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The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonicon
    #2857305 - 07/05/04 12:25 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey man :stoned:

Anyone else here read any of these? The themes are all interestingly similar, even though Crowley and Lovecraft had never talked, or even knew they were using each other's themes. Crowley used his for occult, Lovecraft for truely horrorific short stories, and the Necromonicon as an ancient text, but all mention the Ancient Ones, the original inhabitants of earth. They are the most horrific creations the human mind could imagine (so would say Lovecraft in his descriptions) and would love nothing more than to resurrect their ancient cities and rid the new humans inhabiting this planet. Symbolized by the Cthulhu or Ancient Ones (Lovecraft)/ the Great Beast or Satan and Teitan (Crowley)/ or Ctha-lu or Kutulu or Tiatmat (Necromonicon, derived from Sumerian), it's odd the similarities one can draw comparing these three.

And why couldn't the Ancient Ones or such a similar race exist? It seems to be ancient, stretching back to Sumerian times and maybe farther, the idea of an original intelligent lifeforms before humans, that surpassed humans millions or tens of millions of years ago, and that ended up partially or fully destroying themselves. We'd like to think that with all the previous lifeforms on this planet, they were all bacteria and carnivorous dinosaurs and apes, but why assume human beings are the first intelligent race? There is vast areas unexplored on the earth, if anything is surviving of a previous intelligence chances are we haven't found it, as chances are they may be preserved and hidden in places we've barely begun to search yet. What is frozen under the deepest Antarctic ice sheets, or resting at the bottom of the ocean?

Chances are that if there existed intelligent life, even if we did find any remaining artifacts we may not even recognize them. Humans could pass over an ancient city without even stopping, as it is our ego (we'd like to think) that humans are the basis for advanced technological lifeforms. Our cute little drawings of aliens are mainly big-eyed, grey hairless humans. I see more diversity than that by just looking out the window, and if we go farther back in time then lifeforms will probably look even more different, along with anything they may have used


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Re: The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonicon [Re: Ravus]
    #2857314 - 07/05/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What is frozen under the deepest Antarctic ice sheets...

Somebody just watched John Carpenter's "The Thing".


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Re: The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonicon [Re: Swami]
    #2857376 - 07/05/04 12:55 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

The what? :confused:

No, I was more referring to what some hypothesize as the ancient Mayan city of Mu that some believe may still have ruins under Antartica, but...
whatever floats your boat?
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Re: The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonicon [Re: Swami]
    #2857750 - 07/05/04 02:54 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Swami, weren't you due in the test chamber a half hour ago?


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Re: The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonicon [Re: Swami]
    #2857814 - 07/05/04 03:16 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, you just implicated another author in this trifecta.

The rabbit hole gets deeper...


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Re: The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonicon [Re: zorbman]
    #2857895 - 07/05/04 03:49 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I am decompressing as I am writing this.


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Re: The Connection Between Lovecraft, Crowley and Necromonic [Re: Ravus]
    #2859502 - 07/05/04 08:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Lovecraft was a polio victim with a fine imagination. The Necronomicon was his invention, though recently (in last 10 years) a writer has tried to capitolize on this by writing a bogus Necronomicon. There is no connection between Crowley and Lovecraft. I will say that Crowley was every bit the writer that Lovecraft was in his amazing descriptions of the Kabballah. "Magic in theory and Practice" is an occult masterpiece. though Crowley himself was a royal asshole.


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