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I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough 5
#28565433 - 12/02/23 03:12 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Salvia replication: [url=I si=E-ZiLcfrCvrvo41Q]Inside the machine [/url]
Through psychedelic states, I have been Inside The Machine. I believe this machine or factory which I have portrayed in this video is perhaps of an objective nature. I speculate that hidden beings, whom share the planet with us have decorated the substratum of consciousness, a field of consciousness which all living things share. This "decorated substratum" can be thought as particular fractals of a collective field of consciousness which has been "decorated" with the likeness of these hidden beings.
Mankind has been reporting this same phenomenon for millennia. I’ve been to this factory dozens of times through experiments with salvia divinorum.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes]
#28565575 - 12/02/23 05:02 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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I usually have a more garden-like experience, but sometimes I see toys and sequences of things.
did you ever see something like this? https://player.vimeo.com/video/70470381
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freedomshapes
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: redgreenvines] 1
#28565591 - 12/02/23 05:14 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Yeah I know what you mean. I’ve definitely been to a sort of gnome / dwarf Pygmy village a bunch as well. I tried to capture it in this video I did a while back.[url= . si=qY0uff4KPzehkkFD] .
Edited by freedomshapes (12/02/23 05:15 PM)
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes]
#28565597 - 12/02/23 05:21 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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hahaha
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: redgreenvines]
#28565844 - 12/02/23 07:53 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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These are fantastic! You are capturing multiple aspects of the experience with these.The cartoonish, bright green lawns in a suburban neighborhood, and Fisher-Price characters
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: Blue Cthulhu] 1
#28565851 - 12/02/23 07:56 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Just to add to your metaphysical idea: I have observed something similar (or maybe exactly the same as what you are saying), which is that I've seen certain beings have woven themselves through the whole fabric of our reality, they've managed to holographically fractalize their essence into every part and particle of everything and every moment. Like an emblem.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
#28566125 - 12/02/23 11:39 PM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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Aw mate, that’s so f-ing cool! Well done
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes]
#28566285 - 12/03/23 06:26 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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That's what salvia is like?
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: loladoreen] 1
#28566401 - 12/03/23 08:11 AM (1 month, 25 days ago) |
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loladoreen said: That's what salvia is like?
Not for myself, though I can relate to becoming an industrial conveyor belt (or factories/machines) and the part at the end where one regenerates back into human form.
Personally I don’t get visuals -in the DMT sense- with Salvia.
It is more being than seeing for myself, and although I travel to strange places, might become various inanimate object’s, or I might kill myself or obliterate the entire universe, it all happens in a part of my mind that I don’t really understand or know how to describe. When I go back though, it’s all waiting for me as clear as crystal, and as if I have always been there!
It’s all so terrifyingly obvious when I go back!
It’s not like a dream and it’s not psychedelic metaphysical spaces/realities that I inhabit. It’s something completely unique like the Salvia molecule itself.
I’ve seen DMT art where I will think to myself well it’s not quite right but it’s uncannily reminiscent of hyperspace (or at least a general breakthrough dose)!
But with Salvia, I’ve never seen any art or animation that even reminds me of what Salvia is actually like. I’m at a loss to describe it to myself or even imagine what it’s like. I often get DMT flashes when I am hungover/anxious or when (say) I orgasm, where I momentarily comprehend the tryptamine realm with unusual clarity, but never with Salvia.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes]
#28566637 - 12/03/23 11:38 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Interesting
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: loladoreen]
#28566668 - 12/03/23 12:00 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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the beginning facial warping looks like a valid depiction of what i saw almost 20 yrs ago on 15xconcentrate
the "face" that then appears looks scary. didn't travel so far
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: epilectric]
#28566683 - 12/03/23 12:09 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Gr8 video
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28566868 - 12/03/23 02:49 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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The one time I went all in with salvia I was about 19-20 when you could buy the extract at headshops.
All I could see was card people. Kings queens and jacks all in line twisting and turning up and down “marching” in line pushing on me. At some point I got up and was going with them, but I finally stopped/against the wall because I had no idea where I was, why I was there, how I got there, no idea how to get out.
Didn’t realize what I was in for and never touched it again lol I would today it was too much then.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: Blue Cthulhu] 1
#28566905 - 12/03/23 03:15 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Yep exactly! and to me they resemble gnomes / Pygmies, sometimes ancient sometimes more modern appearance.
What’s interesting is that salvia has a long history of using it to communicate with short statutes humanoids. The entire mazatec region of Oaxaca was convinced they were surrounded by “dwarves” in caves and used salvia to communicate with them. Of course other psyches are also often attributed to the same phenomenon which is rich in shamanic folklore dating back to prehistory. I propose that some sort of short statured humanoid creature has been living among us and has developed a more accurate metaphysical framework which allows them to interact with the substrate of consciousness itself perhaps “decorating” it with their likeness. Like cave paintings on the walls of consciousness itself.
Or perhaps I’m descending into madness one can never tell when messing with this stuff.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes]
#28566981 - 12/03/23 04:03 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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for me salvia is like watching time fracture and objects in space repeat as if they mean it; there is a lot of mystery to why things seem like they do, and it is multidimensional so I would not be able to illustrate it: each frame of the movie goes off into the past and future at the same time. very densely active
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes] 1
#28567116 - 12/03/23 05:32 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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The gist seems clear enough, eccentric-laden, and definitely relatable when reminiscing - some parts more than others, but still. Not bad!  
I'd love to to be able to recreate some of what i've experienced with salvia (also for other psychedelics too).
Much of what I recall from my time with salvia borders on, if not sometimes well past being ineffable, lol.
That said - one or two of the somewhat more easily described occurrences or things experienced with salvia which would be interesting to see some day recreated by video and special efx might be something like the following exp:
At night, while walking down a sidewalk dimly lit by the street lights hanging above and interspersed every 10ish (give or take) meters or so, and, which went on like so in a relatively straight line for several miles (I was already familiar with the terrain beforehand so what happened was all the more fascinating) - I did not seem to be moving, despite my running faster and faster, ha!
It was almost like perhaps if the sidewalk itself, or the environment, space, or some mix of them - had taken on the characteristics of a working treadmill machine which automatically matched whatever pacing or speed that I ran at. I played with it for what seemed a mini eternity, and was completely starstruck for nearly the entirety of it.
At one point - while seemingly running 'forward' straight down the sidewalk I couldn't help but notice that instead - I somehow was going in reverse...as in, backwards, returning to where I had began. Like I had found myself in some place where classical physics had changed without my knowing it. Eventually I gave up, sat down, and called a friend to come and pick me up. 
Ahhh, my goodness... if there was a video camera capturing the event as it happened that I could obtain the footage from today I would do it, in part b/c the footage vs the experience of that night would probably make for some absurdly hilarious belly aching laughter.
Such a mind boggling & one of a kind experience was in no small part what led me to to experimenting with the leaf of S.D. more intimately on an almost weekly basis for an excellent couple of years. If nothing else, other exp's with it allowing stupendously visionary states and loads of roaring laughter had me sold it was as good as gold.
Salvia...Glorious, carnival-like ridiculousness but more than that, mind-bending in ways classical psychs can't quite evoke - just so interestingly unique, and, incredibly fun!
...until local laws were changed such that acquiring it became more and more trouble than it was worth. Oh well, glad I've known some of what it can do while I could. Good riddance. Bring it back! 
Still, Salvia rules - epically so.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: freedomshapes]
#28567627 - 12/03/23 10:35 PM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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freedomshapes said:. I propose that some sort of short statured humanoid creature has been living among us and has developed a more accurate metaphysical framework which allows them to interact with the substrate of consciousness itself perhaps “decorating” it with their likeness. Like cave paintings on the walls of consciousness itself.
Or perhaps I’m descending into madness one can never tell when messing with this stuff.
Elaborate on that one. I don’t quite see the picture though like what looking at.
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28567797 - 12/04/23 04:30 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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a few years ago I drew this empty bath tub sequence



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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: redgreenvines]
#28567851 - 12/04/23 06:36 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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is this something like an entity?
a friend of mine did salvia before trying serotonergic psychs... was sucked into the couch and stayed there for what seemed like an eternity
which scared him away from trying serotonergics too for a while
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: epilectric] 1
#28567922 - 12/04/23 07:56 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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a collection of salvia toy like characters
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: redgreenvines] 1
#28567945 - 12/04/23 08:19 AM (1 month, 24 days ago) |
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Salvia droids
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: epilectric] 1
#28567979 - 12/04/23 08:53 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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quite similar to mine, though in mine I have the external world blended with the animation, slightly lower dosage perhaps, hahaha
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Re: I made this salvia replication to show what it’s like (for me) to breakthrough [Re: epilectric] 2
#28567991 - 12/04/23 09:07 AM (1 month, 23 days ago) |
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epilectric said: Salvia droids
That's excellent! Not really what I see myself exactly but all the same themes are there! Carpet rolls of reality, conveyor belts, disassembly machines, the presence of something bigger and sinister turning the wheel etc. I also love how he's being pulled off the 3 dimensional couch into 2 dimensional nonsensical Savlia world and is like WHUUUHHH?
And no pleasure whatsoever lol!
That is brilliant!
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Edited by wolf8312 (12/04/23 09:27 AM)
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