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Asante
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Smoking = going into withdrawal 2-3x an hour. total stressor.
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante] 1
#28602835 - 12/30/23 12:49 AM (29 days, 14 hours ago) |
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I think the major thing is getting your nicotine addiction down to a level where the act of quitting isn't as nearly as severe as if you quitting from smoking a pack a day or whatever. Once the physical addiction is broken then it just becomes the battle of the mind and building up various coping strategies. Remember cravings are like clouds in the sky sure they may pop up but eventually they will pass and one simply can choose to recognize them simpley as a craving and allow them to pass rather than giving into them. I alway say whenever I have a strong craving for something to simply just give it 5 minutes. In that time the anxiety or whatever you want to call it passes and often I've forgotten all about the craving and am occupied elsewhere.
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I’m not a nicotine advocate. It reduces my stress by giving me a go to distraction at all times. It also provides me a bit of stimulation and keeps me active. Then it gives me a different side of stress, slight snappiness, and the stimulation spews into fast talking a lot and I hate it. Too much.
I only smoked during legal battles and when I was ultimately defeated. A cigarette was like a bullet, but I had a little time to be sure if I wanted to take it or not, so to speak.
They’ve served a purpose in my life, and not only am I grateful for them, I’ll also enjoy one in the future here and there once it’s not a habit again. I’ve quit for years before.
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Yah idk dewd I've done alot of drugs and nicotine is alot like heroin in that ur constantly basically sick because ur either coming up or coming down off nicotine. Even if u have as much as u want for cheap it doesn't work. That's my whole thing especially since I don't smoke I'm just really addicted to vapong still. To me it's like I hate that it's always some issue or I'm always looking for my lost vape or have to like structure my life around getting/hitting vapes. It's crazy and nicotine isn't good for u come on. Like if I don't have my vape it's like I turn into a childish POS for no good reason other than my own selfishness. And like ur brain tries to do crazy tricks to get u to minimize it or make excuses but really it's all just dumb. Once u stop making excuses and letting the cravings hook u everyday it get easier. That's what I hate it's what I call the fiend. It's like the cravings and stuff the fact that my mind is occupied with dealing with fiending for this thing rather than cool stuff or things that help me or my family/friends. Like I could be learning or doing something cool but instead I'm thinking about getting a fix or looking for my vape in the couch. Could be cocaine heroin nicotine any them. It's not worth it to me 
In full disclosure I had been off nicotine a bunch of times for years and stuff but currently vaping again
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At least you’re not smoking cigarettes, chief.
I wouldn’t try chantix to save my life. They had a massive safety issue with it here in Australia years ago regarding suicidal and psychotic behaviour in those using it. Big side effects if you ask someone with a history of depression.
I vape. Those are now illegal here in Australia because, you know, “the children”. Guess I’ll have to go to the doctor for a prescription vape, so I don’t have to have violent dreams and decide to stab someone because I refuse to go back to death sticks.
My country is so backwards. Harm minimisation neber enters the legislative picture.
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I've been on Chantix for a spell it's very effective but highly psychotropic I could see how it has wierd side effects. Largely I personally found it to be really effective with quitting cigarettes where it made them very repulsive to me but I also remember alot of wierd stuff but I can't remember specifically as it was one the more mild side effect heavy mental drugs I was on in my life. Over all I saw it as pretty good but I could see how it makes people with less of a head kill themselves in some bizarre scenario so its like whatever
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Thinking back now my friends mom who used smoke like over 2 packs a day of light cigarettes got on Chantix and she didn't really have any apparent mental health stuff going on and like yah she quit smoking for a bit but then that shit fucked her up real quick and she like did suicide stuff out of the blue but it didn't work so she got off it and started smoking again
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Cigarettes and vaping and to a lesser extent the Nicorette inhalers is a totally different beast than patches and gum and lozenges and spray IMO
Cigarettes and vape were near impossible for me to give up, I swear it's a miracle I did
The inhalers were like that too for about a year, but now they feel more like the lozenges
I still take lozenges and inhaler almost daily, but if I go somewhere where I forgot to bring them, it's no big deal, I can go days without them and be barely bothered
If I went somewhere without cigarettes or vape, I went bat shit crazy, I'd be at the closest store to buy more, even if I had plenty at home
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Re: Chantix [Re: gopher]
#28605556 - 01/01/24 08:49 AM (27 days, 6 hours ago) |
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better quit now there is a window of opportunity to do so.
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28605564 - 01/01/24 08:58 AM (27 days, 6 hours ago) |
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I don't want to, I'm not at risk of smoking or vaping again I don't think, smoking is gross I get pissed when my mom smokes in the car, I can't even wear a expensive sweater I have that's hand wash only if I'm getting in the car with her
And vaping was a huge headache, it was better than smoking but having to keep batteries on charge 24/7 and whipping up nicotine juice weekly, and having to shell out money on atomisers all the time, was a giant drain on energy, not to mention the need to stealth vape in places where there was no vaping was crazy but I just didn't care
It's the act of inhaling was crazy, I tapered my juice down to no nicotine and I still NEEDED to vape 0 nicotine juice 24/7 I couldn't understand it
I heard in a movie once that injecting stuff is addictive, even if it's just water you will get hooked on it if you do it all the time
I think it's the same with smoking, the act is addictive in and of itself
I love nicotine, I hate smoking/vaping
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Re: Chantix [Re: gopher] 1
#28605569 - 01/01/24 09:04 AM (27 days, 6 hours ago) |
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Niotine did me no favors. Vasoonstriction, 90 bpm heartbeat, anxiety proneness, always jonesing for that next fix.
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28605576 - 01/01/24 09:13 AM (27 days, 6 hours ago) |
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I don't know if I got the first three, but I don't Jones for a hit that badly, like I do sometimes crave a inhaler hit, but it's not like craving a cigarette, I don't crave the mints at all, I only have 7 inhaler cartridges left anyways, I probably won't buy more, or at least not for a while because I spent too much money on door dash yesterday lol, so that will probably only last me a week or so, sometimes I use less than one a day
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Re: Chantix [Re: gopher]
#28606276 - 01/01/24 06:34 PM (26 days, 20 hours ago) |
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So you use 30 a month. Yeah not craving it mr krabs
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Chantix gave me wild dreams, it was like going to the movies every night when I got in bed. Stopped me smoking too, but not for long really, I got straight back on in a few months. Took me another 10 years or so to fully chuck that shit in.
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The dreams are so intense. I wake up every 20 min it seems.
All I need is a solid couple of weeks off smoking, with no stressers around me, and I’m solid. My life is just now becoming immensely less stress. Just the standard stress that everyone deals with, nothing I can’t handle at this point.
After over a month on the stuff, I’m not convinced it’s going to work for me. I’m down to under half a pack a day, but if my brain doesn’t accept they’re not a thing within the next few weeks, there’s no point continuing to torture my sleep.
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Re: Chantix [Re: vandago] 2
#28611682 - 01/06/24 12:18 PM (22 days, 2 hours ago) |
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Vandago, work up a rage and throw that pack over the moon.
you are eating too much of your own bullshit.
you are not weak
you are not dependent
you are Grima Wormtongue-ing yourself.
Bite off the butt
spit it out
this is the day you have officially quit
there won't be a need for you to take a Renton toilet dive for a lighter for just one more hit.
You've quit.
that's it.
you get the chantix as a gratuitous partydrug.
no evil Gunney Sergeant Hartman is going to force you to smoke another cigarette.
you have quit.
now Quit!! in your mind and flush your fags and pull yourself up by the power of your determination.
you have built a mental construct that you must shove cigs up your windpipe. You don't have to, in fact its bad for you.
Chantix doesnt have to work, YOU have to work.
the elongated chantix molecule is going to be the last dick the helplessness industry has fucked you with.
when that next cigarette is not going to happen no matter what, the problem is solved, with or without chantix to hold your hand.
I am you, you are me, i know you can do this if you cut through the bullshit..
cut through the bullshit!
NOW.
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Edited by Asante (01/06/24 12:27 PM)
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28611992 - 01/06/24 05:01 PM (21 days, 22 hours ago) |
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Yah nothings really gonna make quitting not be quitting but it definitely makes it easier. You still are gonna have to quit smoking tho but u realize later it's actually not as big a deal as you think it is when ur on the niq. For dream stuff as long as your not trying to get off cannabinoids just use the CBD knocks them right out. U have to use like way more then they tell people to use. There's also an African root that's good for it I'm pretty sure but I forget but the CBD/hop tonic will put you right out.
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28612091 - 01/06/24 06:29 PM (21 days, 20 hours ago) |
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Quote:
Asante said: Vandago, work up a rage and throw that pack over the moon.
you are eating too much of your own bullshit.
you are not weak
you are not dependent
you are Grima Wormtongue-ing yourself.
Bite off the butt
spit it out
this is the day you have officially quit
there won't be a need for you to take a Renton toilet dive for a lighter for just one more hit.
You've quit.
that's it.
you get the chantix as a gratuitous partydrug.
no evil Gunney Sergeant Hartman is going to force you to smoke another cigarette.
you have quit.
now Quit!! in your mind and flush your fags and pull yourself up by the power of your determination.
you have built a mental construct that you must shove cigs up your windpipe. You don't have to, in fact its bad for you.
Chantix doesnt have to work, YOU have to work.
the elongated chantix molecule is going to be the last dick the helplessness industry has fucked you with.
when that next cigarette is not going to happen no matter what, the problem is solved, with or without chantix to hold your hand.
I am you, you are me, i know you can do this if you cut through the bullshit..
cut through the bullshit!
NOW.

I. Enjoy. Smoking.
This is a sacrifice to my enjoyment, and my freedom.
I’m using the chantix for 3 months to finish enjoying them.
I’m afraid that I’ll still want to enjoy them.
It’s no weaker than any other vice.
If they didn’t stink and cause cancer I wouldn’t quit.
My goal is to provide myself an alternative smoking blend in the next two weeks. I may just go full cbd for joints. It seems the wisest. I think where I’m at , if I rolled a pack of cbd joints, they’d last me a week and I wouldn’t even think of smoking.
I appreciate the moral support. There’s a method to the way I’m quitting. I’ve quit cold turkey several times, but every time I’ve started again it seems as though they have added even more addictive quality to the cigarettes. This run baffles me as to why I haven’t been able to quit.
Life got on top of me, and the act of smoking is a consistent distraction compared to a more evil vice.
On a more strengthened note, I haven’t watched porn in 6 months +
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Asante
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Re: Chantix [Re: vandago] 3
#28612220 - 01/06/24 07:53 PM (21 days, 19 hours ago) |
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OK, do your thing, its your map, use your route to code yourself out of this tobaccovirus.
you can shoot 5 boxes of marlboro with a shotgun.
the cigarettes cannot return fire.
you got this!
UNJOY those cigarettes!
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Re: Chantix [Re: Asante]
#28612231 - 01/06/24 07:59 PM (21 days, 19 hours ago) |
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Cigs and tobacco is only hard to quit when you don’t have something else to keep you happy and happier than tobacco. I have smoked a ton of unfiltered cigs and unfiltered Rollie's (pack a day for years) then also vaping, hookah, pipe, and cigar. Recently I just got off years of smoking cigars daily. Nicotine is only hard to quit when I drink or use opiates. If I’m sober I never found it hard to stop even after smoking a ton for many many years. Sometimes it’s good to use nic gum to get off but honestly most of nic addiction is all in your head. Get it outa sight outa mind and enjoy life.
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