. I did buy these and probably won't go back to that vendor I'm gonna attempt to hypothetically grow my own over christmas. someone in here was kind enough to through in a very good guide.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Northerner]
    #28574206 - 12/08/23 10:50 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Right but those symptoms headache, thirst, nausea, diarrhoea. points to an endless list of things it could be. I am feeling better now, still have sweats and am thirsty tho. Tomorrow I am going to take my dose again and if symptoms show again I guess we'll know it's something in the shrooms or I am mega sensitive to them. who knows. I'm gonna try a new strain from a different vendor ASAP. I have been talking to other people and they have experienced similar symptoms on a microdose so who knows at this point? Everyone is saying different things :thumbup: 


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574231 - 12/08/23 11:06 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574253 - 12/08/23 11:19 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Right but those symptoms headache, thirst, nausea, diarrhoea. points to an endless list of things it could be. I am feeling better now, still have sweats and am thirsty tho. Tomorrow I am going to take my dose again and if symptoms show again I guess we'll know it's something in the shrooms or I am mega sensitive to them. who knows. I'm gonna try a new strain from a different vendor ASAP. I have been talking to other people and they have experienced similar symptoms on a microdose so who knows at this point? Everyone is saying different things :thumbup: 



I know. I've been taking mushrooms for 30 years now. I've been on this website pretty much daily for over a decade talking to other mushroom enthusiasts. I have never heard/read what you describe from a microdose.

Hope you find what you're looking for. Definitely try growing, it's one hell of a great hobby. There a whole bunch of awesome people on here to meet who will help you at every step of the way.  :awesome:


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Northerner]
    #28574304 - 12/08/23 11:58 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I'm thinking the IBS and the serotonin receptors in the gut, along with a bit of anxiety kicked off the IBS.

not the strain, just try to relax and endure, IBS is a drag, but people live long lives with it none the less.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28574310 - 12/08/23 12:04 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I would think that if it wasn't both of them. Also frequent urination, then sweating and malaise persisting past the gut irritation all point to something else.

If such a small amount of mushroom, basically half a gram of wet mushroom, caused such a terrible reaction OP would have known beforehand that mushrooms are highly toxic for them. This wouldn't be news.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Northerner]
    #28574357 - 12/08/23 12:29 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

It's really strange this is the first time I've experienced this


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574371 - 12/08/23 12:42 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Don't feel bad man. There's a whole bunch of people who have felt sick after eating mushrooms for a whole bunch of different reasons. Chuck in "sick for days after eating mushrooms" in the search box top right of your screen. You can see what others have experienced. You're not alone.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574441 - 12/08/23 01:51 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)




Lots of people are experiencing it on a microdose It's not uncommon from what I've been told


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro]
    #28574469 - 12/08/23 02:06 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

What he is describing symptomatically is not what you described. Immediate stomach irritation when eating mushrooms is very common.

If I was you, and if I believed that the smallest amount mushrooms caused me to be very ill for days, I would never eat them again. It doesn't really seem worth it. Like the guy you screenshot where they causing him terrible stomach pain daily yet kept persisting. I have no idea why.


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Re: Real bad stomachache + nausea [Re: Cyro] * 1
    #28575790 - 12/09/23 12:36 PM (1 month, 18 days ago)

All mushrooms have chitin in them. This can’t be digested by us so it will cause a feeling like you have sticks in your stomache. That’s why for mushrooms I make a tea and strain out the physical matter. Psilocybin is water soluble so it’ll easily dissolve in the water and you won’t waste anything.
It would be easier if you could just eat the mushrooms straight but for me the stomache pain is a little too strong to forget about during my trips.
I feel like mushrooms clean you out. Idk how to explain it. But when I have the mushrooms, my face always gets purple or reddish and I sweat sometimes. It seems like there is a kind of internal cleaning process going on which could explain some of your symptoms.
I’d make a tea if I were you and idk about microdosing. I’ve never don’t that. I just take a big dose at a time
Where I know I can be by myself for a while. And it is a truly amazing experience. I just took four grams in a tea like four hours ago and I’m feeling great


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