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I smoked some ayurvedic cigarettes when I first quit, cause I still felt like sitting on the bench outside and smoking, I still got a pack or 2 in my drawer, Amazon doesn't have the same brand I have anymore but they have many others, they are nicotine and tobacco free
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante] 1
#28612250 - 01/06/24 08:05 PM (21 days, 19 hours ago) |
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We've done it all thrown vapes/packs out the window or shot them like sporting clay it doesn't matter what it comes down to is quitting smoking/vaping that's all. Trust me I get it and it sucks but so does smoking. It's just one those things you can either double down or give up there's no way around that. Get some african root or cdb tonic and get off nicotina. It's alot like cocaine but perhaps more deceptive. Shit is hardcore God bless don't u have a wife and kids? You got to wiegh that I promise ur making a mole hill moutain figure it out. Obviously it's easier said than done but that's all it takes.
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I smoke cigars Im so mad at myself for it Except I enjoy it
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Re: Chantix [Re: vandago] 1
#28612525 - 01/07/24 02:46 AM (21 days, 12 hours ago) |
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vandago said:
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Asante said: Vandago, work up a rage and throw that pack over the moon.
you are eating too much of your own bullshit.
you are not weak
you are not dependent
you are Grima Wormtongue-ing yourself.
Bite off the butt
spit it out
this is the day you have officially quit
there won't be a need for you to take a Renton toilet dive for a lighter for just one more hit.
You've quit.
that's it.
you get the chantix as a gratuitous partydrug.
no evil Gunney Sergeant Hartman is going to force you to smoke another cigarette.
you have quit.
now Quit!! in your mind and flush your fags and pull yourself up by the power of your determination.
you have built a mental construct that you must shove cigs up your windpipe. You don't have to, in fact its bad for you.
Chantix doesnt have to work, YOU have to work.
the elongated chantix molecule is going to be the last dick the helplessness industry has fucked you with.
when that next cigarette is not going to happen no matter what, the problem is solved, with or without chantix to hold your hand.
I am you, you are me, i know you can do this if you cut through the bullshit..
cut through the bullshit!
NOW.

I. Enjoy. Smoking.
if you believed in my rant more than in your own disempowering mantra, this would have beenyour first day off nicotine and chantix.
but do it your way, smoking a bit more if you quit your way is acceptable.
You are forced to suck the devils dick at pitchforkpoint tho. true enjoyment died after the honeymoon phase or you wouldnt put up with Chantix, a nicotinoid Demoness.
I don't care what you tell yourself, your life story you are writing here, i just hope you will quit it like i quit smoking, mxe, mdma, shrooms benzos and weed.
quit when you quit when you quit you're gonna quit!
at some point the madness of voluntary smoke inhalation has to stop.
I love you enough to press the issue kindly.
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28612608 - 01/07/24 05:30 AM (21 days, 9 hours ago) |
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
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vandago said:
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Asante said: Vandago, work up a rage and throw that pack over the moon.
you are eating too much of your own bullshit.
you are not weak
you are not dependent
you are Grima Wormtongue-ing yourself.
Bite off the butt
spit it out
this is the day you have officially quit
there won't be a need for you to take a Renton toilet dive for a lighter for just one more hit.
You've quit.
that's it.
you get the chantix as a gratuitous partydrug.
no evil Gunney Sergeant Hartman is going to force you to smoke another cigarette.
you have quit.
now Quit!! in your mind and flush your fags and pull yourself up by the power of your determination.
you have built a mental construct that you must shove cigs up your windpipe. You don't have to, in fact its bad for you.
Chantix doesnt have to work, YOU have to work.
the elongated chantix molecule is going to be the last dick the helplessness industry has fucked you with.
when that next cigarette is not going to happen no matter what, the problem is solved, with or without chantix to hold your hand.
I am you, you are me, i know you can do this if you cut through the bullshit..
cut through the bullshit!
NOW.

I. Enjoy. Smoking.
if you believed in my rant more than in your own disempowering mantra, this would have beenyour first day off nicotine and chantix.
but do it your way, smoking a bit more if you quit your way is acceptable.
You are forced to suck the devils dick at pitchforkpoint tho. true enjoyment died after the honeymoon phase or you wouldnt put up with Chantix, a nicotinoid Demoness.
I don't care what you tell yourself, your life story you are writing here, i just hope you will quit it like i quit smoking, mxe, mdma, shrooms benzos and weed.
quit when you quit when you quit you're gonna quit!
at some point the madness of voluntary smoke inhalation has to stop.
I love you enough to press the issue kindly.
Your overkill on linear response patterns can me a lot my friend.
If I was sitting with a carton in front of you, it would be valid. I appreciate the concern.
The route I’m taking is called a “quitting plan” which is on par for the course, despite me fighting the progress mentally.
Once I’m off cigarettes for a month I can freely smoke just one whenever the mood strikes. Usually like twice a week if that. The only reason I ever make it a habit, is legal problems. I have none of those, so it’s a matter of stopping the safest way possible.
I live with two people, and one’s a baby. I have no room in my life for nicotine fits, anxiety driven behavior, a snappy attitude etc. I chose this method specifically to keep my cool while I quit, and it’s works. I’ve gone from 35-40 cigarettes a day to 5-10. Smoking 40 cigarettes a day is an addiction that will cause some really unbalanced behavior. No time for that.
I have plenty of happy things to do. I smoke outside though, and I smoke while I work. It’s not a matter of saying “hey I can play this video game instead of smoke” it’s a matter of “I enjoy doing this to pass the time and reflect while I work”
Regardless, I’m down to buying 1 pack for 3 days. Next week I’ll be able to just not smoke without any side effects. Then I stop chantix 6 weeks later.
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Re: Chantix [Re: vandago]
#28613078 - 01/07/24 02:30 PM (21 days, 42 minutes ago) |
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vandago said: Once I’m off cigarettes for a month I can freely smoke just one whenever the mood strikes. Usually like twice a week if that. The only reason I ever make it a habit, is legal problems. I have none of those, so it’s a matter of stopping the safest way possible.
I live with two people, and one’s a baby. I have no room in my life for nicotine fits, anxiety driven behavior, a snappy attitude etc. I chose this method specifically to keep my cool while I quit, and it’s works. I’ve gone from 35-40 cigarettes a day to 5-10. Smoking 40 cigarettes a day is an addiction that will cause some really unbalanced behavior. No time for that.
I have plenty of happy things to do. I smoke outside though, and I smoke while I work. It’s not a matter of saying “hey I can play this video game instead of smoke” it’s a matter of “I enjoy doing this to pass the time and reflect while I work”
Regardless, I’m down to buying 1 pack for 3 days. Next week I’ll be able to just not smoke without any side effects. Then I stop chantix 6 weeks later.
Sure, you can smoke cigarettes after you quit and start all the way back at square zero of addiction, if you enjoy torturing yourself like that. I quit vaping cannabinoids three weeks ago. I have felt a huge wave of calmness/relief since then. I should have quit so much longer ago. Good job on reducing your usage.  You're almost there and free.
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Addiction only affects me during hard times.
I am currently only addicted to cigarettes, and at this point very mildly.
I still have a beer a couple times a month, that doesn’t make it an addiction.
I enjoy the act, the feeling, the ritual, etc. I just don’t enjoy doing it 20 times a day.
I’ve quit for 3 years, 2 years, and several times for a year straight. Of my 26 years of being an “active smoker” I’ve smoked less than ten of those years.
The only times I have ever turned it back into a habit is when I have to appear for court. Going forward if that day ever came again, I’d do that differently.
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vandago said: Addiction only affects me during hard times.
That's not how addiction works.
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vandago said: I am currently only addicted to cigarettes, and at this point very mildly.
Addiction is addiction.
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vandago said: I still have a beer a couple times a month, that doesn’t make it an addiction.
Okay? This thread is about your cigarette/nicotine addiction, not alcohol. I'm glad you don't have a problem with alcohol.
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vandago said: I enjoy the act, the feeling, the ritual, etc. I just don’t enjoy doing it 20 times a day.
I’ve quit for 3 years, 2 years, and several times for a year straight. Of my 26 years of being an “active smoker” I’ve smoked less than ten of those years.
The only times I have ever turned it back into a habit is when I have to appear for court. Going forward if that day ever came again, I’d do that differently.
If you've quit before then why do you need to do Chantix this time? You obviously want to quit, that's why you got on Chantix. So just quit. You need to find better alternatives for coping with stress, such as exercise, calling family/friends, cooking healthy food, playing video games, etc.
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Have you tried smoking to help you quit smoking? That didnt work? Man maybe if you tried one more time. Lol
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Quote:
lifeiswhatyoumake said:
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vandago said: Addiction only affects me during hard times.
That's not how addiction works.
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vandago said: I am currently only addicted to cigarettes, and at this point very mildly.
Addiction is addiction.
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vandago said: I still have a beer a couple times a month, that doesn’t make it an addiction.
Okay? This thread is about your cigarette/nicotine addiction, not alcohol. I'm glad you don't have a problem with alcohol.
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vandago said: I enjoy the act, the feeling, the ritual, etc. I just don’t enjoy doing it 20 times a day.
I’ve quit for 3 years, 2 years, and several times for a year straight. Of my 26 years of being an “active smoker” I’ve smoked less than ten of those years.
The only times I have ever turned it back into a habit is when I have to appear for court. Going forward if that day ever came again, I’d do that differently.
If you've quit before then why do you need to do Chantix this time? You obviously want to quit, that's why you got on Chantix. So just quit. You need to find better alternatives for coping with stress, such as exercise, calling family/friends, cooking healthy food, playing video games, etc.
I guess if you regurgitate crap, you hear and group session with a bunch of people who aren’t educated. Addiction comes into play when you have no management over a substance. Casually enjoying something is not an addiction. An addiction runs your life. I chose Chantix because I do not want to snap while cold, turkey quitting cigarettes. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about that. And it’s working. I was instructed to continue smoking through the procedure of taking this drug. I’m following doctors orders at all times in my life surprisingly it’s working. But thanks for your two. Cents.
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My mother was on it at one point. She was freaking out all the time with wild mood swings. My buddies dad was on it and he said he had super intrusive thoughts, like wanting to hit old ladies with his car when he was driving by them. I've always stayed away from it.
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vandago said: I guess if you regurgitate crap, you hear and group session with a bunch of people who aren’t educated.
What?
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vandago said: Addiction comes into play when you have no management over a substance. Casually enjoying something is not an addiction. An addiction runs your life. I chose Chantix because I do not want to snap while cold, turkey quitting cigarettes. I’m not sure what’s so hard to understand about that. And it’s working. I was instructed to continue smoking through the procedure of taking this drug. I’m following doctors orders at all times in my life surprisingly it’s working. But thanks for your two. Cents.
I'm assuming you're talking about cigarettes and not alcohol, which this thread is about. In saying that, here is my response:
You admitted you're addicted to cigarettes, yet seem to be alluding that you aren't addicted... yet you need to get on Chantix to not have a snap while cold turkey quitting? People without an addiction don't worry about snapping when they quit, that's pure addictive behavior. You're not making much sense, vandago. It's tough to see someone in denial like you are about a problem. I really hope you're not messing up your brain chemistry too much. You don't have to keep smoking while using Chantix just because the doctor said you can.
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Asante
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i don't want to lecture you on ascesis when I've been a complete rectal inject mxe bend over backwards drug whore myself.
I want you to quit in your way, and preferably in a grand epic way because like i said, its your life story, your glory year when you do quit.
its ok to postpone it a but as long as the quit is resolute and definitive to give you the greatest personal power victory.
Gandalf vs balrog, you have been on this for 26 years, like i have.
Not everybody gets divine intervention shit of God telling you no and literally making you a way out of the wilderness like happened with me, but yes, totally do it your way and to thye max.
but i see the underminings riddled in your words. i ould highlight in red indicators of flaws in your mental programming.
the brain is code. you program it all the time.
quitting an addition itself is as painless as memorizing a p[hone number, its the auxiliaries that hurt.
you have programs running like iantdoit.exe and itsstrongerthanme.exe. You need tio overwrite that, which too is paiunless, abnd spam yourself with it until the balance sways top not smoking. once you do that, c1uitting cigs is painless.
quitting nicotine is no worse than the common cold. what hurts are the ifs and buts you unwittingly put up to defend not quitting.
I rant at you like some kind of loving hitler because all my signs are pointing in one direction. My train out of love for you, full of dynamite, roars over the tracks with nothing holding it back.
willpower isnty the horsepower of your engine, its having cleared all obstacles, so you dash through the freshly fallen snow like a canadian snow plow train.
You have that strength also if you clear the rubble first. Do that first and the quitting is a nonevent.
This is loving thunder, not blame games but ranting meant to empower you, to run along with you to cheer you on your path in your life. your 26 year marathon.
Finish it.
this is my uncle Piet finishing a 10 mile run 75 years of age. hes in his 90s now.

you are getting the asante rante i never got in my darkest hours, but which was born out opf my darkest hopurs in hopes to help give you wings.
For you man <3
fcking this.
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28614123 - 01/08/24 01:41 PM (20 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Asante said: you are getting the asante rante i never got in my darkest hours
Your overall message to vandago is true, Asante. However, lots of people, myself included, gave you "the rant" during your darkest hours, multiple times even. So kindly don't paint all of us in a bad light as not having tried to help you...
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I deflected, Vandago deflects and that is a protective mechanism as part of the problem so i dont hold that against him one bit.
when in the sht yourself you have tunnel vision, we all do.
I intend these rants of motivational speaking as a zipline ride whih, if one one manages to take it at full velocity,l helps empower by overriding defenses, if one manages to.
resistance is high though cause i smack a 26min post on a 26 year problem.
There comes a point vandago quits. his point on his moment in time when he is ready. At that point he must dash with all his strength towards the finishline like a fast zombie to a kill, with zero energy invested in ifs and buts and everything into YES and MOREOVER.
100% Full Speed Ahead like Motörhead.

I want 2024 to be Vandago's Glory Year, but 100% on his terms so that he can say: "hey! i did that and kicked chantix to the curb in one go!"
your most difficult battle won is your greatest turbo boost for personal power.
I want that so bad for him, after 26 years of sucking cig.
Its not me being belligerent and intimidating, its me being a warhorse like "hop on my back and i'll run over trhe first battalions of Orcs and ride you to the heart of battle, where its all up to you."
Vandago is taking on the force of Darkness oppressing his life, nothing less than that.
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Edited by Asante (01/08/24 02:05 PM)
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28614143 - 01/08/24 02:02 PM (20 days, 1 hour ago) |
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28614304 - 01/08/24 05:19 PM (19 days, 21 hours ago) |
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Asante said: i don't want to lecture you on ascesis when I've been a complete rectal inject mxe bend over backwards drug whore myself.
I want you to quit in your way, and preferably in a grand epic way because like i said, its your life story, your glory year when you do quit.
its ok to postpone it a but as long as the quit is resolute and definitive to give you the greatest personal power victory.
Gandalf vs balrog, you have been on this for 26 years, like i have.
Not everybody gets divine intervention shit of God telling you no and literally making you a way out of the wilderness like happened with me, but yes, totally do it your way and to thye max.
but i see the underminings riddled in your words. i ould highlight in red indicators of flaws in your mental programming.
the brain is code. you program it all the time.
quitting an addition itself is as painless as memorizing a p[hone number, its the auxiliaries that hurt.
you have programs running like iantdoit.exe and itsstrongerthanme.exe. You need tio overwrite that, which too is paiunless, abnd spam yourself with it until the balance sways top not smoking. once you do that, c1uitting cigs is painless.
quitting nicotine is no worse than the common cold. what hurts are the ifs and buts you unwittingly put up to defend not quitting.
I rant at you like some kind of loving hitler because all my signs are pointing in one direction. My train out of love for you, full of dynamite, roars over the tracks with nothing holding it back.
willpower isnty the horsepower of your engine, its having cleared all obstacles, so you dash through the freshly fallen snow like a canadian snow plow train.
You have that strength also if you clear the rubble first. Do that first and the quitting is a nonevent.
This is loving thunder, not blame games but ranting meant to empower you, to run along with you to cheer you on your path in your life. your 26 year marathon.
Finish it.
this is my uncle Piet finishing a 10 mile run 75 years of age. hes in his 90s now.

you are getting the asante rante i never got in my darkest hours, but which was born out opf my darkest hopurs in hopes to help give you wings.
For you man <3
fcking this.
Despite the mxe boot start, I stuck around for your rant. I lost interest at gandolf.
For real the quitting isn’t going to be much of a problem. I would typically quit cold turkey and be a dick for a week. I don’t want to be a dick for a week. That’s really the only reason I’m taking chantix. I’m sacrificing nicotine fits for putrid nightmares. It’s a sacrifice. I don’t want to use this stuff. I just don’t have the means to take a vacation away from people right now. I don’t have the means to be impatient. This slow process relieves my loved ones of nicotine withdrawal. Other times I quit were usually amidst traveling.
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Re: Chantix [Re: vandago] 2
#28623215 - 01/16/24 09:57 AM (12 days, 5 hours ago) |
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I’m at 48 hours both no chantix, and no cigarettes.
I couldn’t take this broken sleep cycle and self cannibal dreams anymore. I was having some of the worst dreams, a lot that involved consuming my own flesh.
At a certain point the torture and the stench that cigarettes now provided were enough to just say fuck them both.
Going great. Haven’t even thought about one.
I hid a half a pack somewhere, and I can’t remember where. The thought process is that if I cave and go looking for them, by the time they’re found I will remember how stupid smoking one would be.
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you could set the pack on fire and watch from a distance as the carcinogens spread into the atmosphere. fun or just throw them away so you dont hurt yourself with them again.
Edited by huey.bluey (01/16/24 10:10 AM)
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