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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot] 2
#28565018 - 12/02/23 09:49 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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I found the same with mine. The sub hardly moved.
That’s a great yield then, especially considering the power and quality of these things. If you’ve never tripped on them before you are in for a treat. My absolute favourite shrooms to trip on. Eat some fresh ones if you can!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere] 2
#28565038 - 12/02/23 10:08 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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My advice is to keep the dried fruits from each flush in labeled, separate bags.
I have a to-do here to label and test each flush I get because I have several different ones that aren't labeled, and I feel (subjectively) like the fruits differ in potency from one experience to the next. It would make sense of the precursors were used up in early flushes, but I don't have any data to show that.
Edit: to clarify I usually take 3g to make sure I hit where I'm aiming. 2g seems hit or miss, not sure if it's age of the fruits (2019ish, dried well).
2g for others has been "too much" but I must have less sensitivity.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: wavyedge]
#28565046 - 12/02/23 10:13 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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wavyedge said: My advice is to keep the dried fruits from each flush in labeled, separate bags.
I have a to-do here to label and test each flush I get because I have several different ones that aren't labeled, and I feel (subjectively) like the fruits differ in potency from one experience to the next. It would make sense of the precursors were used up in early flushes, but I don't have any data to show that.
Edit: to clarify I usually take 3g to make sure I hit where I'm aiming. 2g seems hit or miss, not sure if it's age of the fruits (2019ish, dried well).
2g for others has been "too much" but I must have less sensitivity.
I did 3/4G of the bell shaped cap ones a week or so ago and was as potent as 1.5g nats, Was a couple of aborts and a few that I picked just to get enough to try.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot]
#28565048 - 12/02/23 10:16 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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3-4g fresh?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere]
#28565050 - 12/02/23 10:17 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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3/4g or 0.75g dry not 3-4g
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot] 4
#28565064 - 12/02/23 10:30 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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Interesting! I had the strongest ego death I’ve ever experienced taking under 3 grams. Lights out.
Also interesting wavyedge that you say it depends on the person in your experience.

I have observed with mine that there seems to be a critical dosage where it turns from a sort of standard trip to an absolute rocket ride. This leads me to consider that perhaps whatever other compounds there are in these may have a higher active threshold dosage (reliant on the levels found in the tissues of the fruits) than psilocybin.
—- which would make sense to why they get stronger as they mature, as others have previously hypothesized, that these compounds are still being formed up until then, and that maybe different people may have innately different tolerances to these compounds
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere] 4
#28565097 - 12/02/23 10:58 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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For context, I don't take mushrooms "recreationally", I go for the peak experience, because I believe that's where I get the most stretch of my brain and benefit.
If they need to teach me a lesson, I want it to be thorough.
Actually I usually find the lower doses uncomfortable (same for DMT).
Edited by wavyedge (12/02/23 10:59 AM)
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot] 1
#28565158 - 12/02/23 11:43 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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RockinRobot said: Looks like I waited too long on these. They spooged everywhere. Was going to harvest the bell caps also but these 2 tubs filled up 8 trays in the dehydrator. S2B 10/24 38 days Took a few prints from these but Will get more from the Bell caps once they get picked



I love seeing more and more of this cool pheno
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: wavyedge] 5
#28565175 - 12/02/23 11:54 AM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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I can't believe you are all talking about higher than a gram doses.  But then I've only dealt with the older isolations so far. I do tend to let them get very mature as I'm almost always looking for spores from exotics. They will eventually take that sub down to the bare bones dirt if it stays clean that long. They can flush repetitively for well over a year. When mine have done this they've consumed around 90% of the substrate by the end. It's probably the most relentless species I've dealt with.
I checked out the pseudosclerotia jar last night. There's a spot in there that looks like it's going to mold so I'm cloning that puppy this weekend for sure. There's a few more now too. Almost as big but deeper in so I'm not messing with those. It would be pretty cool if this thing clones.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] 1
#28565244 - 12/02/23 12:55 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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the_chosen_one said:
They will eventually take that sub down to the bare bones dirt if it stays clean that long. They can flush repetitively for well over a year. When mine have done this they've consumed around 90% of the substrate by the end. It's probably the most relentless species I've dealt with.
That’s awesome. The one tub I’ve grown was flushing a few grams every few weeks after the first two bigger flushes so eventually I just tossed it cause I needed the space. The sub probably still had tons of energy left in it. It certainly looked that way.
I’ve got some new tubs on the way, testing out clone cultures. Just waiting for pins.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: Telomere] 2
#28565255 - 12/02/23 01:01 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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Pretty sure this is why I used to do so many cookie jars too. Things living for 18+ months is really cool. But not when it's clogging up the main grow area.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] 9
#28565432 - 12/02/23 03:11 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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Well These came from the flatter caps but they printed fairly well. Hopefully the Bell caps do as well.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot] 3
#28565484 - 12/02/23 03:54 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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thoughts on these cakes? pseudo sclerotia or metabolites? they seem to have dried out, I hope they finish. I worry most about the blueish spot under the jar lettering (that I thought I took a picture of.) its location makes ID difficult in person, let alone in a pic
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: tryptkaloids]
#28565547 - 12/02/23 04:36 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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Looks like a little of both. There seems to be a possible correlation as I usually see both in my grows as well. The pseudosclerotia are just beginning to form though. I hope it finishes too. Mine always start very late. I don't think I've seen it in an unfinished jar.
* definitely keep an eye on that blue. Tends to be an indicator of an approaching mold problem.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: the_chosen_one] 10
#28566288 - 12/03/23 06:30 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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Well Bell shaped caps flush is dry. 38G dry not including the caps I have trying to get prints. Very happy with my first grow of these. I have 6 more Shoeboxes S2B 11/27 that are almost colonized already. These are from the LC made from the spore plate that had the bell caps, so fingers crossed.

Edited by RockinRobot (12/03/23 06:38 AM)
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: RockinRobot] 1
#28566297 - 12/03/23 06:41 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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You rocking it, Robot!!
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: chris77]
#28566432 - 12/03/23 08:35 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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 This is the issue I’m having. The sub seems to stop colonizing, just barely leaving the grain, and then starts to knot. Should I just go back to spore?
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: EniQma]
#28566502 - 12/03/23 09:26 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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EniQma said:
 This is the issue I’m having. The sub seems to stop colonizing, just barely leaving the grain, and then starts to knot. Should I just go back to spore?
I've seen a few grows here where the surface is not fully colonized, but pins just fine so I don't know if it's a concern
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: EniQma]
#28566516 - 12/03/23 09:37 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
EniQma said:
 This is the issue I’m having. The sub seems to stop colonizing, just barely leaving the grain, and then starts to knot. Should I just go back to spore?
Send it.
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Re: Official Ps. Subtropicalis/Semperviva Thread [Re: wavyedge]
#28566532 - 12/03/23 09:49 AM (2 months, 13 days ago) |
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Agreed.
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