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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
    #28563120 - 11/30/23 11:56 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

I would need to see your image like these two to say more, but do read below.


I have seen similar scans and, most recently, my brother-in-law, who has scoliosis, had a surgery which improved his symptoms wherein a flexible plate was installed on the ventral surface of 3 vertebrae after sharp edges of the bone and cartilage were removed, and replaced with new material that will relieve the squishing pressure. His surgery was 6 hours, and the surgeon went in at the front of the neck and slid his equipment in behind the throat.

His symptoms were the numbing of both hands and feet, and the pinch to the spinal cord was much more severe than depicted here.

I imagine that you have a neck injury (which can happen even from jumping and landing roughly - or being hit on either side of the head) that is not pinching the whole spine but is affecting the very short nerve branch that goes to the right side of your throat that is producing error signals. This may not show up on scans, because the nerves coming out of the vertebral column are much finer structurally.

You probably need star trek level medical attention which we do not have yet, so just take it easy with your neck and head, and don't give up on smaller doses of acid.

edit: the best solution in today's medicine might be to sever the affected nerve, which would make that piece of the throat a dark spot that has no feeling at all. A very delicate procedure IMO, hard to limit the damage.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
    #28563336 - 12/01/23 06:27 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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hmm i also did too much 4-aco-dmt recently (40mg nasally) and initially had a very high heart rate and a strong tingling sensation in my fingers and face... but that didn't reappear

what do you think where the tingling sensation came from?





I only ever felt that sort of tingling sensation for what I remember for about 10-20 seconds, and it was some time after popping the last 4 tabs. What I assume happened was that the tabs started to kick in, and either my heart rate went up and caused the tingling, or like you said it just comes from high doses.




hmm do you know more about the connection between heart rate and finger tingling? i'm really wondering what caused it for me...


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28563342 - 12/01/23 06:40 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

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Otherwise, please treat lsd with more respect. It has a lot of potential but 1400 mics is not a great dosage idea.




umm don't you think he knows that by now given his symptoms and all? :laugh: he didn't know they were still potent so he wasn't even planning on 1400 mics at all...

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You probably need star trek level medical attention which we do not have yet, so just take it easy with your neck and head, and don't give up on smaller doses of acid.





i agree :smile:


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28564971 - 12/02/23 08:57 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Appreciate the input :smile:, I don't want to send my imaging just for privacy reasons, but my vertebrae are completely fine, the only abnormality is a small tear in the spinal cord around C3-C4, like shown in the pic on the left but MUCH smaller and appears sharper, 2/3 Neurologists didn't even notice it, but when I look at it on my own it's very much noticable. The only guess or lead that me and my doc have as to why there are these weird sensations and pain is that small tear, but it's weird how it only affects the right side, and reacts to weed, coffe, and other substances.

I do eventually want to try acid again, but after trying weed and seeing how that reacts with my brain now, I'll go with a very tiny dose and monitor the symptoms and then go up based on how I react to it.

As for severing the nerve, none of my docs have been able to pinpoint what nerve it really is, since it's affecting all of the right side, at this point I don't have much hope for reversing it, I've accepted that I have to learn to live with it, but if we find anything and can improve the condition, that'd be awesome.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
    #28564979 - 12/02/23 09:01 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

Based on my research, a tingling in the arms and legs usually means a sudden heart rate increase, and can signify a heart attack or a panic attack.

"Experiencing chest pains, a rapid heartbeat and a numbness or tingling sensation should not be taken lightly. These signs and symptoms, along with other unique warnings, can mean that you're experiencing a heart attack or a panic attack, and depending on the situation, need to seek immediate medical attention."

Source: https://physiciansallianceofconnecticut.com/blog/panic-attack-vs-heart-attack/#:~:text=Experiencing%20chest%20pains%2C%20a%20rapid,to%20seek%20immediate%20medical%20attention.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
    #28565103 - 12/02/23 11:01 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

If I were you, I'd stay the hell away from most drugs really.  Start using any possible nerve tonic growths we know of that are scientifically backed - such as beta-glucans from Lions Mane mushrooms, Vitamin B series, anti-inflammatory substances as well will help a lot.

Your best hope is to just wait for your body to find new nerve paths and supplementing whatever you can that actually works will assist in this process.  Eventually your body and brain will forge new nerve paths that will help the errant firing of nerves.

It won't ever be perfect again, but it'll get to a new homeostasis.  I've had so many nerve injuries and they've traumatized me, they are the only thing that scares me.

But of my nerve injuries, two healed entirely, one is about 85% healed a year later, and the last I don't think the nerves on the right side of my mouth and cheek will ever be perfect and I'll always have a slightly crooked smile.  So be it.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28565136 - 12/02/23 11:24 AM (1 month, 25 days ago)

what caused your nerve injuries?


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric]
    #28565323 - 12/02/23 01:57 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

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what caused your nerve injuries?




Most likely the car accident, I could've injured my neck while I was on tabs, or the hypertensive crisis could've caused it, but the most likely cause was the car accident, as I did hit my head on the steering wheel, blacked out for a couple mins, and it was a pretty bad accident all around, just to clarify I was not at fault.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28565337 - 12/02/23 02:04 PM (1 month, 25 days ago)

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If I were you, I'd stay the hell away from most drugs really.  Start using any possible nerve tonic growths we know of that are scientifically backed - such as beta-glucans from Lions Mane mushrooms, Vitamin B series, anti-inflammatory substances as well will help a lot.

Your best hope is to just wait for your body to find new nerve paths and supplementing whatever you can that actually works will assist in this process.  Eventually your body and brain will forge new nerve paths that will help the errant firing of nerves.

It won't ever be perfect again, but it'll get to a new homeostasis.  I've had so many nerve injuries and they've traumatized me, they are the only thing that scares me.

But of my nerve injuries, two healed entirely, one is about 85% healed a year later, and the last I don't think the nerves on the right side of my mouth and cheek will ever be perfect and I'll always have a slightly crooked smile.  So be it.




Thanks for sharing this. After smoking weed and seeing how that reacted with my body, I'm not touching anything psychoactive for a while, I did have unrelated shoulder surgery after all of this happened, and the Oxycontin they perscribed me was fine, didn't cause any weird symptoms, if anything it temporarily made everything better, so it seems to just be stuff like coffe, nic and weed.

I'm wishing you the best of luck on your recovery! I understand now how tough it can be, escpecially since it sounds like you have multiple injurys, stay strong!


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Frog_cmp]
    #28566559 - 12/03/23 10:17 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

So first,  I have not tried LSD. But I been going trough a lot of shrooms the last year, and yes I got a spinal cord injury c1/c2 after an accident at work.
What I wanted to say is that I have not felt any different than anyone in here are explaining, I need to take more due to my extensive medicine list. And I dont get so much visuals  but sometimes I get them 😊

But if 200 is an average dose 1400 should be an ego death dose for sure? LSD is on my list but not that easily to come across where I live or in my circles. I don't even know anyone near me doing magic mushrooms, only one I heard about was the fater of my sons girlfriend. Who has also been in an accident.

So glad you cared to share your story, LSD and DMT is on my list to come across in the future. Been wondering about ordering it, but only domestically.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Shromolo] * 1
    #28567759 - 12/04/23 02:38 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

Something like 75-100 micrograms is an average dose. 200 mics is already a strong trip from what I hear. 400 mics is hectic. I’d say ego death can occur on as little as 100 probably, definitely by the 200 mark. 1400 is just a crazy ridiculous dosage lol.

You can lose the ego while sober for short periods if you concentrate, it’s a kind of stubbornly persistent illusion.

Sorry to hear of your pain OP.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Bardy]
    #28567871 - 12/04/23 06:52 AM (1 month, 24 days ago)

a smart friend said this:

"Yes, wild, really kind of hard to realize that all injuries, memories, etc. anywhere in the body remain in the form of neurons and cell collections that were formed for that purpose, but are sensibly ignored by the healthy body. It's all the wilder when you hear that these slumbering systems can be raised back into consciousness through such a dosage"


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: epilectric] * 1
    #28570226 - 12/05/23 05:09 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I mean like a year or two after the injury while healing that whole time, that is when you can start doing things like LSD and Ketamine bodywork and you can make huge leaps with nerve injuries with that.  I had bells palsy on the right side of my face; it all drooped.  One time while meditating on the muscles in that area while on LSD and Anasket brand ketamine I felt a zap and the muscles went back into place around my eye and eyebrow.  Most of my nose and cheek too, especially over time.  Now you can't tell if you look at me, but if I smile real wide you can then tell a bit.

So I would say after a year or two post injury, psychedelics can offer a massive road to healing when the body hits roadblocks.  Of course opiates made it feel temporarily better, they are basically a cure all for the bodys ailments, you just can't take them regularly though.


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Re: 1,400 Micrograms caused long term issues [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28570323 - 12/05/23 06:07 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

I doubt it's the acid

I have a really shitty back

Taking like, 50ug of acid kills all my back pain

Taking more just gives me more side effects, but never pain. Usually I end up not noticing that I am leaning on something that would normally cause me discomfort, but my nerves get more numb on Lucy

I think it's because I have fibromyalgia, and the lsd is doing something there

The only thing the highest dose I ever took did to me, was just to motivate me to work harder in college

It didn't really pay off, but I learned a lot more


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