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Mr Piggy
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Western Cascade ID 1
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Habitat: Rhododendron Oregon, 2000'. West side cascade doug fir and western red cedar mix.
Spore print color: purple/brown




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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Mr Piggy]
#28573147 - 12/07/23 05:20 PM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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 That's a little different.
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Looks a wee bit sub-ish. No bruising?
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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Mr Piggy] 2
#28573195 - 12/07/23 05:47 PM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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Compare with Hypholoma marginatum.
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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Nitro87] 2
#28573373 - 12/07/23 07:46 PM (1 month, 20 days ago) |
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Nitro87 said: Compare with Hypholoma marginatum.
Or Hypholoma dispursum
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Hypholoma for sure
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Nitro87 said: Compare with Hypholoma marginatum.
Or Hypholoma dispursum
If my understanding is correct I think they are synonymous. H. marginatum being the current name. Unless itβs the other way around? 
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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Nitro87]
#28574726 - 12/08/23 05:39 PM (1 month, 19 days ago) |
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Nitro87 said:
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Magic Badger said:
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Nitro87 said: Compare with Hypholoma marginatum.
Or Hypholoma dispursum
If my understanding is correct I think they are synonymous. H. marginatum being the current name. Unless itβs the other way around? 
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You got me... names change so much it makes my head spin sometimes... I seem to recall a database called ITIS that would tell you all the synonyms and what the currently name in use was for everything with a scientific name... but I can't seem to find it anymore.
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Magic Badger said:
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Nitro87 said:
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Magic Badger said:
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Nitro87 said: Compare with Hypholoma marginatum.
Or Hypholoma dispursum
If my understanding is correct I think they are synonymous. H. marginatum being the current name. Unless itβs the other way around? 
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You got me... names change so much it makes my head spin sometimes... I seem to recall a database called ITIS that would tell you all the synonyms and what the currently name in use was for everything with a scientific name... but I can't seem to find it anymore.
H. dispersum is the current name in Norway, at least. Searching Index Fungorum gives both names, but not as synonyms. MO gives a little of both, with emphasis on H. dispersum.
In the end I don't think it's that crucial since we know what species we're discussing.
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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Mr Piggy]
#28575699 - 12/09/23 10:55 AM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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No matter what you call it what you really want to know is probably this...
Which is Paul Stamets telling you all about how it can be an indicator species for PNW Psilocybe
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Mr Piggy
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I was certainly curious if they were pellies, but I'm really enjoying the back and forth. Nuance not present in books.
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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Mr Piggy] 1
#28575908 - 12/09/23 02:13 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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Mr Piggy said: I was certainly curious if they were pellies, but I'm really enjoying the back and forth. Nuance not present in books.
For what it's worth, I also guessed that you might've been considering P. pelliculosa for these
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Re: Western Cascade ID [Re: Moria841] 1
#28575941 - 12/09/23 02:40 PM (1 month, 18 days ago) |
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I'm curious about these... they were colorful and thus attracted my attention.. but I've no idea of what they really are. At first I thought they might be dispersum pins, but I don't think they are that bright...
-------------------- Disclaimer - I'm just a hobbyist and cannot absolutely guarantee any ID offered. I'm most familiar with the species found in the Pacific Northwest - those found in other parts of the world may vary considerably, so always do your own research to find out what grows in your area and what lookalikes you need to be aware of. Understand that many mushroom species cannot be 100% reliably identified by photographs alone, even by an expert, so it may not be possible to go beyond suggesting a probable genus.
Edited by Magic Badger (12/09/23 02:41 PM)
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