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Psilocybe makarorae
Psilocybe makarorae is related to subaeruginosa/cyanescens/allenii /azurescens but is currently on its own branch of the tree. It occurs naturally in New Zeeland on wood, specifically fruiting from fallen dead branches of southern beech trees. Thank you to TrustMycelium for sharing prints with others and I from fruits they had found. Now we can all have a chance to learn a little more, and hopefully multiply this shy little organism to make a mycelial blanket to cover the land mass in the northern latitudes. Seeing that is occurs on dead fallen branches I hope to find it to have the ability to occur in more natural settings across a wider habitat Vs. the subaeruginosa types which for the most part are dependent on human activity, like chipping and landscaping. P. makarorae iNaturalist
Its worth taking note that there was some recent confusion between Psilocybe makarorae and angulospora. Many of the photos that pop up when you google, and even the photos on this shroomery makarorae page are pics of angulospora. Psilocybe angulospora is in a different section of the phylogenetic tree. here is Inski's angulospora grow, which at the time it looks like it was believed to be makaroae. I am almost certain now that because I wrote that down when I send tissue of these to get sequenced Ill have to edit makaroae out of this post, cause the ITS isn't going to match. As far as I know everything matches up I didnt take the best notes this first time around, I didnt take very good pics until later, but i will try my best to share the hard details, important or not, with you all. The biggest reason I had not taken good pics earlier is because the mycelium on agar, grain, and wood substrates in vitro is not very photogenic. It is slow in vitro, These details sound universal with the other people who got prints, and cultivated them. Ill take notes this time around so that we have them.
Inoculation on 5/25/22, pic taken June 11th, If I remember right the print was sparse, so it looks like very little germination points. But it only takes a little.

A T3 plate transfered to on 11/13/22. pic taken 8/1/23. Ive never seen another wood lover look anything like that. Note that i was only 3 transfers away from inoculation day, May 25th.

A pic of it in the ground on 2/4/23. The whole reason I don't have any good visuals to share of this in vitro is because it was never photogenic. It was just slow, and weak looking. I did more tossing substrates out because I had to evaluate what I was going to focus on, vigorous productive fungi, my family, or this slow weak looking thing with no path to follow to cultivate it. You can see why it took a back seat. I did more tossing here and there just to make room for other stuff. But then here in the ground it looks very healthy, and its like the cyanecsens subaeruginosa types, but it still has its own look. This is either a bag or shoebox of alder pellets and potting soil that was inoculated with grain, just stomped into a little trench with some chip pile chips tossed on top.
 The hanging basket would have been made up of woodchips, and potting soil, and I don't remember if I spawned it with grain, or with a block or shoebox of alder pellet and potting soil, but thats the base. I must have made it late summer, or fall 2022. Pins were observed 11/15/23


Some kind of Coprinus type of thing growing with makarorae
The most mature fruits lost the damp look after being frozen, I know there's a better word for the characteristic.  For the most part i just spawned the hanging basket and walked away for 12 months. I looked at it once and awhile and it was alive. I left it hang outside all winter and summer. From freezing in the cold, to the heat and sun of the summer. Our winters are cold and wet, it gets into freezing but rarely stays frozen all day. Summer conditions are hot and very dry, days were reaching over 105f/40c. I let it stay relatively dry through the summer. Once it started getting cooler I set it on the ground and started watering it around the end of September, early October, just around the time of year a jacket makes it a lot nicer to be outside, and you start thinking about firewood, or propane or whatever you heat your home with. It would get a lot of worms and roley polies, which for some reason bothered me, so I started hanging in in the greenhouse where it stays pretty humid and cool. Temps had been been steady between 32-60f/0-15c for many weeks. The first pins showed on the side that was facing south, it is a little shaded from an oak tree to the south and the panels are shaded and dirty so it wasn't blaring sun, but it seems significant, id think the temp would fluctuate more on that side. We had temps drop to 20f/-6c and I let it freeze two nights in a row. The fruits froze solid and thawed back out. Yeah, I was scared as shit that it would kill them and turn them to mush, but I really wanted to find data on their tolerance. I ran a heater after that as I would have felt terrible it Id lost the opportunity to share with others just to know how long they can get frozen for before they die. They can freeze just fine, I doubt it does them any good. They slowed to a stand still during the cold snap that was about a week. The first day above freezing there was noticeable growth. This is still a work in progress, i did look at a gill fragment under the scope and did see spores, but I feel there is more maturing for them as of today, 12/1/23.
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Re: Psilocybe makarorae cultivation [Re: Land Trout]
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Re: Psilocybe makarorae cultivation [Re: thirdeyewild] 1
#28564089 - 12/01/23 05:35 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Great post! You kill it with these woodlovers.
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#28564102 - 12/01/23 05:38 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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They kill me too Went through a lot of plates in storage a little bit ago and came across some t2s and germ plates. Pics coming soon.
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Re: Psilocybe makarorae cultivation [Re: Land Trout]
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Awesome work LT
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So fucking cool. Thank you!
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They're so beautiful!
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Nice work Land Trout. I recently revived some cultures of this species from slants that were in the fridge for six years, three out of the four isolates are still viable and are now looking really good in liquid cultures.
I wonder how your phenotype compares to the macroscopic characteristics of the wild collection your genetics came from originally, they look a bit different to my collections.
This is one of the wild collections I made for comparison.
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#28564204 - 12/01/23 06:38 PM (1 month, 26 days ago) |
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Thank you Inski, I half thought of asking you to do some wditing for this post, but I figured I would simplify it for now. It would be neat to compare, such a cool mushroom tucked away in a small part of the planet. Did I communicate the confusion between makarorae and angulospora accurately and clearly? Hopefully trustmycelium logs back on when your season comes around down there. I’m pretty sure these came from Dunedin.
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Great job LT, those are beautiful!
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Yeah this is pretty damn cool. Nicely done!
Nice to see an inski post too. I remember you used to tell me I should post more. Seems kind of the other way now.
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Amazing dude
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Do they get you high?? Is it different from cubes?
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 That one T3 looked wild AF
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I mean…is that…a yes? Stronger etc? Different like nats?
I understand it’s a dumb as fuck question but I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone post this here. And no I will not be using the search function
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Screwup said: I mean…is that…a yes? Stronger etc? Different like nats?
I understand it’s a dumb as fuck question but I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone post this here. And no I will not be using the search function 
I, for one, wasn't sure if you were trolling... 
Yeah these are quite potent, same family as ps cyans and Azures.
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In 2005Quote:
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They are about as potent as subaeruginosa, a usual dose would be 4-8 shrooms, but the trip of them is much nicer than the subs. I don't even hunt for subs anymore I find them too unpredictible and they seem to have a lot of stomach and muscular discomfort associated with them, well moreso than scemilanceata and makarorae and cubes anyway.
From this thread At the end they mention their find may not be makarorae Who really knows what mushrooms are anyway🤣
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Cool thanks guys.
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Very cool Landtrout!! 👏
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 I took tissue to agar on 11/24 and made sure to get a quick transfer from this plate tonite. This is the only one out of five that didn’t get over ran with bacteria. That’s not uncommon with outdoor fruits. The agar surface is rough from being too cool during the pour.
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Me too agar, me too.
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 I took tissue to agar on 11/24 and made sure to get a quick transfer from this plate tonite. This is the only one out of five that didn’t get over ran with bacteria. That’s not uncommon with outdoor fruits. The agar surface is rough from being too cool during the pour.
I'm pretty excited to see where this goes! You're doing a great job fruiting them and I'm curious what different phenotypes will show up in different environments and with different genetic selections.
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Someone gave me some woodchips labeled aff. Makarorae a year ago but my noob-ass couldn't get them to take.
Stunning work with them, I'm excited to see how those other attempts pan out. It'd be awesome to have a shiitake-style log of them that could be moved around.
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The hanging basket is a great idea - especially if hung in the drip line of a roof! Nice supply of rain water, good drainage, lots of FAE, away from ground based pests, and that fiber creates a great micro climate for primordia formation!
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I've been wanting to get into woodlovers over the winter and get some spots ready for the spring, would you suggest starting with a more commonly cultivated species, or were these forgiving?
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There not so much hard to handle, they’ve been pretty forgiving. But they try the patience, like all the temperate woodlovers do, but these ones are different. The myc was always just so weak until it got into something that made it look alive, I killed a lot of other attempts. I want to say it wouldn’t be the best one to cut your teeth with, I’d start with the cyanescens/subaeruginosas. But once these get out in other people’s hands and heads may be we’ll find they’re easier than I think.
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Re: Psilocybe makarorae cultivation [Re: Land Trout]
#28583572 - 12/15/23 07:37 AM (1 month, 13 days ago) |
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Really cool project Land Trout! And yeah the petri mycelium is pretty wild looking.
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Very excited to say, spores went to plate today. Thanks Trout!
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Quick update. 12/23/23 Thank you to all who reached out asking for prints, I wish you all success! After the last harvest I made another round of prints that came out a lot thicker. Big apologies for not labeling them, for some reason there’s still this dumb lingering paranoia that supports laziness, and after those all got sent out I really wish I’d have at least taken the time to write maka and the date, so they will going forward. If anyone has difficulty getting germination I’ll be happy to send another print. I’ve never had much problems getting any of the cyans to print just bringing them inside and printing at room temp for 20 hours or so. But with the makarorae I printed them outside in a tote that got sun the second time. Don’t know if the low temp or fluctuating temps did it, but they printed a lot better. Still, it doesn’t take much to get things going. I know I have some more to send out, I will get to them soon. Here’s some grain I knocked up on the 12/2/23, the plate that I knocked them with was labeled 10/1/22 so the plate was over a year old. I did some subaeruginosa from old plates that same night and they are about 75% the makarorae is maybe at 25%. Using old plates is not the method, would have used new ones if I had them, but it’s good for us to see people using old stuff and see it working.
  You may notice sawdust mixed in the grain, that also has nothing to do with methods, just an old farmers trick to dry the grain up a little faster, but it makes for a shitty mess and takes up more time cleaning them on the other end. I do not encourage anyone to mix sawdust with they’re grain, especially in jars, and that I use it has nothing to do with growing woodlovers, just an impatience thing that cost more time in the long run. Some plates from 12/2/23. the clone is on the right, and looks so much more robust than the culture from spores. But slow   Printed outside  Printed inside
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With azure I put caps to print outside in Tupperware or in garage subject to same temp humidity outside. They can sit 3 days and make very thick prints
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Re: Psilocybe makarorae cultivation [Re: rhizoRider] 1
#28595363 - 12/23/23 02:31 PM (1 month, 4 days ago) |
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Juuuust swiped a few barf pucks. Can't be waiting around for the Zon to drop off my agar
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 I ran psilo q tests at .07g. Came out really dark. The tests are old, I don’t know if that makes a difference, I expect them to be pretty strong. Tomorrow might be the day!
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Do you know if anybody has tried storing fresh harvested shrooms in the freezer?
If they can freeze and not die I wonder how long they’d stay preserved frozen indefinitely while fresh.
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Hell yeah trout this is awesome! I may have to bug ya for one of those prints…
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Works but comes out a mucky mess when thawed. Back in junior high we'd pick libs and store them for a few months that way easily. Watched a guy chaw down a half ounce once. His first trip and his choice. The rest of us made slimy cocoa lol. So we sit down and start watching Excalibur on HBO . A movie that only makes sense while tripping ballz. They're hitting pretty hard and dude lays down and starts rolling on the floor. We're like you ok man? He says yeah feels good. We're like cool.. I guess lol. He just keeps rolling around laughing. A few minutes later he takes off his shirt saying it's hot. We're like yeah man you need to settle down. He looks at us like he's just realizing we're there and takes off out the front door stripping his clothes off. We catch him a few blocks down the road pants around his ankles and drag his ass back. Can't believe the cops never showed up. We were skipping school while my buddies parents were on vacation. After that he plants his ass right in front of the tv. We look at each other like noooo. We all jumped him at the same time as he tries to climb into the tv. What a day. 
Oh yeah. Going on agar tomorrow lol. Thanks again LT!
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It's really great to see you guys working with this species, I have three different isolates from multispore germinations in LC ready to go, I think I'll try small containers of hardwood fuel pellets maybe supplemented and when colonised use them as spawn for some grow bags, my idea was to use LC to inoculate something other than grain for spawn so that when it eventually goes outdoors there will be no grain to attract pests.
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@landtrout sheeesh I didn’t think they’re going to be that potent! Light print or not, label and date or not, we love you! 😄
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Looking forward to seeing how that goes Inski. I am really excited to see what other minds will come up with.
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Still unpacking my bags from taking 3 grams on the 24th. Words cannot explain, they really shook up my reality and all the details and language that comes to mind to convey the experience to you just passes as words and numbers seem so insignificant in comparison to the reality of what Happened. They took me somewhere I have never been. Love is the building block of life. We are nothing. Those little fuckers are strong as hell. I am alive, and I love my family. You are all precious to me.
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Holy shit. How long until you peaked and how long did it last for?
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Sounds like my first Cyanescens experience at an 8th. Much love trout. Thank you for your contribution.
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 Still throwing out a couple.
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Those are beauties Trout! What is the temp range in you greenhouse?
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These have been outside for a bit, thought it was a little too stuffy in the greenhouse. Temps have been just above freezing and upper 50s.
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I’m pretty sure I’m getting prints out in the mail to everyone who’s asked, I have more! If you haven’t received anything in a week or so drop me a line, also, if you get too much mold or bacteria or no germination I’m happpy to send another, I really want you to have success, and see what these things can do out there.
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  They keep going and going, but very slow. It’s been pretty cold and wet. There are no signs of any cyanescens, allenii, subaeruginosa, or azurescens pinning around the yard, so there’s another trait that’s setting these further apart from its cousins. Everyone who’s asked should have their prints by now, so if you haven’t got anything reach out, and just send a privnote or whatever with an address. If you’ve streaked and haven’t seen anything let me know also. Sounds like they’re germinating pretty fast for most folks, I haven’t streaked new plates yet. Been busy but things are moving along. But now, let’s see some plates, I’d really like to see how things are going for everyone.
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My first round bac'd out. The second had mold. Going for another round this weekend. We'll get it yet.
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Are they continuously fruiting a few at a time or coming in flushes?
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AKA, seems more like flushes, we had pretty dry weather after the first fruits, which was kind of like two close flushes, then It rained again, and it’s flushing again. But it’s definitely been very cold, pretty much the only wild mushrooms I’m finding in my area are Galerina. I’m thinking these could be easier to fruit than the subaeruginosas….. maybe, mushrooms tend to prove me wrong when I have an idea about them.
Inski, does that add up to your observations of them in the wild? Do you know if the Dunedin area, and Makarorae drainage get real cold? I’m looking forward to watching New Zealand’s season so much more now.
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Land Trout said: Inski, does that add up to your observations of them in the wild? Do you know if the Dunedin area, and Makarorae drainage get real cold? I’m looking forward to watching New Zealand’s season so much more now.
Hey Land Trout, they look beautiful and yes that sounds about right, in the wild they fruit from fairly rotted small sticks and twigs from southern beech trees and unusually, never or only very rarely in habitats disturbed by humans like other species from Section Cyanescens, this species is definitely a cold lover and can be found fruiting in temperatures just above freezing.
I have had only very limited success with these what I call long season wood lovers and have not successfully fruited this species yet but I'm working on it now and hopefully when it starts getting cold we'll see some action.
Again, they look beautiful, have you cloned any of the fruit bodies?
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 Can not tell you how excited I am to have these going! Gonna toss some pasteurized compost/sawdust in my germ dishes to see if I can sneak a little expansion material for substrate introduction while also doing the whole formal bit via agar>spawn>sub.
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A point in the first post makes me curious in several ways: is it good to move mushrooms from country to country? Could there be any downside? Or specific upside?
I've taken some spent cakes and gnarly fruiting bodies and tossed them in my yard and woodchip piles, and haven't seen anything grow out of them. I don't know if its that easy, or more work needs to be done, but interesting things to think about...
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I've taken some spent cakes and gnarly fruiting bodies and tossed them in my yard and woodchip piles, and haven't seen anything grow out of them. I don't know if its that easy, or more work needs to be done, but interesting things to think about...
Personally I have a dream of psilocybe growing out of everh tuft of grass breaking through every crack in the concrete. If some insect species gets threatened by psychedelic mushrooms growing everywhere I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.
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I have a dream of them colonizing the detritus and algae growing through the cracks in the concrete of the dams, and their enzymes dissolving the minerals so the dams collapse and the rivers being free again. Psilocybes have already been moved around the globe by humans, cyanescens, cubensis, and semilanceata are good examples. Fungi are on every ship, airplane, log truck, chip van, and plant that gets moved from one part of the world to another. This one’s just been tucked away and doesn’t seem to have the same relationship with humans activities as some of the other Psilocybes have with forestry, landscaping, and cattle.
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A clone and a culture from spore. transfered on 12/2/23. The non clone culture was taken from a plate that was very old, and the myc looks like they did when they were young, the clone looks very robust compared, but it is slower.
 subaeruginosa crosses(see my journal) on the left makarorae on right on sterile woody substrate inoculated a few days ago. The makarorae is barely visible, well behind in colonization.
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Have you tried putting stem butts to chips Land Trout? It would be interesting to see if works as well as it does with cyans etc.
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Might need one more transfer but getting close!
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They seem to be a tough as blewits and those dark entaloma thingies. They were frozen solid for days. I just left them outside the whole time to see if it would kill them, but many of the fruits bounced right back and look amazing!
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Hardy little fuckers. I just got my MEA powder last night. Gonna take these to pasty plates when my mini rounds come.
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These shud be put in every northern state if loving cold that much
I think they seem tougher than azzies that's just wild I would've guessed they like warm Temps
U shud make a warm climate pot and see if they look much different
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They’ve been cooped up on the Island for too long. I look forward to seeing “occurs exclusively in New Zeeland” being removed from the discription. I am getting prints out in the mail today, I know there are a couple folks waiting, please feel free to gently harass me if you feel like I’ve missed you.
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Excellent info Land Trout! They seem to be as tough as nails when it comes to the cold, might be on par or better than the other traditional wood lovers.
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How large are your fruits of these trout? Are they small and dry down much? Or similar to other WL u play with
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You know I haven’t ever done a comparison where I’ve weighed any of them before and after drying, so I can’t say much about that, but by the eyeball they seem about the same like 90% water. I’ve pulled a total of 12 grams of fruit dried, so it’s not like they’re big producers at this point, but for the durability, and I like to have hanging baskets with petunias and fuschia anyway these seem to fit nicely into my life. I do wonder if they will do better same or worse with being watered through the summer. I have to find the right balance of moisture here during the summer and I find my outdoor patches can do very well if they get very dry like this basket did. If they’re too damp when it’s hot there can be problems with other organisms. They might prefer dryer than a plant would like. The big problem is, no one knows🤣 which is also the fun part.
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I agree to the dryer theory u state bro I've had dry yrs but a good wk rain produce best azure. Too wet I'm waiting but it's not productive. These just seem to find niche and flourish in their own rights. I swear my approach is ghetto teks because I aim for stronger than sterile mycelium I want shit tough as nails.
I found a 3 or more yr old dry PC of wood with mycelium from my old ovoid culture I might try n revive for fun. It's like a mummified white chip with strings and mud and I bet it wud grow. It's purpose is to grow and decompose I think we often overdo the things they need.
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Pleased to report I have several germinations!
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Re: Psilocybe makarorae cultivation [Re: thirdeyewild]
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Mine is looking good and will go to lc very soon.
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